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Mukaikubo posted:My moldering, vacuum-frozen corpse votes for Saturn and Operation Sherman Going with this too. (Except I don't think I'm dead?)
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Sherman!
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Jul 19, 2017 00:31
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Jul 19, 2017 00:51
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Sherman Burn it all down
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Jul 19, 2017 01:02
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Let's do this! I also volunteer for the Martian Fleet. If a command on a light cruiser or destroyer or something similar is open, feel free to consider me.
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Jul 19, 2017 01:12
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I haven't posted in a while but I also endorse the Scorched Where's my light carrier? Am I still alive or am I a corpsicle floating in space like Mukaikubo?
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Jul 19, 2017 01:27
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You're still... somewhere. Actually, where the hell is the carrier? Oh, while I'm here, E: Oh, apparently I'm on the Victory now. That's cool too, carry on 
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Jul 19, 2017 01:30
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Time to party like it's 1864!
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Jul 19, 2017 02:02
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Pash posted:Its also good to remember that since PDCs don't need stuff like engines they shoot at stronger levels than their tonnage would suggest for a ship. It's also good to remember that PDCs generally use planetary stockpiles as their magazine. If there's no house-rules going on, that means their combat endurance is only limited by how many missiles are actually physically on the same planet as them... and you saw how fast we turned around and had nanoforges crap out a stack of mines. Also, because i feel like we aren't being paranoid enough about static defences, do remember that we aren't seeing anything below 2500 tons. At these tech levels, you absolutely can stick a dozen ASM box launchers and a fire control in a 1000-ton armored shell, whether that's a PDC or orbital defence satellite. Ceebees fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 04:32
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Good point. I expect for the actual battle we'll use a screen of our fighters, frigates and corvettes. Leading with our small stuff will protect against the expected fighters and FACs, and hopefully spot any small defense installations or mines. Behind that, mass up the main fleet for mutual point defense. A mini-PDC would be hard to spot, but it also won't throw a big salvo so we can hopefully handle it.
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Jul 19, 2017 04:49
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Re: magazine size, the way we're doing it is that the PDC can only use what's in its magazine to load its tubes. It can replenish its magazine from the colony stores, yes, but it's not instant - our PDC took, what, 12ish hours to restock? Point is, once they're empty they're empty unless we run away and give them time to reload. They might be able to get a trickle of missiles in from the colony stores and maintain a much lower rate of fire, though, so just because their magazine is dry doesn't mean they're harmless - just severely handicapped.
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Jul 19, 2017 05:36
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I vote for the Sherman plan and plan on commanding the rearguard to destroy the shipyards etc. assuming I don't get pasted in the initial attack.
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Jul 19, 2017 05:56
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plan Sherman sounds like we might be biting way more than we can chew at once, but with great risk there is a big reward to be had. Also volunteering for any forward scouting roles, since my (at the time generically named) last close peek ended so well.
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Jul 19, 2017 10:31
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Crazycryodude posted:You're still... somewhere. Actually, where the hell is the carrier? Carrier is at the top of the Triton defence fleet. In the previous battle it sortied it's fighters then just hung out with the support ships before returning to pick up the fighters and participate in SAR operations. [E] For those who want to do some VA and haven't already shoot me a PM here or discord letting me know what sort of range/accent you can do. Thanks! Saros fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 11:55
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Fray posted:Long, heated discussions on Discord have produced the following: This is a sensible plan I can get behind.' Edit: Does this include leaving the Musk behind? Pash fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 14:04
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Seeing as I have been designated Warcrimes in Chief I would like to propose an ancillary operation to go alongside whichever of Sherman or Uranus is eventually chosen. Our special ops have done an admirable job of attacking shipping when ordered, and I believe this can be expanded to more effective guerrilla tactics. I would suggest an attempted capture of a civilian tanker or harvesting vessel en route to one of the ICs sorium refineries, or potentially one of their transport hubs. Currently the most energy dense of known substances, the sorium fuel the ship carries would allow the team to easily rig it with explosives. Still transmitting it's civilian transponder codes it would dock with the refinery, or other soft target of high importance that would prove incredibly costly to repair and replace. I am no expert in the sorium supply chain, but knowing the profit-centric nature of the IC, such a place must exist. This operation is low risk and potentially very high reward. The primary downsides are the need for at least one Martian patriot to give their life in the endeavor, the potential for civilian casualties and the potential backlash at hitting the sorium supply chain directly- though this is exactly what we've been ordered to do. It may be difficult for our forces to board and capture an appropriate transport without it's alerting IC forces, but I have confidence our brave marines can pull this off. If there is any trepidation over the sacrificing of a life to ensure success rather than attempting a remote detonation with a higher risk of failure I will be the first to volunteer personally. Gentlemen, we cannot allow the IC to attack our homeland and get away with it. The hope for a green Mars has been directly assaulted, the ambitions of our entire people damaged and degraded. I for one will not let this stand. Let us hit them exactly as they have hit us: their very ideals. A corporation that becomes paranoid of it's own assets, that must pursue ever greater internal security and that sees it's very means of production reduced to glowing cinders can never remain profitable. I thus put forward to you Operation Vengeance. Fake Edit: I haven't been able to keep up and see that 'attack both in turn' might be a viable plan, and this might not jive with plans that include use of the marines. Still, I felt a bit of a more underhanded approach would be fun to at least place on the table. If nothing else it could serve as a hell of a distraction if it works.
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Jul 19, 2017 14:25
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Voting for operation Sherman. Two things though: operation waits until all Martian ships are repaired could take months! We need to prioritize which ships might not make the cutoff. (Looking at you victory) If we bring the tug we might even steal their shipyard!
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Jul 19, 2017 15:09
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I'll have a look at repair times tonight and see what we're working with but likely some Martian assets like Victory and probably Tarnished Fist (smashed engines) will take long enough to repair it will give the IC time to shift some forces out from Jupiter.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:39
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So while we're starting to wrap up the planning stages I've been considering putting together a properly rousing speech for the operation. As a strictly hypothetical question, any of you guys think it'd be a bit too much to say "Mars thirsts for the strength of its people" or is that a bit much?
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Jul 19, 2017 15:42
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The answer to "is this too over the top?" is always "no." Re: repair times, we're probably going to have to leave the really beat up stuff behind, unfortunately. We'll see what the repair timers look like, but we really want to get this show on the road ASAP.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:47
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Might have to settle for partial repairs on some ships. We should keep damage control working on them while they wait for shipyards. It'll be expensive in terms of maintenance supplies but I think it's worth it.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:48
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Dr. Snark posted:So while we're starting to wrap up the planning stages I've been considering putting together a properly rousing speech for the operation. As a strictly hypothetical question, any of you guys think it'd be a bit too much to say "Mars thirsts for the strength of its people" or is that a bit much? It is a proud Martian tradition to chew the scenery for sustenance in times of need. 
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Jul 19, 2017 15:56
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Crazycryodude posted:The answer to "is this too over the top?" is always "no." Saros posted:"From dust to life"
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Jul 19, 2017 15:57
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Saturn is ahead something like 18 to 5 though an exact count is tricky due to changing votes. For those fretting over the slowness of the captured IC missile ships remember you could always dispatch them first and have the rest of the fleet overtake after repairs are completed. Call max Martian fleet speed about 3000kps and the Mayers/Musk can make about 2300kps. Please do feel free to contribute stuff to the thread! I believe someone was asking about their own news vid a while back? If you want to make stuff that fits in with the plot let me know and I can give you some suggestions.
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Jul 19, 2017 16:51
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As an addendum to , which noted that all IC ships stay to defend Triton, we should instead take Musk with us and send it a week ahead with an small escort to meet up with the main force for the Saturnalia.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:06
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Yeah, the Musk is an offensive weapon, we should be using it on the offense. If I'm looking at the numbers right, it should be able to make the whole trip on its own tank of gas, and more than make up for its slow speed by cruising out ahead of time.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:10
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Saros posted:Saturn is ahead something like 18 to 5 though an exact count is tricky due to changing votes. For those fretting over the slowness of the captured IC missile ships remember you could always dispatch them first and have the rest of the fleet overtake after repairs are completed. Call max Martian fleet speed about 3000kps and the Mayers/Musk can make about 2300kps. Sending the Musk with the intact Mayers for escort ahead sounds like a great idea to me. As to timing, I think we should strike as soon as possible. I'd prefer not to wait even the two weeks the Naomi needs. The idea is to pay them back for Mars so politically we need to do that as soon as possible. Operationally, we have a window of opportunity now to hit a lightly defended Saturn. We don't want to give them any more time to reinforce than we need to.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:22
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When we get a hard list of repair times, then we'll nail down the timetable, but I agree. We want to get going within 2-3 weeks at the absolute latest.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:33
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I think the intact mayers would be better for the defense of Triton and act more of a deterrent along with the newly installed PDC in case that IC Fleet at Titania decides to feel a bit of risk taking.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:33
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Crazycryodude posted:We want to get going within 2-3 weeks at the absolute latest.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:40
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That's why Windhund 1 + 2 need to start scouting both planetary systems.
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Jul 19, 2017 20:17
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I think the general idea was to get going as soon as the 9th Crud get out here. How long is that going to take?
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Jul 19, 2017 20:19
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We do need our reinforcements from in-system at the very least. They're not in any of the screenshots of the outer system so probably at least a week away.
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Jul 19, 2017 20:31
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Fray posted:We do need our reinforcements from in-system at the very least. They're not in any of the screenshots of the outer system so probably at least a week away. Wait, where is 9th crud?, wouldn't it make sense to have them stay around Saturn then flying all the way to Neptune and back?
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Jul 19, 2017 20:41
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Wait, where is 9th crud?, wouldn't it make sense to have them stay around Saturn then flying all the way to Neptune and back?  They were coming from Mars, so they need to go around someway to meet up, as its probably not safe to try to cut through that gap between Earth and IC territory or go through IC territory.
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Jul 19, 2017 20:58
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Wait, where is 9th crud?, wouldn't it make sense to have them stay around Saturn then flying all the way to Neptune and back? Not really, no. Let them fly out to Neptune to join the fleet while repairs are underway, then the fleet can sally as one. Having the 9th wait would save fuel, but there's plenty fuel at Neptune and there's no other advantage to having them wait that I can see.
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Jul 19, 2017 22:24
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I vote for both Operation Vengeance and Operation Sherman
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 8 April, 1400hrs With the arrival of the John Phillip Holland Repair work speeds up.  The crippled Bill Gates and Marissa Mayer are stood down while Martian Engineers try to figure out a way to fabricate their replacement engines. Victory is 21 days from repair and Naomi is 6. Tarnished Fist needs an entire engine replacement so is over a month away. The rest of the fleet can be patched up inside a day without occupying the slipways. Senior Missile Technician (and toast of Triton Base) Ranjani reports his crew can fabricate size three missiles for the Marissa Mayer.  Finally new crews occupy and rename the captured ships that are ready to go. The Marissa Mayer has 50 of the new size 3 missiles and the Elon Musk has its complement of IC siege missiles.  Congratulations Synthorange, Arkanterian and LL6 on your new commands! I'm sure the smell will come out eventually. Locations:  9th Crudiv is about 5 days from Waypoint 2 where it can turn for either Saturn or Uranus or continue on course for Neptune. From Waypoint 2 both Saturn/Uranus should be about a week away. Intel estimates that waiting for the Victory will probably mean giving the IC a chance to reinforce but a few days for Naomi should be fine.  A strange message with no sender has appeared on your personal server. Supposedly the fleet operates a secure enviroment so something just appearing like this should be impossible. You open it and a famous figure from home appears on your screen, Senator Harris, head of the Freedom party. An ex-revolutionary and terrorist gone legit but also one of the most powerful men in Martian politics. Senator Harris posted:||| ID CONFIRMED CO. TRITON FLEET YELLERBILL ||| A look at the locations provided reveals primarily civillian administrative locations with the Titan stock exchange heading up the list. Orbital fire on these locations would no doubt result in enormous civillian casualties but ground attacks will be expensive in both men and materiel. 'Well isnt this quite something' he thinks as he places a call to his second in command, "Crazy" Cryo. Saros fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Jul 20, 2017 00:22
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Should be doable. We will have local superiority, bring in all the marines and assault troopers from Swift Tuttle.
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I've got a good feeling about this new ship.
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