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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Vanagoon posted:

The best relics of the old Scifi channel are Warehouse 13 and Eureka.

Never got to do Eureka, but I did love me some Warehouse 13.

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Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Cheap but entertaining sci-fi: Canada's chief export.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

WebDog posted:

I once had a cd drive cleaner. A cd that had bristles on it to sweep whatever off the laser diode inside.

There was one of those for PS2 at the same store.

mints posted:

Sony manufactured Beta tapes until 2015, Betamax mind you not the professional grade BetaCAM. I think they stopped putting out the VCRs in 2002.

That particular one looked early-'90s.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Trabant posted:

Cheap but entertaining sci-fi: Canada's chief export.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Samizdata posted:

Never got to do Eureka, but I did love me some Warehouse 13.

Seasons on Amazon for Eureka are currently $9.99 each (HD). Not sure if you need to be a Prime member or not.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B002JXK5VU

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Proteus Jones posted:

Seasons on Amazon for Eureka are currently $9.99 each (HD). Not sure if you need to be a Prime member or not.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B002JXK5VU

Cheers. I will look into it. That's magic.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


A few of us at work have a similar background in video production and overlap in the eras we worked. My boss used actual film and edited by splicing film on a desk and ended on early NLEs. A coworker started sweeping the cutting room floor and progressed to early tape based editing. I Started on manual decks and High8 and ended on SSD. We sure had a lot of interesting little back and forth banter about how we compared certain tasks.

The best was when we talked about colour grading. My boss was quiet for a time and eventually came out with "Well that's all good but I'm colour blind and no one knew! I just side-by-sided the preview with a colour bar test signal and matched it up the best I could"

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Yeah when colour TV kicked in so many cameramen lost their jobs as they were colourblind.

Which is a bit ironic as most on camera monitors were still black and white for a good while.

I don't miss the horrid antiques I trained on that had the teeth on the focus gears worn down to a nub that you fluffed shots from being unable to focus in time as the gear slipped.

And they were powered by compressed air so you had to be careful releasing the main pillar, else it could shoot up and hit you hard.

The really old stuff had ashtrays mounted to the arms.

Using brand new pro studio gear for the first time was magical. Getting excited over a crash zoom button and responsive controls. :woop:

Malachi Constant
Feb 2, 2006

I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all

Humphreys posted:

A few of us at work have a similar background in video production and overlap in the eras we worked. My boss used actual film and edited by splicing film on a desk and ended on early NLEs. A coworker started sweeping the cutting room floor and progressed to early tape based editing. I Started on manual decks and High8 and ended on SSD. We sure had a lot of interesting little back and forth banter about how we compared certain tasks.

The best was when we talked about colour grading. My boss was quiet for a time and eventually came out with "Well that's all good but I'm colour blind and no one knew! I just side-by-sided the preview with a colour bar test signal and matched it up the best I could"

My uncle got drafted during Viet Nam and helped create training movies (videos?) for the army. I started working with him when he needed a computer guy who could use Final Cut Pro (he had a little production company). We shot on BetaSP and edited on an OS 9 Mac up until about 2010 since we couldn't afford an upgrade, and it was local TV and the HD switch hadn't fully happened yet.

It's amazing to me how quickly things have changed. When I started around 2000 TV production required tens of thousands of dollars worth of cameras, decks, computers, and specialty capture cards. We worked with another company that used an even more expensive AVID system.

Now you can produce a youtube show with higher video/audio quality for a fraction of the cost.

Goddamn I hated lugging that massive camera around.

edit: Still have a box of old tapes.

Malachi Constant has a new favorite as of 08:25 on Jul 22, 2017

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Gromit posted:

Turns out it's 5 pins!



Yeah, that's standard 3 phase plug in Australia. 415Vac, (3x 230V, plus neutral, plus earth).
3 phase seems really common in domestic housing built in Perth before 1970 as well. But not those plugs though, I mean house hook ups. Most houses I have lived in were pre 1970 built and had three phase for water pumps (bore or pool) or old ducted air con as single phase sucked for large motors back then. loving awesome as well if a phase or two goes down in mains supply but some power points or lights still work in your house.
Those plugs aren't in houses, they're mainly in workshops or industrial buildings, as anything that needed them in a domestic house is usually fixed equipment and therefore hardwired.

E: we don't do 2 phase at all in australia, you either asked for three phase if you thought you might need it later, or you had to deal with just single phase. Probably a load balancing issue? They were all too happy to hook up 3 phase in the past if you asked and paid for it, but these days they probably wouldn't want to.

Fo3 has a new favorite as of 09:41 on Jul 22, 2017

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Is this the point where I mention that most of Norway is wired IT, where you get two or three live phases to the wall (at 230V to each other), no neutral, and provide your own ground?

(Modern installations are a more normal TN , where the phases are 230V to Neutral and you can get 400V between the phases, but that's only been standard a couple of decades.)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Malachi Constant posted:

It's amazing to me how quickly things have changed. When I started around 2000 TV production required tens of thousands of dollars worth of cameras, decks, computers, and specialty capture cards. We worked with another company that used an even more expensive AVID system.


I still love the AVID MOJO I saved from the junk heap when I left that company. One of these days I'll actually hook it up or pull the FPGA out for a project.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013


a betamax cassette just labeled AMBULANCE WRECK is absolutely in the top 100 haunted artifacts

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Pastry of the Year posted:

a betamax cassette just labeled AMBULANCE WRECK is absolutely in the top 100 haunted artifacts

holy poo poo lol I didn't even see that

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
make sure you show someone that ambulance wreck tape within 7 days

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Pastry of the Year posted:

a betamax cassette just labeled AMBULANCE WRECK is absolutely in the top 100 haunted artifacts

That's betacam, which was standard for local news recording for the better part of three decades. There are assuredly hundreds, most likely thousands of betacam tapes with that label. Sorry to ruin the fun.

berth ell pup
Mar 20, 2017

I am a business magnet.

Fo3 posted:

Yeah, that's standard 3 phase plug in Australia. 415Vac, (3x 230V, plus neutral, plus earth).
3 phase seems really common in domestic housing built in Perth before 1970 as well. But not those plugs though, I mean house hook ups. Most houses I have lived in were pre 1970 built and had three phase for water pumps (bore or pool) or old ducted air con as single phase sucked for large motors back then. loving awesome as well if a phase or two goes down in mains supply but some power points or lights still work in your house.
Those plugs aren't in houses, they're mainly in workshops or industrial buildings, as anything that needed them in a domestic house is usually fixed equipment and therefore hardwired.

E: we don't do 2 phase at all in australia, you either asked for three phase if you thought you might need it later, or you had to deal with just single phase. Probably a load balancing issue? They were all too happy to hook up 3 phase in the past if you asked and paid for it, but these days they probably wouldn't want to.

There are things called phase converters that are electric motors hooked up to something or other that turn single phase into three phase. Depends on how badly you want to use that equipment.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

berth ell pup posted:

There are things called phase converters that are electric motors hooked up to something or other that turn single phase into three phase. Depends on how badly you want to use that equipment.

With VFDs/ASDs getting relatively affordable these days, I'd look at one of those (capable of single-phase input) before a phase converter.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Grassy Knowles posted:

That's betacam, which was standard for local news recording for the better part of three decades. There are assuredly hundreds, most likely thousands of betacam tapes with that label. Sorry to ruin the fun.

Well yeah, making a copy of the tape and passing it long is the only way to be free of the curse.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

blugu64 posted:

Well yeah, making a copy of the tape and passing it long is the only way to be free of the curse.

I just watched V/H/S 2. That tape actually turns you into a zombie if you watch enough in the right order.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

berth ell pup posted:

There are things called phase converters that are electric motors hooked up to something or other that turn single phase into three phase. Depends on how badly you want to use that equipment.
I can't imagine how much they would cost.

Probably easier to get an inverter and change any motors to dc, like how large single phase inverter air cons and large pumps/fan motors work with the bonus of being variable speed. Single phase ac in and 3 phase dc out. Existence of those things these days is why the power company probably don't want to reftrofit 3 phase mains supplies to current single phase houses. they'll just tell you to buy inverters and deal with it.
But I suppose if you threw enough money at them anything is possible.

Fo3 has a new favorite as of 03:18 on Jul 23, 2017

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Fo3 posted:

Yeah, that's how large single phase inverter air cons and motors work. Single phase ac in and 3 phase dc out. Existence of these things these days is why the power company probably don't want to reftrofit 3 phase mains supplies to current single phase houses. they'll just tell you to buy inverters and deal with it.
But I suppose if you threw enough money at them anything is possible.

Was gonna say that the "two-phase" system used in homes is called an "Edison" system, two 120V lines 180° out of phase. You can also use a specially wound transformer called a "Scott-T" to get three phases out with two phases in. However the two phases in have to be 90° apart. That's not really normal unless you say only have two wires and put a Scott-T at each end.

Some of the super old electrical stuff is wild. Some early ships had generators that ran at 25Hz - the crew areas illuminated by this system were referred to as "the flicker" because the low frequency caused the lights to... well... flicker.

Three-Phase has a new favorite as of 03:28 on Jul 23, 2017

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Grassy Knowles posted:

That's betacam, which was standard for local news recording for the better part of three decades. There are assuredly hundreds, most likely thousands of betacam tapes with that label. Sorry to ruin the fun.

You say that like the world isn't full of ghosts with room for millions more

mala
Jun 21, 2010
We have 2 phase in Australia, mainly on SWERs (Single Wire Earth Return). A SWER is basically a tree trunk with a single HV line on the top, it uses the ground as a return path for current. I think they are 13kV. The step down transformer gives you 480v with a centre tap, so you have either 480v or 2x 240v 180 apart.

Phase converters aren't too bad, they can be odd as they will give you different line voltages (phase to neutral) across the phases. If you're on a SWER and don't have the option for 3 phase they make sense. I think some of the failure modes on SWERs can be pretty interesting.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

mala posted:

I think some of the failure modes on SWERs can be pretty interesting.

"Huh, neat." interesting, or "Tonight, at 11." interesting?

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Yeah, I'm obviously a city boy, so tell me more.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

WebDog posted:

The really old stuff had ashtrays mounted to the arms.

Asian built ships still have stuff like ashtrays on control room consoles, very sixties vibe from that.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Arcade cabinets in China have ashtrays built into them even today.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Ashtrays were the cup holders of their time.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


I noticed the last few flights I've been on no longer bother with the no smoking sign at all. There's the seatbelt sign and a wifi sign, but no permanently lit "no smoking" sign. They still had ashtrays until recently too. I bet "sky jitney" Alitalia still has both though.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Kelp Me! posted:

Arcade cabinets in China have ashtrays built into them even today.

My 2005 Dodge Neon came with a "smoker's package" which included the cigarette lighter and an ashtray that fit in the cup holder.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

You call that a smoker's pack? Here's a proper smoker's pack:



50s Chevy option. Powered by engine vacuum. Push the little lever and it sucks the ash off your cigarette and traps it in that glass bottle hidden in the engine bay.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
This SAGE console is one of my favorite old school systems, especially because it has not only an ashtray but a socket for a cigarette lighter!



EDIT: I also like the rotary dial that looks like it came from Maxwell Smart's shoe phone.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




The original Smart phone

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

Horace posted:

You call that a smoker's pack? Here's a proper smoker's pack:



50s Chevy option. Powered by engine vacuum. Push the little lever and it sucks the ash off your cigarette and traps it in that glass bottle hidden in the engine bay.

gonna assume they stopped making these because of too many dick related "accidents"?

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

Light Gun Man posted:

gonna assume they stopped making these because of too many dick related "accidents"?

gonna assume they never started making these because of "people" like you

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Vic posted:

gonna assume they never started making these because of "people" like you

What the gently caress?

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

What the gently caress?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

What the gently caress?

ABANDON THREAD!

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Someone please explain?

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