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Jmcrofts posted:The Manbearpig episode of South Park is loving shameful, especially when you realize it's not even that old. There was an overwhelming scientific consensus that man-made climate change was happening in 2006 too. I still think it's funny even if what it's making fun of is true.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:01
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South Park's biggest downfall is that Matt and Trey are absolutely loving terrified of being considered old and no longer these hot edgy dudes so they've basically doubled downed on the shittiest kind of "HEH, YOU'RE OFFENDED BY ME CALLING YOU A FAG?! WOW, BETTER GET IN YOUR SAFE SPACE YOU loving QUEER HEH" Cartman went from basically being an evil shithead who you were supposed to hate to the dude tearing those dumb ol liberals down! When the show focuses on either: A. Universally absurd ideas and concepts (reality TV, NAMBLA, bad movies) B. character lore and ideas it can be super funny. It turns to poo poo when it becomes Matt and Trey's Libertarian/Alt Right Picture Show. Honestly this was ALWAYS a problem. I've been going through older episodes and two in particular stand out as really bad Sexual Harrasment Panda's message is basically "Yeah sexual harassment is bad...but did you ever think that by suing the company you may be even worse?" Cartman's Silly Hate Crime 2000 is basically the lamest college freshmen bullshit of "Man wh...when you really think about it.....aren't all crimes hate crimes?"
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Jul 31, 2017 21:02
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OldTennisCourt posted:South Park's biggest downfall is that Matt and Trey are absolutely loving terrified of being considered old and no longer these hot edgy dudes so they've basically doubled downed on the shittiest kind of "HEH, YOU'RE OFFENDED BY ME CALLING YOU A FAG?! WOW, BETTER GET IN YOUR SAFE SPACE YOU loving QUEER HEH" I maintain that the best South Park episodes are the genre parodies. The teen comedy that was Asspen, sports drama in Stanley's Cup, crime thriller in Toilet Paper, or even cop action flick in Lil' Crime Stoppers. Trey and Matt are outstandingly good at satirizing media tropes because they're passionate about movies and pop culture. They don't give a poo poo about the vast majority of current events, and if an issue is the slightest bit nuanced they won't do the bare minimum of research needed to effectively satirize it. Ultimately the biggest crime in South Park's ethos is giving a poo poo. Caring about anything is fundamentally stupid, no matter what. Makes for great satire about things that truly don't matter, like movies. Completely backfires when it's something that actually matters at all.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:18
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If memory serves, they don't want to cover Trump now that he's president either, but I haven't watched the show in a while. I don't think they're obligated to make fun of the guy, but it seems hypocritical considering they haven't shown much reservation in the past. RobotDogPolice has a new favorite as of 21:34 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 21:31
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Riatsala posted:Ultimately the biggest crime in South Park's ethos is giving a poo poo. Caring about anything is fundamentally stupid, no matter what. Makes for great satire about things that truly don't matter, like movies. Completely backfires when it's something that actually matters at all. I think this is South Park's worst legacy. Every fan of the show that I know is so drat cynical that it's hard to be around them. This November alone I heard the Douchebag/Turd Sandwich bullshit way too many times. The whole mentality of "Well, nothing works and everyone is incompetent, so I might as well sit on the sidelines and make fun of it (instead of trying to make things better)" is so cowardly.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:33
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RobotDogPolice posted:If memory serves, they don't want to cover Trump now that he's president either, but I haven't watched the show in a while. http://uk.businessinsider.com/south-park-trey-parker-trump-parody-2017-6?r=US&IR=T quote:“South Park” turns 20 this year. Has it gotten harder over those years to do satirical comedy, especially now that everyone on the Internet can make their own jokes off the latest news within seconds? Let's be honest: the guy is so far beyond parody, how do you do something outrageous and funny about him, when the real world antics are even worse?
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Jul 31, 2017 22:58
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Translation: We're both tremendous babies and we're scared to lose our alt-right fanbase by bashing Trump.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:05
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spog posted:Let's be honest: the guy is so far beyond parody, how do you do something outrageous and funny about him, when the real world antics are even worse? The only thing they could do would be to portray Trump as some sort of 24's Charles Logan.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:07
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They've portrayed easy targets before. This is the biggest pile of bullshit they're pulling so they can hide behind it. I'd believe them more if the last two seasons weren't "Heh SJW liberal pussies....right guys?" They don't wanna lose that sweet sweet sweet hate money.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:16
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spog posted:Let's be honest: the guy is so far beyond parody, how do you do something outrageous and funny about him, when the real world antics are even worse? A lot of the people they make fun of are already a parody of themselves though. They make fun of them specifically for that reason, then they make those people represent an entire philosophy. It just seems like your priorities are totally hosed when you devote time to ridiculing safe spaces, something that's relatively innocuous, but decide to say nothing about policies that are actually impacting people's lives while claiming to be satire. RobotDogPolice has a new favorite as of 23:48 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 23:46
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300th episode of the Simpsons Like yes celebrities are a thing since forever in the Simpsons but who the hell thought Tony Hawk, Blink 182 and Michael Jackson's child endangerment pictures would be timeless
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Jul 31, 2017 23:48
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letthereberock posted:The entire first season of Parks and Recreation is pretty much unwatchable in light of the changes they made for the subsequent seasons. To be fair, the first season was 6 episodes long, trying way too hard to be an office rip off, and was loving terribly. I've rewatched the show many times and I've never watched season 1 beyond the first time. Plus I wanna say that season was close to getting the show cancelled before it ever started but I can't find any articles on that
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Aug 1, 2017 00:06
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Stefan Urquell was a 23 minute infomercial for cocaine
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Aug 1, 2017 00:11
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RobotDogPolice posted:A lot of the people they make fun of are already a parody of themselves though. They make fun of them specifically for that reason, then they make those people represent an entire philosophy. I'm not disagreeing with you, but how do you mock someone who paints his face orange, has a reverse mullet, can't complete a coherent sentence and is quite possibly illiterate? What can you do that is a funny parody when reality out - parodies the parody? Edit: I'm not trying to drag politics into this thread: my answer to the first post is 'all those episodes where they had the 'worst possible leader of the free world' look hopelessly naive now' spog has a new favorite as of 00:32 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 00:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA4yuz8qgj4spog posted:I'm not disagreeing with you, but how do you mock someone who paints his face orange, has a reverse mullet, can't complete a coherent sentence and is quite possibly illiterate? They could always just make poo poo up about them, like how they gave Al Gore a speech impediment he doesn't actually have and had the story be that he was just faking everything for attention after he didn't get to be president. Or when they said that anti-smoking people actively lied about tobacco companies marketing to kids in the name of pushing their crusade on the public. They're pretty good at coming up with ways to make fun of people when they actually disagree with them, at least.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:18
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OldTennisCourt posted:South Park's biggest downfall is that Matt and Trey are absolutely loving terrified of being considered old and no longer these hot edgy dudes so they've basically doubled downed on the shittiest kind of "HEH, YOU'RE OFFENDED BY ME CALLING YOU A FAG?! WOW, BETTER GET IN YOUR SAFE SPACE YOU loving QUEER HEH" I know they didn't because even if they personally have enough money to coast the rest of their lives, the cottage industry around the show is hundreds of people's livelihood and that's valid, but it was still creative dishonesty.
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Aug 1, 2017 04:05
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well why not posted:The best parts of Community is when the turn the meta tap all the way on and you get stuff like "Subway" being a character. The worst part is when they try and do anything romantic. It's such a mess of a show, I can't help imagine what it'd be like if the cast and crew didn't cycle out like they do. I agree, the best episodes of Community is when they go gently caress it and now they're in a KFC rocket ship.
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Aug 1, 2017 06:18
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Every joke about Trump is already being done by 50 people before you, on Twitter and in real life. I don't blame them for not wanting to get in on that. Though, as said, it's probably also that they're too lazy to put the research work in to come up with something new about him that isn't in the mainstream (anymore). Like that thing about how he spent some time pretending to be his own publicist over the phone to reporters. And then had to admit in court he did it. And then later denying he ever did that. There's this SP episode where Stan gets depressed and starts seeing everyone as having sharting assholes for mouths and it's such a downer, it feels like you're just watching Matt and Trey cry out "we don't wanna do this anymore HELP US"
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Aug 1, 2017 06:54
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mind the walrus posted:I still wish that episode "you're getting old" was the series finale. It would have been a complete surprise and absolutely the best creative end possible. God, that would have been amazing.
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Aug 1, 2017 06:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY1wCw6AlyQ
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Aug 1, 2017 07:09
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Pick posted:I agree, the best episodes of Community is when they go gently caress it and now they're in a KFC rocket ship. I watched that episode about the same time Rick & Morty was announced and thought, yes, this is a good move as clearly Dan Harmon has no interest in reality of any sort. His podcast is also insane at times, he just gets so, so drunk and gives diatribes before playing D&D with his adopted man-son/assistant.
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Aug 1, 2017 10:19
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This thread makes me want to write an extreme amount of words about Community and I am actively resisting temptation.
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Aug 1, 2017 10:39
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It's been an age since I last watched South Park but is this the two-parter where Stan starts hearing all pop music as farts and the episode ends with a sad song and him facing turning the ripe old age of 13? Paralleled with his father's mid-life crisis?
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Aug 1, 2017 13:42
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letthereberock posted:Seriously, can anyone who wasn't around in 1991 possibly make sense of this? I think if you've seen any lovely commercial you can make sense of this.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:49
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they really went overboard with the meta bits on Community and it's just painful to watch never seen a show more smug about how smart it is than Community
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Aug 1, 2017 15:28
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When you're binging Friends and all of a sudden everyone's wearing NYFD gear and you realize: you've just crossed into the post-9-11 episodes. SNL getting Rudy Giuliani to give them the okay to make jokes is... awkward now because we know how much of a piece of poo poo Giuliani is, but he was gold after 9-11. It was a weird time. Any other shows where you can tell it was made right after a national tragedy?
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Aug 1, 2017 17:20
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Precambrian posted:When you're binging Friends and all of a sudden everyone's wearing NYFD gear and you realize: you've just crossed into the post-9-11 episodes. SNL getting Rudy Giuliani to give them the okay to make jokes is... awkward now because we know how much of a piece of poo poo Giuliani is, but he was gold after 9-11. It was a weird time. Any other shows where you can tell it was made right after a national tragedy? The crew of the Enterprise began fighting the Suliban. The sitcom Spin City took place in the NYC's mayor's office, I think they just hugged a lot.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:31
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Precambrian posted:When you're binging Friends and all of a sudden everyone's wearing NYFD gear and you realize: you've just crossed into the post-9-11 episodes. SNL getting Rudy Giuliani to give them the okay to make jokes is... awkward now because we know how much of a piece of poo poo Giuliani is, but he was gold after 9-11. It was a weird time. Any other shows where you can tell it was made right after a national tragedy? Forgive me for crossing over to another form of media, but there were a few Marvel comics that brought 9/11 into their stories. Here's Spiderman getting chewed out for not stopping it from happening:  And here are Marvel villains Magneto, Doc Ock, and even Dr.Doom crying over the disaster:  A cursory glance seems to show that the reception felt it was incredibly ham-handed.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:18
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Hyrax Attack! posted:The crew of the Enterprise began fighting the Suliban. Oh God. I never watched much of Enterprise but I never made that connection.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:34
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the star trek example is particularly egregious because on deep space 9 the bajorans were totally an analog to the mujahideen and they were the good guys
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Aug 1, 2017 20:00
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FutureCop posted:And here are Marvel villains Magneto, Doc Ock, and even Dr.Doom crying over the disaster:
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Aug 1, 2017 21:47
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On the subject of The Simpsons and computers, this joke from the Hank Scorpio episode: Wait, what joke? Why, that an elementary school could be so fancy as to have its own website! Precambrian posted:When you're binging Friends and all of a sudden everyone's wearing NYFD gear and you realize: you've just crossed into the post-9-11 episodes. SNL getting Rudy Giuliani to give them the okay to make jokes is... awkward now because we know how much of a piece of poo poo Giuliani is, but he was gold after 9-11. It was a weird time. Any other shows where you can tell it was made right after a national tragedy? And not so much aging poorly as prescient, but Season 2 was about stopping a war in the Middle East being pushed by figures in the US government using false intelligence about the presence of WMDs. It began five months before the Iraq War did.
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Aug 1, 2017 22:04
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I think they ultimately retconned that into being a Doombot and not actual Dr. Doom because they were like "yeah, there's no way the supervillain cries about that". Or something equally second-level dumb. You can see the Juggernaut in that scene from the 9/11 comic, being upset about the World Trade Center. The same World Trade Center he destroyed in 1991: http://m-v-b.tumblr.com/post/83532479282/that-time-the-juggernaut-destroyed-the-world-trade
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Aug 1, 2017 22:25
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Wouldn't you be upset if someone plagiarized your work?
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Aug 1, 2017 22:31
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Lord Hydronium posted:24's series premiere, which aired in November 2001, featured a 747 being blown up by a terrorist. The only change actually made as a result of 9/11 was cutting out the onscreen explosion and having it happen just off-camera. And there's this great Snopes page about The Coup's cover art that had an exploding WTC in the background, done in June 2001 and scheduled for release in November: quote:I came up with the idea with the photographer. We took the pictures on May 15, and we were done with it by the beginning of June. Any similarities are totally coincidental, and it was originally supposed to be more of a metaphor for destroying capitalism — where the music is making capitalist towers blow up. The politics of the Coup have more to do with the people organizing each other.
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Aug 1, 2017 22:36
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I know there are Law and Order episodes that didn't age well but I can't think of any specific ones at the moment.
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Aug 2, 2017 00:16
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Gaunab posted:I know there are Law and Order episodes that didn't age well but I can't think of any specific ones at the moment. I'd say the Gamergate one, but I don't think was ever well
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Aug 2, 2017 00:23
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fruit on the bottom posted:I'd say the Gamergate one, but I don't think was ever well The supercut I watched that added random effects to the episode and ended with "terrorists win!" was amazing and well worth it. Episodes of shows that approach technology from an out of date perspective are amazing cringe comedy at times. Other times, you get Simpsons parodying Pokemon Go like it's 1997.
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Gaunab posted:I know there are Law and Order episodes that didn't age well but I can't think of any specific ones at the moment. There's an episode of the original L&O that aired in like the first season that was about AIDS and so now when its on they put a disclaimer at the end saying the info is out of date. Mainly because it was done before before there were effective anti-AIDS drugs so the characters treat it like an almost instant death sentence.
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