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I thought what they did with Ehrlich was weird as poo poo, and i just found out tj miller was exiting. I don't read this thread often and i don't follow hollywood/show news with a couple exceptions so i'm surprised and unhappy. I like TJ Miller a lot, and the show will be less without him. Really didn't like this season's narrative as much as the previous ones, but the jokes were still funny. Watching Richard being played as a way bigger shithead than in previous seasons kind of hosed up the general vibe of the show that I liked. I don't really want to see a vile shithead succeed against slightly different kinds of vile shithead while dragging down a bunch of overly loyal nerds with him. I mean yeah that's literally what silicon valley is in real life, but i'm not as much into watching that. I'll see where S5 goes still but I hope they unceremoniously drop a lot of the character changes and plot conceits of this season.
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basic hitler posted:Really didn't like this season's narrative as much as the previous ones, but the jokes were still funny. I hated the narrative, and now with TJ Miller gone I probably won't bother with the next season, but seeing Richard arm Dinesh with the mobile pineapple was the hardest I laughed with ANYTHING for years.
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I think Jared is the most likable character on the show by far and the writers amping up Richard's rear end in a top hat tendencies is hard to deal with. Jared's struggle and whole resignation subplot was pretty emotionally resonant to me. If the show is never able to get past the whole rubberbanding between disasters and miracles to do something more coherent, it's just going to amount to a collection of amusing gags and references. Which has some merit, but falls pretty short of the potential.
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Sci Fi movie Man Vs on Netflix stars Russ Hanneman as a Les Stroud type survival tv guy going up against an alien or something in the woods.
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Pharmaskittle posted:Sci Fi movie Man Vs on Netflix stars Russ Hanneman as a Les Stroud type survival tv guy going up against an alien or something in the woods. If that was in character as Russ it'd be a must watch.
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I still can't decide if I like TJ miller or even find him funny, but I finally read the THR interview, and it seems very clear Miller is aware that this move is a terrible career decision, but acknowledges mediocre voiceover work will pay the bills while giving more time and creative options for his own projects. The Yogi Bear quote very much reads as tongue in cheek.quote:I'm me, the guy that thinks all of this is sort of ridiculous. It was a joke. Leaving was a joke that I thought would be a good joke because the show would grow and change. It seemed like a funny trick to play on everyone. It's just like, what if Kramer [Michael Richards] left in the middle of Seinfeld's height? And also what if that guy never said the N-word on a stage? What if that was the end of this character? I just thought that would be really fascinating. quote:That's what America is. There is failure, but we pivot. My departure will do the same. Instead of dying, like everybody in my family would love, I go and make The Emoji Movie. It's worse for American culture.. quote:Some people are like, "Ah, I guess he's got too much going on, he's too big for the show." What are you talking about? It's, like, the best show on television, in my opinion, and I'm going and doing The Emoji Movie — and you can publish that because Sony knows we down to get motherf—ing paid globally. quote:Websites like TV Overmind or something, and they're putting forth very reasonable, well-written logic for why this is so dumb and the only thing I'll ever be good at was this part in Silicon Valley. Yet none of them have seen Yogi Bear 3D, so they're all talking and chit-chattering and squawk, squawk, squawk — but none of them have seen Yogi Bear 3D. So they don't know that I've already done the best thing that I'll ever do. And because of that, there is no fear about any move in Hollywood for me. I'm just on the downslope. This is all a downward spiral, career-wise.
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Jul 11, 2017 17:15
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The Yogi Bear 3D self-deprecation thing has literally been a part of both TJ Miller's stand-up material and a regular throwaway line of his on talk shows for about 5 years now.
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Jul 11, 2017 18:13
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probably the worst thing about this season was propping up gavin as having any positive attributes. are we really supposed to believe he would have negotiated conjoined guy out of the hostage situation as opposed to being immediately taken hostage too the moment he tried to bring a macaque onto the factory floor to illustrate a metaphor about the dangers of individuality
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Jul 11, 2017 18:48
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Gavin's always been able to "solve" problems by throwing money at them. I'm sure he just did the same thing here.
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Jul 11, 2017 18:50
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I'm just pleasantly surprised that the China scenes weren't too racist.
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Jul 11, 2017 19:00
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What part of them was racist at all? China exists. Factories exist. They make tech products. Is any of that problematic for you?
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God Hole posted:The Yogi Bear 3D self-deprecation thing has literally been a part of both TJ Miller's stand-up material and a regular throwaway line of his on talk shows for about 5 years now. Ah, ok- I haven't seen his stand up special yet. It just seemed like there were some posts taking that Yogi Bear quote at face value.
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Jul 11, 2017 19:59
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I'm not sure why anyone would expect this show to be racist, either.
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Jul 11, 2017 20:00
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I guess if you were looking for something to call a stereotype, the opium den maybe?
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Jul 11, 2017 20:09
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Fine, pretend I didn't say "too".Snak posted:I'm not sure why anyone would expect this show to be racist, either. Silicon Valley techbros tend to be terrible to anything Chinese. e: vvv but he or his writers can easily pick up and reflect it, like they have everything else in SV. Whiz Palace fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Jul 11, 2017 20:12
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You realize that Mike Judge is not a Silicon Valley Techbro...
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Jul 11, 2017 20:13
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Um pretty sure he dabbled in it back in the day.
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Jul 11, 2017 20:53
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I mean, fair, but late 80s, early 90s SV isn't quite the same as the modern climate which I thought was being alluded to by "Techbro".
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Jul 11, 2017 21:13
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This Jian Yang character is highly problematic...
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Jul 11, 2017 23:55
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I liked how Judge handled the "but there's no female lead character!" criticism from Season 1 by introducing a female lead character in Season 2, getting a bunch of positive "Silicon Valley is no longer problematic" stories from a news cycle, and then 2 weeks later writing off the character completely
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Jul 12, 2017 03:16
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I don't get why this thread is still obsessed with straw men haters of this show.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:59
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EugeneJ posted:I liked how Judge handled the "but there's no female lead character!" criticism from Season 1 by introducing a female lead character in Season 2, getting a bunch of positive "Silicon Valley is no longer problematic" stories from a news cycle, and then 2 weeks later writing off the character completely Ahh yes, that news cycle. I remember it well.
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I like this because it pokes fun at Silicon Valley culture and has funny characters and situations. Like... a lot of weird positive responses as if this show's humor comes at the expense of women or asians. I don't see it. Like what show are you guys watching?
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whalesteak posted:I still can't decide if I like TJ miller or even find him funny, but I finally read the THR interview, and it seems very clear Miller is aware that this move is a terrible career decision, but acknowledges mediocre voiceover work will pay the bills while giving more time and creative options for his own projects. The Yogi Bear quote very much reads as tongue in cheek. TJ Miller generally seems to operate/base his comedy on a pretty ego-forward brand of nihilism, where things like Yogi Bear 3D being one of his biggest paydays translates into "if this is considered valuable and important, then clearly nothing matters". On top of that he also had an undiagnosed brain hemorrhage with a high mortality rate during that period, which might have also messed with him a bit. In general I'd agree that if I hadn't happened to see a headline that TJ Miller was leaving, his progression toward exiting the storyline would have been hard when mixed with Richard's self-inflicted downfall.
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Jul 12, 2017 12:55
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Mike Judge has a history of being racist in his shows King of the Hill's neighbors were Asian stereotypes (and they never even said whether they were Chinese or Japanese)
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Mike Judge has a history of being racist in his shows You're joking right? I only ask because it's so badly done I thought there was a chance you were being serious.
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Jul 13, 2017 17:26
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Mike Judge has a history of being racist in his shows They were from Laos, stupid. It's a landlocked country in South-East Asia.
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Jul 13, 2017 17:52
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If you've seen Idiocracy you can tell he is also racist against poors and sports drinks
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Jul 13, 2017 18:03
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One of the main characters of King of the Hill butchers the Spanish language as a joke. Racist af.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:04
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Mike Judge has a history of being racist in his shows You're supposed to source your quotes.
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You're from what ocean?
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It's worth it to say that TJ Miller is not exactly playing with a full deck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf9N5AWprG8
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Jul 13, 2017 19:42
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Snak posted:One of the main characters of King of the Hill butchers the Spanish language as a joke. Racist af. Sounds like a bad hombre. What did the Spanish do to him?
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Mike Judge has a history of being racist in his shows I know this is a troll and all but goddamnit this is so wrong it still makes me angry. So... god job? I guess?
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Jul 13, 2017 20:20
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Mike Judge has a history of being racist in his shows He's Laotian.
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Snak posted:One of the main characters of King of the Hill butchers the Spanish language as a joke. Racist af. a joke about how terrible she is
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Paladinus posted:They were from Laos, stupid. It's a landlocked country in South-East Asia. yeah but are they Chinese or Japanese
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bring back old gbs posted:*squints* This right here is exactly the kind of racism we're talking about.
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Snak posted:This right here is exactly the kind of racism we're talking about. I didn't say naturally.
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