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surprising how much software queries the os for the correct way to localize numbers, and then proceed to interpret them incorrectly themselves excel csv import is especially maddening, i don't think i've ever seen a csv actually localized to use commas as decimal marks, except possibly as exported from excel
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Jul 17, 2017 19:43
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EUgh
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Jul 17, 2017 19:56
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mate
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Jul 17, 2017 20:21
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$1.000,00 dollary-doos
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Jul 17, 2017 20:22
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pram posted:$1.000,00 dollary-doos an un-deece six figgys
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Jul 17, 2017 20:49
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wasn't there some dude that wanted to screw around with this functionality in a .NET lib at some point and got really mad about people crushing his dreams when they told him it was a dumb idea
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Jul 17, 2017 20:50
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OldAlias posted:EUgh
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Jul 18, 2017 01:32
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emoji posted:lol
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Jul 18, 2017 02:26
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its poo poo op
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Jul 18, 2017 02:34
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lancemantis posted:wasn't there some dude that wanted to screw around with this functionality in a .NET lib at some point and got really mad about people crushing his dreams when they told him it was a dumb idea almost certainly, .net people have dumb ideas as a rule
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Jul 18, 2017 02:37
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SAP uses the decimal as a comma out-of-the-box, about half of our US customers are smart enough to fix it. Of those, about 1/2 will only fix it some/most of the time. It only occasionally causes problems but it looks damnably sloppy.
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Jul 18, 2017 02:39
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hosed up!
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Jul 18, 2017 03:23
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pram posted:hosed up! Proof that the Germans really did win the war.
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Jul 18, 2017 03:23
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you know who used a comma as a decimal mark? that's right 
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Jul 18, 2017 03:57
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Comma as a decimal is a special form of hideousness.
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Jul 18, 2017 03:58
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the russians just wrote dollars and cents
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Jul 18, 2017 06:02
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can you explain what sap does? i havent been able to figure it out
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Jul 18, 2017 06:07
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A bunch of boring backoffice poo poo
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Jul 18, 2017 06:11
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saps capital
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Jul 18, 2017 06:12
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mishaq posted:can you explain what sap does? i havent been able to figure it out you sap my will to live, etc etc
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Jul 18, 2017 09:28
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mishaq posted:can you explain what sap does? i havent been able to figure it out you know those internal business applications that are horrible and unmaintanable yet somehow mission critical? SAP figured out a way to make money off of them
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Jul 18, 2017 15:30
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qirex posted:you know those internal business applications that are horrible and unmaintanable yet somehow mission critical? this still doesnt answer my question 
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Jul 18, 2017 15:49
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mishaq posted:can you explain what sap does? i havent been able to figure it out when there is a job to be done and it requires materials from two different warehouses and someone to be called in to transport the materials from one of them (and picking it up makes the number in reserve fall below the required number so a purchase also needs to get made) and some extra money billed because a key person is required to work a bit of overtime and everything needs to be summed up and taxed at a different rate because it falls under a certain category of energy saving maintenance there would historically be about 47 forms to fill out and juggle all over the company to keep it together. SAP ups that to 47,000 virtual forms, but does actually do all the juggling and approval-tracking and binding all of it together tbqh the main problem with explaining sap is that it sort of on a basic level amounts to being an sql database with a ton of code on top serving as defaults for various paperwork tasks, and what parts of that actually gets used depends entirely on the structure of your organization
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Jul 18, 2017 16:09
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also any user facing component is terrible
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Jul 18, 2017 16:11
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:when there is a job to be done and it requires materials from two different warehouses and someone to be called in to transport the materials from one of them (and picking it up makes the number in reserve fall below the required number so a purchase also needs to get made) and some extra money billed because a key person is required to work a bit of overtime and everything needs to be summed up and taxed at a different rate because it falls under a certain category of energy saving maintenance there would historically be about 47 forms to fill out and juggle all over the company to keep it together. SAP ups that to 47,000 virtual forms, but does actually do all the juggling and approval-tracking and binding all of it together so instead of writing bastardized enterprise garbage applications to do this myself, i can pay for sap software that claims to do this for me, but i have to spend even more time either learning how to develop in sap myself or hiring outside firms to customize it for me, costing even more money
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Jul 18, 2017 16:25
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mishaq posted:so instead of writing bastardized enterprise garbage applications to do this myself, i can pay for sap software that claims to do this for me, but i have to spend even more time either learning how to develop in sap myself or hiring outside firms to customize it for me, costing even more money Yes. This applies to all ERP software.
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Jul 18, 2017 17:34
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thebigcow posted:Yes. This applies to all ERP software. p much, it's like the super 8-dimensional hell venn overlap of business software, it services and all your company's dumb processes
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Jul 18, 2017 18:25
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SAP:
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at a previous company I was at they were doing a huge like 1.5+ year project to migrate to SAP and I ran into some of the poor new hires that were basically going to be BPEL slaves to do maintenance after they finished up with the big offshore consulting company that would do a lot of the work the only really amazing thing that happened was they actually managed to complete the migration
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Jul 18, 2017 20:12
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mishaq posted:can you explain what sap does? i havent been able to figure it out Every night since I started here I cry myself to sleep while silently screaming this question at the uncaring ceiling. Cybernetic Vermin posted:when there is a job to be done and it requires materials from two different warehouses and someone to be called in to transport the materials from one of them (and picking it up makes the number in reserve fall below the required number so a purchase also needs to get made) and some extra money billed because a key person is required to work a bit of overtime and everything needs to be summed up and taxed at a different rate because it falls under a certain category of energy saving maintenance there would historically be about 47 forms to fill out and juggle all over the company to keep it together. SAP ups that to 47,000 virtual forms, but does actually do all the juggling and approval-tracking and binding all of it together But this, more-or-less, I think? I dunno man, I just provision the servers.
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Jul 18, 2017 20:12
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how about splashing out for a caring ceiling you cut price mother fucker
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Jul 18, 2017 20:27
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Other ERP problems: Companies that won't change their process to match how the software works. They either do a bunch of extra work for no good reason, or pay for "customization" which breaks on every other update of the base software.
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Jul 18, 2017 21:08
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that's a problem with all companies/people and computers
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Jul 18, 2017 23:43
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My online bank lets me type a period, because it's conveniently on the numpad. It then autocorrects to a comma. Also  Nevermind, that guy's also got dumb hair. And is a nazi too. Where'd the one go with the crying windmill?
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Jul 19, 2017 11:30
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here it's inconsistently a comma or a decimal point to denote the decimal boundary. hosed up but true. supermarket website uses point, bank uses comma altho i honestly dont really care either way. it was a bit weird at first when i moved here but now i'm used to it
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Jul 19, 2017 11:34
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emoji posted:lol
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Jul 19, 2017 11:47
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a lot of financial applications are set up to only accept input including the decimal, so to get $200.00 you need to type 20000 and it reformats it in the field
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Jul 19, 2017 17:36
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forms should only accept " and 99/100" suffix like you write on checks just to be on the safe side
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DecimalSeparator.svg green ftw
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