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Groogy posted:I have become dead inside, I do no longer have enough life in my soul to muster the energy needed to rant about how someone is wrong on the internet anymore.
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I kinda thought for combat you'd build different types of 'Fleet' entities and then each fleet would have slots that you'd design the ships for. So you build a "Picket" fleet which has a main destroyer slot, two frontline corvettes, and then an auxiliary corvette slot that can be a different design than the frontline, design ships for those slots or plop in premades, and then the fleet pops up on the map and automatically draws in ships from nearby stations until it's topped off or you turn off maintenance. And then maybe at this point get rid of (most) ships as discrete individual things and have your fleets ship sections be represented by an hp pool with dps rising/falling as it drops/rises But really I think it's a decent game, I just want them to figure out a way to mitigate deathballs
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stellaris bad, hoi 4 good. I loved moo2 as a kid but going back it is just not a good game. The sames pretty much true of the civ series now thanks to the dogshit AI. It's time to abandon the 4x genre completely as every single iteration in recent times has been dissapointing
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buckets of buckets posted:stellaris bad, hoi 4 good. This, but the opposite.
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buckets of buckets posted:stellaris bad, hoi 4 good. stellaris alright but flawed, hoi4 good but flawed thanks to althistory mods providing a bunch of variery.
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Groogy posted:I have become dead inside, I do no longer have enough life in my soul to muster the energy needed to rant about how someone is wrong on the internet anymore. 
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Jul 31, 2017 18:23
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i'm gathering i should be banned from this thread
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Jul 31, 2017 18:47
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corn in the bible posted:Distant Worlds Is a cool, fun game.
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Lum_ posted:i'm gathering i should be banned from this thread My hero! Eu4 >> All games
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uPen posted:Is a cool, fun game. I want to play it but  at the price
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I wish HoI4 was good gotta keep playing HoI3 I guess
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I think if they get rid of the tile management micro and focus more on factions being the real meat of the planet interaction, the game wpuld be a lot more unique. As an example, I want my imperium of man to deal with a Malcolm Reynolds crew of misfits spreading dissent in the empire.
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Phi230 posted:I wish HoI4 was good Fixed. HoI2/Darkest Hour with the Total Realism Project mod is so far the best I've had to actually feel like I'm playing WWII.
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pdxjohan posted:My hero! I feel a little guilty towards CKII saying this.... but you're not wrong.
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Lum_ posted:i'm gathering i should be banned from this thread I dunno, Victoria 2 is good, but I can totally see being turned off by its elderly design choices if you put it up against those other titles.
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pdxjohan posted:My hero! He's uninstalled them all.
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Gort posted:I dunno, Victoria 2 is good, but I can totally see being turned off by its elderly design choices if you put it up against those other titles. Yeah, I like Victoria 2 enough to put up with its flaws, but it definitely still feels like pre-CK2 Paradox design. There's a reason the subtitle of this thread is "still waiting on Victoria 3" rather than "still playing Victoria 2"
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I love the poo poo out of hoi2 and Vicky2 but they're really really hard to go back to after all the quality of life stuff we've gotten since.
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I mean Jesus gently caress who thought "Let's make every regiment come from a place and then when every soldier from that place is dead you have to disband the regiment and make a new one from somewhere else" was a good idea
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Alchenar posted:He's uninstalled them all. *heh* Actually, was posting from work. (I work at another game company, thus why I had Steam handy)
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Gort posted:I mean Jesus gently caress who thought "Let's make every regiment come from a place and then when every soldier from that place is dead you have to disband the regiment and make a new one from somewhere else" was a good idea Honestly, I really like that. I like everything about the POP system in Vicky 2. If they could add Vicky 2-like POPs to every Paradox game, I would be over the moon (actually I know it would be a huge clusterfuck in practice but bear with me). That kinda ties into main reason I love Vicky 2 so much: you actually see the affects of your decisions on regular people. In CK2 and EU4, you don't really see how your country's population is affected by your rule beyond general stats and modifiers like stability and prosperity. In Vicky 2, I can browse the population menu and see who's winning out from my policies, who's losing, what their lives are like, what kind of people oppose me and why, it all just scratches some megalomaniacal itch in my mind better than any other Pdox game. If Vicky 2 had a more modern UI and better quality-of-life stuff, it'd probably be my most-played Paradox game, and not my second-most after CK2.
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Phi230 posted:I wish HoI4 was good "Don't like imperfect game, gonna play flaming pile of poo poo game."
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Pakled posted:Honestly, I really like that. I like everything about the POP system in Vicky 2. If they could add Vicky 2-like POPs to every Paradox game, I would be over the moon (actually I know it would be a huge clusterfuck in practice but bear with me). That kinda ties into main reason I love Vicky 2 so much: you actually see the affects of your decisions on regular people. In CK2 and EU4, you don't really see how your country's population is affected by your rule beyond general stats and modifiers like stability and prosperity. In Vicky 2, I can browse the population menu and see who's winning out from my policies, who's losing, what their lives are like, what kind of people oppose me and why, it all just scratches some megalomaniacal itch in my mind better than any other Pdox game. If Vicky 2 had a more modern UI and better quality-of-life stuff, it'd probably be my most-played Paradox game, and not my second-most after CK2. This kind of psychosis leads to War in the Pacific. I get it, though. It would be cool to be able to dig deep and find out that the pivotal action of the greatest war you had in your Victoria 2 game was "the charge of the Herefordshire First Light Hussars" or some poo poo. However, the player shouldn't have to do a shitload of clicking because of that kind of stuff, it should just be there in the background if you want to look at it, a bit like the "What ships has this ship sunk" lists in Hearts of Iron games.
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Gort posted:I mean Jesus gently caress who thought "Let's make every regiment come from a place and then when every soldier from that place is dead you have to disband the regiment and make a new one from somewhere else" was a good idea Henry Rawlinson.
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turn off the TV posted:Henry Rawlinson. Ah yeah, along with his other amazing ideas like "Advance into machinegun fire at a slow walk"
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Funky Valentine posted:"Don't like imperfect game, gonna play flaming pile of poo poo game." I dunno I'd rather play a WW2 game than EU4 with lots of stacks
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Lol @ nerds that have such venom against a wargame-lite like HoI3 If you want a sandbox don't play the HoI series?
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Gort posted:This kind of psychosis leads to War in the Pacific. That's not what the post you're replying to said at all. It's not about what the Herefordshire First Light Hussars did, it's about that Herefordshire doesn't have any young men left because they all died in a fight for two measly provinces.
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Give me your most dehumanising portrayal of imperialism. No that's too dehumanising
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Pakled posted:Honestly, I really like that. I like everything about the POP system in Vicky 2. If they could add Vicky 2-like POPs to every Paradox game, I would be over the moon (actually I know it would be a huge clusterfuck in practice but bear with me). That kinda ties into main reason I love Vicky 2 so much: you actually see the affects of your decisions on regular people. In CK2 and EU4, you don't really see how your country's population is affected by your rule beyond general stats and modifiers like stability and prosperity. In Vicky 2, I can browse the population menu and see who's winning out from my policies, who's losing, what their lives are like, what kind of people oppose me and why, it all just scratches some megalomaniacal itch in my mind better than any other Pdox game. If Vicky 2 had a more modern UI and better quality-of-life stuff, it'd probably be my most-played Paradox game, and not my second-most after CK2. Yeah this is what keeps bringing me back to Victoria even though it doesn't have the bredth of features of CK2 or EU4, or the interface conveniences of HoI4. None of the newer games really effectively capture that feeling that there are actually PEOPLE living in the worlds you're playing - just abstract nation-minds where "manpower" is a currency that is spent and regenerates over time (Which, thinking about it, probably IS fairly accurate to the ruler's attitudes at the time. But it's not very interesting). POPs are really the defining feature of the Vicky series and if they ever do make a third one I'm hoping that they keep the level of detail in how they're portrayed.
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Phi230 posted:Lol @ nerds that have such venom against a wargame-lite like HoI3 Eh. I think you'll find people who prefer something that actually resembles history vs. "hai guize i conquered the world as bolivia" tend to prefer the HoI2 version, which also had more traditional wargame mechanics (such as building divisions directly and controlling them) along with the event-driven gameplay that made for a somewhat less insane WW2. It was exactly the same with EU2 vs EU3 (thus why For the Glory exists, it's a for-sale version of the most popular event-driven EU2 mod) but then EU3/EU4 got pretty good even with the sandbox gameplay at making a coherent world and the HOI series isn't there yet. But if you have fun go nuts! (thus why I like Stellaris)
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Farecoal posted:I want to play it but goes on sale for reasonable price every so often
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Phi230 posted:Lol @ nerds that have such venom against a wargame-lite like HoI3 one problem i have with hoi3 is the ai usually can't figure out how to do landing assaults and this means anything but the actual war in europe sucks. but the pacific front also sucks in hoi4 so
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Farecoal posted:I want to play it but Said the same thing after looking at March of the Eagles today.
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Lum_ posted:Eh. I think you'll find people who prefer something that actually resembles history vs. "hai guize i conquered the world as bolivia" tend to prefer the HoI2 version, which also had more traditional wargame mechanics (such as building divisions directly and controlling them) along with the event-driven gameplay that made for a somewhat less insane WW2. You know you can manually control divisions in HoI3, right?
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GrossMurpel posted:You know you can manually control divisions in HoI3, right? And in HOI4. But there are... multiple other issues.
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Phi230 posted:Lol @ nerds that have such venom against a wargame-lite like HoI3 Got nothin to do with realism vs sandbox and everything to do with it being a poo poo game with poo poo AI and poo poo mechanics That said, if you love that poo poo pile of poo then more power to you
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Also having like 20 second pauses when midnights ticked over when it launched that I'm still bitter about.
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