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HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Cojawfee posted:

I'm not saying they knew what they were doing. I'm just saying that when they broke into the Fiat factory late at night and started pushing buttons and taking whatever parts came out, they unknowingly got a couple good ones.

Butbutbut! Passion! Soul! Character! Joie de vivre! Also AAA memberships are cheap.

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wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

Somebody find that axle-through-spring Mercedes suspension system. That beats the Saab for weirdness.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
gently caress I can't tell you how many times I've looked for that photo

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh
Are lever shocks sometimes called cantilever shocks? I've heard that phrase tossed forever with autocross and old cars and never clued in.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Normally cantilever shock means a cantilever assembly actuating a normal telescopic one, but it's possible they could mean a lever arm damper.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


Best Dead Gay Forums
on the whole Internet!
This seems like a good time to post Audi UFO brakes again:







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g2s_xX3nmw&t=53s

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Vanagoon posted:

Audi UFO brakes

https://ranwhenparked.net/2009/11/17/what-lies-beneath-audi-ufo-brakes/

Superior German Engineering®

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
"No start"

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Beach Bum posted:

"No start"

No poo poo.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Vanagoon posted:

This seems like a good time to post Audi UFO brakes again:







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g2s_xX3nmw&t=53s

They work great....

...on race cars where they can be replaced often. They warp too readily on regular cars.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I didn't realize lever arm dampers were a thing after like 1940. Actually, I didn't even know they were a thing until recently when I started reading the shock absorber handbook

Captain Kosmos
Mar 28, 2010

think of it like the "Who's Who" of genitals

I knew that the shocks where not so strange, still they are pretty unknown to most people.

joat mon posted:

MGBs used lever arm shocks into the 80s.
Austin-Healeys used them to the end of production.

Saab used those till 1978 when they ended 95 production. There are kits to convert them to traditional shocks, but I am going to stick with those. I trust that the swedes knew what they were doing.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Captain Kosmos posted:



Saab used those till 1978 when they ended 95 production. There are kits to convert them to traditional shocks, but I am going to stick with those. I trust that the swedes knew what they were doing.

I'm pretty sure the swedes might have hosed that one up

Captain Kosmos
Mar 28, 2010

think of it like the "Who's Who" of genitals

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

I'm pretty sure the swedes might have hosed that one up

I know :( there is punch other stupid poo poo on 95/96 that I consider 99 first proper Saab.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
Wasn't there also some 4WD BMW that had the front driveshaft run through the oil pan?

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


bolind posted:

Wasn't there also some 4WD BMW that had the front driveshaft run through the oil pan?

Not a great shot but the E30 iX models did this. Amazing cars in the snow but sourcing parts can be a real pain in the rear end.

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull

bolind posted:

Wasn't there also some 4WD BMW that had the front driveshaft run through the oil pan?

In fairness, lots of stuff does that.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





mekilljoydammit posted:

In fairness, lots of stuff does that.

Yeah, GMT360 trucks (Trailblazer, etc) do it. 2WD versions still get the oil pan with a giant machined hole through it.

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012
I imagine it's a jackshaft running through a tunnel built into the sump, not an actual driveshaft with seals running through the sump proper?

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Nah, with BMW it's a driveshaft with seals. With nissan and merc I didn't notice.

mekilljoydammit posted:

In fairness, lots of stuff does that.

Yeah, i was looking up the BMW as I knew it was an X model, but when searching "drive shaft through sump"I came across a lot of other cars. Many cars that are 6cyl, longitudinal(n-s) and awd do the same thing. Some even have the front diff in there

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jul 21, 2017

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

I'm pretty sure the swedes might have hosed that one up

Lever shocks work fine, though given the lever arm, they don't really have the fine tuning available with a valve/shim pack like a tube shock. I think you get a single adjustment of compression and rebound, and they are more susceptible to fluid heating. They are a whole hell of a lot better than friction shocks!

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



And all to avoid, for some reason, going to larger-than-15" wheels.

Beach Bum posted:

"No start"


The stupid thing, besides the owner/mechanic, is that the easy solution is a cheap marine terminal, since the OEM cable has a ring terminal. It's like they went out of their way to break a problem even worse.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



The Door Frame posted:

Donks don't drag well, do they?


Guess not.

Gotta wonder if those rims were rented.

90s Solo Cup fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jul 24, 2017

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

bolind posted:

Wasn't there also some 4WD BMW that had the front driveshaft run through the oil pan?

NitroSpazzz posted:

Not a great shot but the E30 iX models did this. Amazing cars in the snow but sourcing parts can be a real pain in the rear end.


mekilljoydammit posted:

In fairness, lots of stuff does that.
Yeah, the AWD Ford Sierras did it this way, including the Sierra and Escort Cosworths. AWD Skylines too, I believe.

Overcomplicated though it looks, it's a better solution than the Audi/Subaru design in one way, in that it lets you mount the engine further back (less of a problem with Subaru's general small/light engines, granted) at the expense of increased complexity.

If you look at the Jensen FF, they take it to the logical extreme and run the front axle all the way in front of the engine, which is why they're longer wheelbase than the Interceptor.

Root Bear
Nov 15, 2004

DARKEST SKETCH


:stonk:

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



:psyduck:

I bet that made a noise.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Ready for paint!

LongSack
Jan 17, 2003

How ... I don't know even ...

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Aww shucks.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Were they dropping the chassis out of the frame? What was the sequence of events here?

Obviously apart from "they dun goofed".

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Memento posted:

Were they dropping the chassis out of the frame? What was the sequence of events here?

Obviously apart from "they dun goofed".

It hit a speed bump and was hauled in like that. GMT900s have insane rust issues.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

LongSack posted:

How ... I don't know even ...

I've just noticed the oil slick.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Possibly the frame slipped off the lift pads and that pulled the body off?

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
I'm gonna go with "Lifted the body, not the frame" for 10 points Terry.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

..... How????

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Well, at least it'll be easier to replace the FUBAR rusted-out brake hardlines.

Impressed that they managed to flip the chassis. Going to be fun times getting the rubber side down again; no room for a crane.

PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jul 25, 2017

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Thats one where you send the pic to your workshops insurance company with just "Your guess is as good as mine?" written under it.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

ReelBigLizard posted:

I'm gonna go with "Lifted the body, not the frame" for 10 points Terry.

That was my thought too, but how do you do that on a BOF truck?

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


spog posted:

I've just noticed the oil slick.

ATF? There's no rear driveshaft.

All in all, a worthy failure. 10 points for style.

edit: or, maybe just all the oil from the engine, since it's not really designed to hold the oil in upside down.

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Raluek posted:

That was my thought too, but how do you do that on a BOF truck?

Maybe they were unbolting it to do a body lift and used a little to much English on a stuck bolt?

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