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50% don't give a poo poo, and we can promise to the other 50% that we will be VERY careful to only target people with guns with our nukes. Not our fault if civilians stand next to them. Let's do it.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 02:47 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:07 |
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I'm all for killing the crap out of capitalists but there are good hard working future Martian citizens on those rocks.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 03:00 |
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And we thank them for their sacrifice in furthering Martian freedom to the Saturn system.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 03:01 |
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sniper4625 posted:We're fanatics, No? They tried to strike at our very survivability as a planet, I'm sure jingoism is at a peak. Speaking of jingoism: A speech by current commanding officer Snark on the commencement of Operation Sherman. (Max props to Cryo for voicing this and HiHo ChiRo for audio cleanup and properly uplifting BGM)
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 03:12 |
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That's an excelent piece of work, thanks everyone!
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 12:20 |
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8 April, 1433hrs The frigates launch a sweep of the Neptune system. Elsewhere two likely targets are identified for Operation Vengence. The marines set out to capture them. Over at Swift Tuttle the assault force begins loading again, it will take 12 hours to get everyone on board 9 April, 0148hrs The slower IC ships set off while the rest of the fleet waits for CL Naomi to be repaired. 10 April, 0717hrs A day passes without much to report. Prancer and Surprise intercept their target for operation Vengeance, an enormous 120kt civillian ship. The Marines board and secure the vessel swiftly before any distress call can be made. However to their horror the modular cargo ship is shipping workers to Titania rather than being rigged for fuel transport! 250,000 souls in cryostasis! The Marines report they can rig the ship using warheads from Prancer and the modular nature of the freighter means its possible to have the cryo containers detatch before the detonation but odds are a significant number of the frozen workers would be caught up in the disaster. Goons, go or no-go on Operation Vengeance in light of this? Saros fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jul 22, 2017 |
# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:27 |
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Send the ship to Triton. Maybe we have some VIPs onboard that the IC might actually care about. Nevermind! HiHo ChiRho fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Jul 22, 2017 |
# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:37 |
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Nobody important travels in cryosleep im afraid. Important people have fast liners that flit about to take them places. Sending it to Triton is tricky as Uranus is in the way and they would notice it deviating from its course and probably respond. If Operation Vengeance goes as planned it could cripple the Titania docks and stop export of Oh and some other good news I forgot: Global warming is good my friends! Saros fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jul 22, 2017 |
# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:40 |
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What percentage of the total IC population does this represent?
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:45 |
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IC major settlements.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:49 |
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Is there any way to remove the pods before setting up the plan? I guess then there's the problem with what to do with them...
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:51 |
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You could release them early to minimise casualties but the IC would notice and probably realise what was up reducing the odds of a successful operation.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 13:59 |
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OK. Just wanted to get that info out there. I have a pretty good idea from recent posts how this is going to go down, but I just wanted to check.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 14:02 |
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HiHo ChiRho fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jul 22, 2017 |
# ? Jul 22, 2017 14:12 |
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I recommend an Abort Mission.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 14:33 |
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Do not use that vessel for the operation. If I'm reading the map right there's a Gilles-class ship relatively close to it that the marines can capture instead. Now that we actually have an idea of what ship to capture we can take over a far less controversial target. If that's an option at this stage of course.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 14:58 |
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Hey, if we don't stuff this ship with bombs for max warcrimes, what can we do with it? Where could we just unload 250k people that would be beneficial for us or at least not so detrimental that it outweighs the disadvantage inflicted on IC by taking them away?
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 15:10 |
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Well I guess depending on how long the cargo filled with people in cryo stasis last being dumped, we could dump the colonists, fill the ship up with explosives and Fanatic Martian Marines to continue the delivery with care straight to the Titania colony. Then have something of ours try and smuggle the colonists to freedom at Triton.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 15:21 |
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Well I guess depending on how long the cargo filled with people in cryo stasis last being dumped, we could dump the colonists, fill the ship up with explosives and Fanatic Martian Marines to continue the delivery with care straight to the Titania colony. Then have something of ours try and smuggle the colonists to freedom at Triton. This is perfectly doable. However the cryo units are self contained pods that attach to the ships cargo spine, something like so: So when the ship shows up at Titania the IC will notice its missing all its cargo and be rather suspicious. At that point you'd just have to charge the ship for the station and hope they didn't manage to disable it before it impacts.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 15:31 |
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I'm gonna have to say abort. If Saturn goes well, the fuel from Uranus is gonna be almost entirely blockaded anyways, and killing hundreds of thousands of people to maybe gently caress up their docks isn't worth it. Even beyond the ideology, from a purely pragmatic standpoint it's not worth it. Corpses can't pay taxes or mine sorium, that's a quarter of a million prospective Martian citizens waiting to be liberated from their chains we just captured, not a bomb. Still useful, just in a different way.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 15:49 |
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I would feel better about it if these cryodudes were IC execs but if they're strictly ordinary people I can't really get behind killing even a few thousand of them, and it sounds like if we detach the pods we lower our chance of success and endanger the marines. It pains me to have to vote anti-hardliner even in this one instance but we must abort.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:03 |
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They're already frozen so introducing them to the cold embrace of space isn't going to do much. Keep on target.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:12 |
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I vote to nick the ship and the people on it. Send them somewhere useful. Find some other way that doesn't involve murdering massive numbers of civilians. Abort.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:33 |
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Full Abort, let the colonists go. We don't want to make the same mistake the Germans made with the Lusitania.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:42 |
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Actually changing my vote again - Just divert the ship to a direction that is something extremely inconvenient for the IC. It should be a nice distraction from Plan Sherman, and maybe keep the IC fleet out of Titania for a bit.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:47 |
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Agreed, abort. Freeze dried people make terrible shrapnel anyway.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:49 |
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Abort. There will be other freighters, and if Sherman goes well then destroying the Titania docks is kind of redundant anyway. And I'd rather do it with a freighter going to Jupiter instead. Let's send the ship off somewhere that will be annoying for the IC to get them back. Also, where are Whipple and Comas Sola right now? Fray fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jul 22, 2017 |
# ? Jul 22, 2017 16:55 |
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A vote to proceed with the plan would be wasted, so might as well send the ship off on the most inconvenient vector
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 17:08 |
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Excerpt from today's front page article on SpuzzfeedLakshmi Tupper posted:Where the Hell is Everybody?
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 17:20 |
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Saros posted:The Marines board and secure the vessel swiftly before any distress call can be made. However to their horror the modular cargo ship is shipping workers to Titania rather than being rigged for fuel transport! 250,000 souls in cryostasis! While it could be debated whether the citizen employees of the IC are as responsible for the actions of their government as those in a democracy, in this the argument is moot. While this ship would undoubtedly slip past IC defenses the fact is the Earthers would not forgive the use of such a vessel as a weapon of war. It is one thing to attack a legitimate target and cause civilian casualties, but it is entirely another to attack using civilians themselves. Such an act might even draw Earth into the war against us. I have no doubt of the ability of our brave men and women to defeat the likes of the IC and the Earthers in a two front war, but it would be far too costly- both for us and for Mars itself. I would not needlessly subject our future Eden to further nuclear fire. Our progress has been set back enough. While I must agree not to use the colony ship as a weapon I am not overly concerned. The ease with which it was captured makes it clear recovering a more suitable transport should be a simple matter for our crack operatives.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 23:18 |
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Abort
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 23:37 |
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Trow another one into the Abort count. As much as I loathe crossing the warcrimes line, I'm morbidly curious to see their reaction when they step out into Martian territory.
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 23:44 |
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drat it people, the IC already killed many of our own people and you are crying tears over theirs? Pathetic!!! You all care more for the cries of the IC women and children than you do for our own who demand vengeance for the attacks on our own citizens. We should use this rare opportunity to strike back. Rig the transport with explosives and sail it straight into the heart of the IC positions in orbit of Titania. We shall tear these IC fools to pieces with their own equipment. They will regret attacking our people!!
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# ? Jul 22, 2017 23:57 |
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Abort, the possible blowback isn't worth it.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 02:48 |
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Abort (the colonists)
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 03:53 |
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Actually changing my vote again - Just divert the ship to a direction that is something extremely inconvenient for the IC. It should be a nice distraction from Plan Sherman, and maybe keep the IC fleet out of Titania for a bit. This!
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 03:55 |
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I am deeply concerned over the implications of killing the colonists so I am abstaining.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 04:15 |
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Jack2142 posted:I am deeply concerned over the implications of killing the colonists so I am abstaining. Whatever Space McCain. Abort and send the ship to Earth or somewhere inconvenient?
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 04:21 |
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Voting abort. Leave them alone.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 04:28 |
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As much as I want to scare the hell out of the IC by burning everything we can get our hands on, we need to avoid getting Earth mad at us right now. I'm positive killing those passengers could come back to bite us. Voting send the ship off on an inconvenient vector. e: my title does not back me up here but oh well
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