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Still too biased, it makes it look like Chris wildly overstated what was going to be released and how soon!
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Not to be that guy, but has Derek ever offered a satisfactory explanation for why his games are so weird?
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 03:58 |
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Danknificent posted:Not to be that guy, but has Derek ever offered a satisfactory explanation for why his games are so weird? Made by grognard for grognards
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:04 |
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D_Smart posted:Yeah, they were focused on winning backers with pretty pictures. And they succeeded. Then when it came time to build and deliver the game, they realized that there was no tech to power the pretty pictures. I mean, the CitizenCon 2016 stream was the biggest indicator when they tried to pass of that poo poo as actual 3.0. Back when a lot of people (even guys here btw) were thinking it was real, Goons on my Discord and I were laughing our asses off because the minute I saw it, I knew that there was NO loving WAY that was anything but a proof of concept demo running in a controlled environment. I wrote a blog. A lot of noise happened. CIG had to come clean. They made a loving "Road To CitizenCon" video. I think it's awesome so you can ignore anybody who says otherwise here. I think it's awesome that you're passionate about it all, because you've invested so much into learning how it all goes together. I think it gives you a unique perspective into what CR says he's going to do. I still doubt he's coded a line of code since the 90s. Chris Roberts talks about how he's going to do all these amazing things like it's child's play. He's in it for "acting macho" in the programming world. It eats me up to see not only people buying into it, but even companies who have actual talent behind them. I work in a Linux world, so graphics are beyond me. I handle big data, database interaction with web software and other enormous multi-server entities, but I've always respected game coders just because I know it's hard and thankless usually. Though for you I can only imagine when CR is all "oh yes, not only will you land on your planet you'll also interact with a world as detailed as crysis but whole planets! With wildlife! That you can hunt! And procedural birds! Yeah it's like so simple we just flip a switch!" And everybody is all "omg it's loving amazing sauce!" And you and others like you (even me!, but less in experience), are all "wtf is this guy serious? Surely nobody is dumb enough to..." And then CIG makes another 2 million dollars. Of course, none of this easy stuff ever materializes or appears, and there's not even anything more than a YouTube video as "evidence", and everybody is good with it. It makes me shake my head, but I bet for you it's more upsetting because not only is he saying things you and some others have done through hard work, he's also adding tons of lies that people just dive head first into. I know that's got to be frustrating because everybody wonders why this didn't happen to a developer who could have actually done something with this. This huge, enormous windfall of free money and support fell into quite possibly the worst possible ex-developer. It's all squandered and wasted. What could have fueled a normal studio for decades and multiple games is going to run out before CR even makes a good functional vertical slice of even his single player game. I have not supported CIG yet, but I know there is irreparable harm done to how games will evolve and get funded now. It's going to be a lot harder to be an indie dev now. It's going to also be hard to have a great idea but fight the "I'm not CR guys really!" stigma that's going to plague projects that have unique scope. Worst of all I know there is going to be more people looking to cash in on this the same way CR has. Lots of lies, lots of great art, zero intent to follow through more than a "well we kinda tried, thanks for the Porsche!" I'm sorry indie developers of the world. On the bright side, Derek, at least you are retired and successful already.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:08 |
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Danknificent posted:Not to be that guy, but has Derek ever offered a satisfactory explanation for why his games are so weird? He has Autism. It is not a joke.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:10 |
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Danknificent posted:Not to be that guy, but has Derek ever offered a satisfactory explanation for why his games are so weird? Sims for grognards was mentioned recently and bc3000ad ticks a lot of grog boxes; single insane developer, bad graphics, incomprehensible ui. Sort of a pre-graviteam tactics without the Russian charm.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:11 |
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trucutru posted:Made by grognard for grognards So I had to google grognard, but okay. But I don't care if Derek is a degenerate furry or whatever that is; I'd like to remind everyone that he's the man who unironically saved me - for serious - from spending literally tens of dollars on a Star Citizen starter package. I'm not kidding. I'd have done it if not for Derek's shenanigans raising awareness of Chris' shenanigans and all that. What I'm getting at is that even if his games are weird and he has strange kinks, Derek Smart is an American hero and deserving of our respect.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:18 |
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free tophat
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:18 |
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Sillybones posted:He has Autism. It is not a joke. AUTISM WAS NOT A JOKE
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TheAgent posted:I mean one guy has done in a year what star citizen wishes it could be Ok this looks really neat. Does the guy have a timeline on when this goes beta or early access?
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:21 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:There's something about this response to G0RF's infographic that's insanely funny to me: This is sad. I know a lot of these guys are all just wanting to be left in peace, and that's fine. But if your hobby is getting punched in the tits repeatedly eventually people are going to watch. Then they're going to laugh. Then they're going to wonder why you keep doing it. Then they'll figure that the last punch that knocked you out is definitely the one that would make you stop. But you go again and again, and it gets worse, and there's blood, but you can't help but yell out like Leslie Neilson, "I love it!" But also each time you get knocked on your rear end you also pay the guy $20, and then he spits on you and tells you next time he's going to give you a big hug instead. Backers are the ones getting punched in the tits. The rest of us are just awestruck that backers are getting punched in the tits when they seemingly just want a hug. There's hugs everywhere, go get a hug somewhere! But no, backers want a hug only from the guy in black who keeps punching them. This is logical in Star Citizen.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:22 |
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I am kind of in disbelief that when things look bad for CIG you can't even agree on basic facts or reality. Everything becomes up for debate and consideration. Less planets is actually more. Your desires for how the game turns out were never supported, even if you can point exactly where they were. Facts are no longer facts. The Kickstarter was for something else, even though you can still look at it. The game is only in development for 2 years. It must be the realities of development. Supercharged development particles. They are sending ripples out and altering the very fabric of time and space. In two weeks development will begin again for the first time.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:32 |
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Sillybones posted:I am kind of in disbelief that when things look bad for CIG you can't even agree on basic facts or reality. Everything becomes up for debate and consideration. Less planets is actually more. Your desires for how the game turns out were never supported, even if you can point exactly where they were. Facts are no longer facts. The Kickstarter was for something else, even though you can still look at it. The game is only in development for 2 years. If you really want to see how nailed down things are, ask: How does mining work? How much will ship X cost me in the game? How will I buy and sell goods? What happens to my character and ship if I get blown up? These are just basic questions that, technically, everybody can knowingly answer with confidence. The game is 5 years old or more now, and has millions of people apparently playing it. But, each person will probably have a totally different answer for you. That's how nailed down Star Citizen is. So when you start asking theoretical questions and development progress stuff and is this or that a better direction to go in, you've gone into bat country, friend. You'll get nonsensical babbling and probably at least a few "you must be a goon/derek alt" comment.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:46 |
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how are things
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:55 |
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Derek laying down the doxxing law by forcing Ben Perry to sign up to online forums under the username "Ben Perry" with a picture of himself as an avatar.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 04:57 |
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D_Smart posted:Yeah. We did that to rope in some guys to help us test. In exchange, they got a bunch of really cool stuff. After we had enough people, in April 2016, I switched it to CBT. http://lodgame.com/store/ Cock-and-Ball Torture, or Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy? Ramadu posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7VUUBx5lKU peter gabriel posted:Oh god imagine if it's still like that Ramadu posted:i hope it is. god i hope it is I'm legitimately worried that I'm never gonna get to laugh at Crobbitz' magnum opus. Hopefully some devoted citizens will buy the source code from Coutts and release it before I die.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 05:02 |
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MedicineHut posted:I'm sure this must have been posted here before no? Socrates to Plato: "I called it in my Hekatombaion blog!"
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 05:19 |
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I love the fact that this lovely, under-delivered threedotzero patch has completely overshadowed the fact that Gamescom is in like three weeks gently caress this is going to be good
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 05:22 |
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G0RF posted:Here's a Pure Data edition, friend. Just for you. I think it's wonderful that you come back and a lurker felt utterly compelled to archive you. We are living rent-free in their heads.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 05:39 |
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Danknificent posted:Not to be that guy, but has Derek ever offered a satisfactory explanation for why his games are so weird? He's game/s are targeted to a certain gamer niche, sure they're def not some peoples cup of tea just like pineapple on pizza. I for one enjoy the game even if the graphics arn't AAA fidelity trillion polygon .jpgs it works and i'm fine with it. + he's funding it out of he's own pocket so he can design it to how ever he wants at what ever pace he wants cause he doesn't have to answer to publishers/investors or payday loan banks.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 06:05 |
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Ghostlight posted:Derek you can't just quote yourself from another forum into this one. You have to blog it first. Those are the rules. Blue Cross Blue Balls posted:He's game/s are targeted to a certain gamer niche, Kromlech fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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pineapples on pizza: bad over-stressed coffeeshop Wi-Fi: worse star citizen: worst
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 06:36 |
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Staying in a coffeshop, eating that pineapple pizza slowly while using the wi-fi to browse Star Citizen-related forums: smart
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 06:38 |
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toanoradian posted:Staying in a coffeshop, eating that pineapple pizza slowly while using the wi-fi to browse Star Citizen-related forums: smart *stirs yogurt and blue cheese into coffee*
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 06:49 |
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Barista: "You disgust me sir."
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 06:53 |
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New thread title is Lazrin posted:the one thing i can't get straight around here is, do you get more of an autistic boner when cig decreases the scope, or when they increase the scope of 3.0? It's both, it just never stops growing
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 06:59 |
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Danknificent posted:Not to be that guy, but has Derek ever offered a satisfactory explanation for why his games are so weird? They're designed for people who miss the days when games came with keyboard command overlays to put on top of your keyboard. There's most certainly a market for it, and he never intends to sell a trillion copies. Think of it as a hardcore mod for train simulator.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 07:00 |
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no_recall posted:Not sure if this was posted before, but I do hope Star Citizen as a "competitor" does the same. CIG's going to beat this in every conceivable way... by being more open... by not saying a thing!
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 07:50 |
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So, I took a another look at their "schedule" page. Delamar is mentioned as a planet. (Is it? GORF's infographic shows it as a moon) quote:DELAMAR / LEVSKI (STRETCH GOAL) Also, lol, volumetric fog is still not updated as feature complete, and still says "ETA is 9th June (was 30th May)".
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 08:39 |
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Kromlech posted:pineapples on pizza: bad Pineapple on pizza is the best. It adds a subtle sweetness that the pizza needs. If you truly disagree it means you are definitely a shitizen.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 08:44 |
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grimcreaper posted:Pineapple on pizza is the best. It adds a subtle sweetness that the pizza needs. If you truly disagree it means you are definitely a shitizen. this guy gets it e: tax
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 08:57 |
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MedicineHut posted:I'm sure this must have been posted here before no? Amazing
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 09:25 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1E3l8pewzY&t=1009s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0grZDNdUYY&t=2753s theres tons of interviews and ingame demos from 2013-2014 that might be fun in retrospect, if someone has time to do some digging.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 09:27 |
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grimcreaper posted:Pineapple on pizza is the best. It adds a subtle sweetness that the pizza needs. If you truly disagree it means you are definitely a shitizen. No, the correct toilet paper position is under.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 09:39 |
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If you think the sweetness of pineapple is subtle then you have broken pineapples or broken tastebuds.
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 10:22 |
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toanoradian posted:No, the correct toilet paper position is under. And the ketchup bottle is stored in the cupboard, not fridge
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 10:40 |
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Skywanderers: one guy, less than a year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCITNnomMkqQv1aNi_8dxVBQ?videos
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# ? Jul 20, 2017 11:55 |
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notoriousman posted:My favorite E:D critics are the ones with 800 hours sunk in and they regret every moment! This game is so shallow and lacking in content I dedicated an entire month's worth of time doing absolutely nothing! http://steamcommunity.com/id/honkylips/recommended/359320/
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G0RF posted:Whew! Good post, G0rf, you even taught me a new word today
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