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There's an episode of CSI (or maybe CSI New York?) where the main guy has to go into Second Life to track a murderer and it's amazing. I'm pretty sure it was awful when it aired. e: god this is so much worse than I remembered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZboyfaVLM4&t=358s (5:58 if it doesn't autolink) eating only apples has a new favorite as of 01:51 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Who would be the perfect short cameo character in a fluffy sex comedy show for women, Sex in the City? Why Donald Trump, of course! Let's put him in an episode called, ""The Man, The Myth, The Viagra."
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An episode from the original Law and Order where Captain Cragen is getting mad about gangster rappers and he's looking at a picture of Ice T.
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mind the walrus posted:I'm watching Deep Space Nine for the first time, and in the later seasons there's a lot of dated looking 90s laser tag tech. Even by star trek standards it looks awful. Since you are in this thread, let us know when you get to "Profit and Lace"  Not that I'm implying it was any good when it came out. Just that seeing it today would be like seeing a Casu marzu from 1998. Catalina has a new favorite as of 04:03 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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eating only apples posted:There's an episode of CSI (or maybe CSI New York?) where the main guy has to go into Second Life to track a murderer and it's amazing. I'm pretty sure it was awful when it aired. This is amazing
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Hey Cortana, open "shows that made tasteless-in-restrospect gay jokes, june 1998, part 1."
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I think they ultimately retconned that into being a Doombot and not actual Dr. Doom because they were like "yeah, there's no way the supervillain cries about that". Or something equally second-level dumb. Dr. Doom is a maniacal Eastern European dictator who tortures and murderers dissenters. Magneto has gone into "KILL ALL HUMANS" rampages in an unironic version of Bender from Futurama multiple times. Using those two specifically is like that Shmorky comic only unironic. So it's really about pedantic  bad writing than anything else. The Kingpin and Doctor Octopus make sense though, because while they get homicidal they're usually closer to Lawful Evil. I do have to say I don't know who else they could have used with the same iconic status as Doom, so points there I guess.
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eating only apples posted:There's an episode of CSI (or maybe CSI New York?) where the main guy has to go into Second Life to track a murderer and it's amazing. I'm pretty sure it was awful when it aired.
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Catalina posted:Since you are in this thread, let us know when you get to "Profit and Lace"  in how terrible it is. It was like the show was dared to match the Space Africa and Space Irish episodes of TNG and rose to the challenge.
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Oh hey, how about the really awkward fact that for the first four or five seasons of Archer their espionage agency was called ISIS? I haven't seen the most recent season, I imagine they must have had some kind of joke about this by now, but I imagine this will only get more awkward in later years when people go "wait, what year was it? did they name this after the other thing, or"
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bagshotrow posted:Oh hey, how about the really awkward fact that for the first four or five seasons of Archer their espionage agency was called ISIS? I haven't seen the most recent season, I imagine they must have had some kind of joke about this by now, but I imagine this will only get more awkward in later years when people go "wait, what year was it? did they name this after the other thing, or" ISIS being called ISIS made half the hookah lounges in the country change their names, too. (ISIS is/was not actually called ISIS.)
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Volcott posted:ISIS being called ISIS made half the hookah lounges in the country change their names, too. Americans want ISIS to be called ISIS because it sounds like an evil organization from an 80's cartoon.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Americans want ISIS to be called ISIS because it sounds like an evil organization from an 80's cartoon. Also, the Black President called it ISIL, and he's a nerd, so we can't call it that.
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A while back, I wrote an article with a similar premise as this thread, except it went in the other direction (episodes that were once normal, but now tragic to watch). - A MASH episode guest starring Patrick Swayze as a soldier with cancer - A Golden girls episode where they think about death and Betty White ponders, "what happens when there's only one of us left?" - The Just Say No episode of Diff'rent strokes where Nancy Reagan comes on and all the cast agrees that drugs are bad. - The Family Ties episode where Alex does too much Ritalin and becomes a twitching mess Also not sure if it ever was kosher, but this rape-scene-played-for-laughs is a 10 on the cringe scale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff0cq7rFAt0 Drunk Nerds has a new favorite as of 07:05 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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mind the walrus posted:The Gamergate episode of Law and Order SVU was 100% dated on arrival and it's impressively terrible even if you don't give the slightest gently caress about Gamergate (like a normal person). They even managed to be impressively terrible about the message, which is basically 'Video games are owned entirely by angry white males hostile to anything female, being a woman game designer will get you assaulted and raped' and showed game conventions as places where women are constantly subject to misogynistic harassment. It's basically telling women to give up and run away.
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Catalina posted:Since you are in this thread, let us know when you get to "Profit and Lace" actually, having marathoned the entire series recently, ds9 was very progressive tv for its time considering they do have quark making out with a guy in that episode. they also had an episode where dax kisses a woman and an episode where ezri kisses kira
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Can Trill be used as a trans metaphor? It got weird when it turned out that Kurzon mentored Jadzia but broke it off because he had the hots for her. And then half of him moved into her body. I'm sure that's someone's fetish. ...wait, that's basically the origin of the original Hermaphrodite.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Americans want ISIS to be called ISIS because it sounds like an evil organization from an 80's cartoon. Volcott posted:Also, the Black President called it ISIL, and he's a nerd, so we can't call it that. Inescapable Duck posted:They even managed to be impressively terrible about the message, which is basically 'Video games are owned entirely by angry white males hostile to anything female, being a woman game designer will get you assaulted and raped' and showed game conventions as places where women are constantly subject to misogynistic harassment. It's basically telling women to give up and run away. The teaser where the lady is raped in a bathroom by two GAMERS and afterwards another woman asks her what happened, and she said in the most blase attitude possible "they just leveled up" while putting lipstick on in the mirror. And Ice T taking about Kotaku and Civilization in the most unconvincing manner possible. im pooping! posted:actually, having marathoned the entire series recently, ds9 was very progressive tv for its time considering they do have quark making out with a guy in that episode. they also had an episode where dax kisses a woman and an episode where ezri kisses kira . Remarkably clever for the time.
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I was rewatching The Young Ones not to long ago and was a little gobsmacked at this scene with the racist cop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxaWCb9U9iQ also bonus points for people in the comments complaining about the scene being cut when ever its broadcast today.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Also not sure if it ever was kosher, but this rape-scene-played-for-laughs is a 10 on the cringe scale: I don't think this scene was played for laughs, just that the audience was uncomfortable with it.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Can Trill be used as a trans metaphor? Surely the changelings are the better trans metaphor. They represent the vast spectrum of fluidity and show that gender is ultimately a social construct. Odo can literally present himself as he chooses, and same with the "female" Changeling.
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Dragonstoned posted:I was rewatching The Young Ones not to long ago and was a little gobsmacked at this scene with the racist cop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxaWCb9U9iQ To be fair, it's pretty clearly a joke at the police's expense. They did a lot of jokes about how cops are violent racists. But yeah, you don't see the n-word being dropped so casually on anything but serious drama anymore.
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Gaunab posted:I don't think this scene was played for laughs, just that the audience was uncomfortable with it. It's definitely played for laughs. There are clear jokes throughout (eg. 3:02 where she asks him if he wouldn't rather a cup of coffee instead).
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Gaunab posted:I don't think this scene was played for laughs, just that the audience was uncomfortable with it. Yeah, you didn't rape old women in your 70s sitcoms.
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mind the walrus posted:And Ice T taking about Kotaku and Civilization in the most unconvincing manner possible. I believe there was one episode involving video games from the first half of SVU's run - either a Second Life type simulator or a JRPG - in which Ice T describes video games as "magical rape land".
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John Murdoch posted:
One of the episodes of the most recent season was kind of about that, and in sort of a meta-way about how the x-files reboot itself was useless. Shame the episode had a weirdly transphobic joke thrown in there.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I believe there was one episode involving video games from the first half of SVU's run - either a Second Life type simulator or a JRPG - in which Ice T describes video games as "magical rape land". 
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L&O: SVU and Ice-T are wonderful because they gave us this brilliant bit from John Mulaney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4pQBYg1vfA
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Precambrian posted:When you're binging Friends and all of a sudden everyone's wearing NYFD gear and you realize: you've just crossed into the post-9-11 episodes. SNL getting Rudy Giuliani to give them the okay to make jokes is... awkward now because we know how much of a piece of poo poo Giuliani is, but he was gold after 9-11. It was a weird time. Any other shows where you can tell it was made right after a national tragedy? There was that episode of Just Shoot Me where Jack hangs an enormous flag on the building and it turns his office blue but he can't be remove the flag because it'd be unpatriotic.
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CannonFodder posted:Mulder's phone would always be at 5% power or straight up dead because he drained the battery watching sasquatch porn. "Northwoods Gang Bang 7: The Would Ape"
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Didn't the law and order gamergate also have a Toby "tobuscus" turner cameo like five years after he was relevant?
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I wonder if the people who complain about how most of Seinfeld doesn't work because cell phones exist ever watch, I dunno, The Knick and go "pssh, penicillin would totally fix this"
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The Knick was awesome.
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mind the walrus posted:I still wish that episode "you're getting old" was the series finale. It would have been a complete surprise and absolutely the best creative end possible. Yeah, that show should have been it because it somehow fits the whole ethos of the show. And the '90s, come to think of it: becoming so cynical that you just end up being in your own hell of bland nothingness. Edit: Oh, I was going to go on a South Park rant here but I saved that for the Very Special Episode stuff. I think South Park can be summed up like this: Trey and Matt were rich kids who grew up to be rich adults and successfully marketed their white libertarian bullshit views for twenty years. Don't buy any excuses from them about philosophy or politics because they mean nothing. It's all marketing. They're just two white rich dudes who now realize their twenty-year old money dispenser on Comedy Central maybe affected American life in a way that may actually affect their lives in an adverse way. They're chickening out on Trump not because of a lack of comic potential, they're doing it because they're partially responsible for their 'nothing matters LOL' political mentality bearing rotten fruit and that scares them because something did matter in the most horrible way possible. Gaunab posted:I know there are Law and Order episodes that didn't age well but I can't think of any specific ones at the moment. How about the SVU one where everybody is shocked that a guy can get raped by three women, and spend time just making GBS threads on him and trying to figure out if it works that way? Combined with American censorship on network TV, they had to find ways around the old 'but isn't getting hard considered consent' and 'but wouldn't a guy enjoy it' and all of that? Oh, and one of the women is a lawyer and cross-examines the guy on the stand and intimidates him and stuff. That whole thing was awkward as gently caress. Also, no, they didn't even try to consider that maybe the guy was sodomized with something by the women either. It was just heterosexual sex. Gaunab posted:I don't think this scene was played for laughs, just that the audience was uncomfortable with it. '70s TV was weird in the way it thought the medium could cover any issue, as if TV was an effective teaching tool. While All in the Family kinda gets a break from it due to it being a relatively new thing, it also did start the idea that 'Very Special Episodes' were effective and not paid PSAs for a show could get some free advertising and goodwill by parents groups and other right-wing orgs. Plus, as a child who grew up in the '80s, it's amazing just how strange a lot of those eps were since they often contrasted with everything else in the show. I couldn't take them seriously then and now I just see them as actors getting another paycheck for a lazy week of filming. Very Special Episodes ever aged well and tended to go rotten very quickly. Bright side is that they often are now very funny but for all the wrong reasons. Especially the Diff'rent Strokes one with Nancy Reagan when you consider most of the people on set (including Reagan herself) were on some heavy poo poo. I think the only one who wasn't was Conrad Bain, and I want to think he was eyeballing heroin or something so he didn't feel left out. Mad Doctor Cthulhu has a new favorite as of 18:43 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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bagshotrow posted:Oh hey, how about the really awkward fact that for the first four or five seasons of Archer their espionage agency was called ISIS? I haven't seen the most recent season, I imagine they must have had some kind of joke about this by now, but I imagine this will only get more awkward in later years when people go "wait, what year was it? did they name this after the other thing, or" For what it's worth, the writers shut down ISIS because of the rise of the Islamic State; they thought it was in poor taste to keep going with it, even after the international community largely settled on either "Islamic State" or "Daesh".
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Dunno if it's been mentioned but one episode I sometimes think about is the episode on South Park where the guy is frozen in like 96 and is thawed 2/3 years later
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Maybe I'm cutting them too much slack, but I can totally understand why Matt & Trey don't want to do a lot of Trump jokes on South Park anymore. They went all-in on that last season -- and about half-in the season before -- and it kind of backfired because they planned a whole story arc about him trying to lose the election, and then successfully losing... but then he actually won, and you could practically feel the wind coming out of their sails through the TV screen. It just felt so un-fun from that point on. Of course, they rarely stick to what they planned before the season, so they'll probably end up doing jokes about him anyway. Either way, the idea that they're scared of offending Trump supporters is pretty ridiculous, considering they had (an unnamed character who looked and acted exactly like) Trump get raped to death in the previous season. EDIT: To be fair -- and to use up one of my "I'm not sayings" which I realize are limited -- I'm not saying they shouldn't reevaluate the way they pick their targets and take a long hard look at how they might be negatively impacting political discourse. I just don't think it's necessarily cowardice to attempt to steer away from Trump bashing for one season after they've spent the better part of two seasons on it already. Sir Lemming has a new favorite as of 01:02 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Trey and Matt were rich kids who grew up to be rich adults and successfully marketed their white libertarian bullshit views for twenty years. did you just guess this in the hopes that that's what it was or what because they were both from modest backgrounds and were super big theater/performing nerds who were trying to make intentionally contrarian comedy from the age of something like 14. I don't disagree that they may have slowly realized that 'not giving a gently caress & being contrarian' does have adverse effects when people start taking it seriously but the idea of it being a libertarian conspiracy because they are Rich White Males® is bollocks.
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