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holy loly did they pick the entirely wrong mech to represent copyright infringement on the marauder? how the gently caress did they screw that up so bad
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:11 |
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Cowcaster posted:holy loly did they pick the entirely wrong mech to represent copyright infringement on the marauder? how the gently caress did they screw that up so bad They literally just want a settlement. It's like a mob protection money so they probably don't give a gently caress.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:13 |
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https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/wawd/242820/1-0.html If anyone wants to read the paperwork.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:20 |
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Time to mount a defense based on "THESE ARE BATTLEMECHS THEY ARE NOT ROBOTS"
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:23 |
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I'm sorry I think you mean "robot warriors".
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:28 |
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The good news is, in most of these frivolous bullshit suits, the judge can order them to pay all of the defendant's legal fees.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:31 |
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I hope gets turbofucked. Harmony Gold might actually have something there.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:32 |
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Can't say I'm a fan of PGI, but the Marauder and Warhammer models were licensed from them, so if they lose bigly then those two are out of the game and any hope of getting others in expansions goes with them. The connection of the HBS images are spurious, but they seem driven by an aggressive legal/negotiating strategy more than anything. What raises my eyebrow is that they also extended their complaint to InMediaRes/CGL, likely over their own remade images, which might bring in Topps as the owner of the tabletop IP.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:54 |
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Their examples aren't even the same mechs that the original designs were licensed (or based on) from - it would be one thing if they went "here's our marauder, here's their marauder, they're the same mech". But they're just throwing out generic here's a "robot warrior" design we own, look these guys are also designing "robot warriors". They might as well claim that they own all bi-pedal mech designs ever. It's just a crash grab. I mean look at their examples. The mech they claim ripped off the Officer Pod doesn't even have arms. Or a back-mounted gun. DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jul 24, 2017 |
# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:57 |
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Skoll posted:Someone bought a Pacer sub and posted this on discord : Ahahahahahahahaha. As much as I hate PGI, Harmony Gold can eat a bag of dicks.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 23:58 |
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I'm seriously contemplating contacting HG and asking if I can contribute to their legal fund just to cause the HBS discord grogs mass aneurysms.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 00:03 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:Ahahahahahahahaha. Exosquad was all Playmates ripping off of FASA's pitch for the Battletech cartoon, though they joined with HG to release Robotech crossover merchandise after jointly loving FASA over in the courtroom.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 00:07 |
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^^^ Oh, I'm aware. I just put that up because it amuses the hell out of me and Harmony Gold was involved in the lawsuit that got that particular toy Cease & Desisted.Skoll posted:I'm seriously contemplating contacting HG and asking if I can contribute to their legal fund just to cause the HBS discord grogs mass aneurysms. How many LA apartments will you be buying?
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 00:07 |
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Enough apartments to warehouse the salt it will generate.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 00:26 |
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You guys do know that Harmony Gold has been suing them since hte 90s and was responsible for a lot of the art change back in the FASA days, right? This will probably get settled out of court, but do not be surprised if this game does some Steam Greenlight poo poo or other stuff to make up the money. Unlike Activision, they don't have a megalithic legal department to give HG the finger.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 01:27 |
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Skimming the paperwork, they correctly matched the MWO Reseen to their older analogues, but then for the comparison against HBS's battletech they just grabbed robots at random even though they correctly matched them like two pages up and the games share art assets. It's amazing and I hope someone at Harmony Gold gets hit by a car.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 01:42 |
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It doesn't matter if they can match the reseen to the old infringing model, because the names didn't change. That's not a difficult task (although apparently it is for the braindead monkeys at Harmony Gold). The names weren't what was infringing anyway. The new models are far different than old lovely anime, so that will get laughed out of court if it ever goes. I think the true comedy scenario would be if, based on ultimately the license for Battletech being leased from Microsoft, that Microsoft would get involved. Harmony Gold lives off making GBS threads on small time devs that don't really have the funds to fight back. If MS jumped in, Harmony Gold would basically have two options: Drop their suit, weakening all future cash-grab claims, or get obliterated in court by an opponent they can't possibly run out of money. Now, I don't think that will happen. But it would be hilarious if it did.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 02:13 |
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How has Paradox been in lawsuits, if any?
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 02:29 |
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Zaodai posted:It doesn't matter if they can match the reseen to the old infringing model, because the names didn't change. That's not a difficult task (although apparently it is for the braindead monkeys at Harmony Gold). The names weren't what was infringing anyway. The new models are far different than old lovely anime, so that will get laughed out of court if it ever goes. The best possible outcome.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 02:30 |
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It's a shame HG is trying to make a Copyright case and not a Trademark case.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 04:02 |
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A.o.D. posted:It's a shame HG is trying to make a Copyright case and not a Trademark case. So they're not even good IP trolls?
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 04:04 |
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Rygar201 posted:So they're not even good IP trolls? You go to court with the filings you have, not the filings you want.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 04:06 |
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A.o.D. posted:You go to court with the filings you have, not the filings you want. In every trial, there known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 04:09 |
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Skoll posted:I'm seriously contemplating contacting HG and asking if I can contribute to their legal fund just to cause the HBS discord grogs mass aneurysms. PGI is a shitshow but lol if you don't think HG is worse. That's some serious cutting off your nose to spite your face poo poo.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 05:22 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:PGI is a shitshow but lol if you don't think HG is worse. That's some serious cutting off your nose to spite your face poo poo. Fucks given : 0.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 05:33 |
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Coffeehitler posted:How has Paradox been in lawsuits, if any? I don't think so, the biggest issues they've had to deal with was that time a jewish streamer yelled 'Oh thank god for hitler' in a hearts of iron game (I hope this is a thing that actually happened).
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 05:59 |
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I was under the impression that as poo poo as PGI was the general consensus was their models are good and they did good by letting HBS use them.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 15:40 |
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Sky Shadowing posted:I was under the impression that as poo poo as PGI was the general consensus was their models are good and they did good by letting HBS use them. Yeah, that's the standpoint of most sane people. Skoll's just mega salty about PGI being
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 15:57 |
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That's the correct impression to have but apparently this skoll guy is toy robot game Captain Ahab or something e:fb
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 15:59 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Yeah, that's the standpoint of most sane people. Skoll's just mega salty about PGI being Psycho Landlord posted:That's the correct impression to have but apparently this skoll guy is toy robot game Captain Ahab or something Neither of these are wrong.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 16:35 |
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Well let us know how your mad quest to give HG money goes. Or don't. No one cares.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 21:20 |
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I care skoll.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 21:38 |
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Note: The complaint is dated 5/1/2017. Since then, HBS has done nothing but move forward, so I'm hoping that is a good sign
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 21:43 |
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I want to be the federal judge that gets to listen to a bunch of rich lawyers argue about robot warriors. "Your honor, I submit in exhibit B that the armor scheme of the Battletech Warhammer is significantly different than the Robotech Tomahawk, further more it carries significantly better weaponry." "OBJECTION"
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 21:49 |
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Skoll posted:I'm seriously contemplating contacting HG and asking if I can contribute to their legal fund just to cause the HBS discord grogs mass aneurysms. I'm sorry that you aren't getting enough attention
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 21:58 |
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Maybe an exercise routine might help? Some light lipo?
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 21:59 |
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succ
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 22:03 |
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some mad grogs itt. gonna donate to HG in all your names.
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 22:04 |
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Skoll posted:some mad grogs itt. donate in the name of love
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# ? Jul 24, 2017 22:04 |
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n...no! Don't!!!
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