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Aug 2, 2017 03:26
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I mean I think I could see Pera making a fake masonry where somber is just talking to her pretending to be bif I still don't know what to make of Max's thing about masonries either Pera did say she was loving with us from inside the house
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Aug 2, 2017 03:29
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I think I could see Pera making a fake masonry where somber is just talking to her pretending to be bif that seems... not impossible, but also really weird to make that kind of effort for something that would really gently caress with the game if it was a scumbo at least they could try and rolefish and push poo poo cases without giving away who was doing it
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Just caught up again and  Somberbrero posted:like not loving much! so it's like, what was the point of this? we kept missing each other with my work schedules. i'm checking back now. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that other_bif is Max (the only other person who seemed to know anything about masonries).
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Aug 2, 2017 03:33
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Max posted:OK well I'm not one to let a game just wallow into a barely noticable crawl because of something like flipless, so good or bad I'm just gonna claim: Did you learn of anything that might explain how Somber thinks he's in a masonry with bif but she denies it?
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Aug 2, 2017 03:42
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Jesus give me some credit.
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Aug 2, 2017 03:43
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Oh, no. Just that everyone should be in a masonry.
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Aug 2, 2017 03:44
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Jamuraan posted:I'm not trying to interject too much RL into this but I've been struggling with The silver lining to choking as bad as I did in FF5 is that I think I can see it when other people are going through similar stress trying to scum.  ##vote Jam for now. I'm going to sleep but look forward to figuring out what's up with that masonry.
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lately. I slept like 10 hours into the day after playing Civ 5 until 8am. I didn't reread anything from before today, sorry I lied and said I would. I'm not part of a masonry either and without any flips I really have no clue where to start. Like someone said, WIFOMing the kill probably won't lead to much.
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Max posted:Oh, no. Just that everyone should be in a masonry. How do you mean "should be in a masonry"? Is it like assessing the present situation (ie "I counted the money and it should all be in there") or recommending a future one (ie "we have all this money, we should go on vacation!")? Or is it phrased that way and the meaning is ambiguous?
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Aug 2, 2017 03:50
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It seems fairly definitive.
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Aug 2, 2017 03:54
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Murmur Twin posted:The silver lining to choking as bad as I did in FF5 is that I think I can see it when other people are going through similar stress trying to scum. just to be clear, you're saying that you believe Jam is doing the exact same thing as you in FF5? He's scum and just not up for engaging at all? I would be up for voting Jam, especially if he continues to lurk, but I still think something's going on with Hal and Nazgul/MT so MT's votes are giving me mad WIFOM. Asiina posted:Can't even call them false-Bif since Bif already has "faux" in her name. what about Fauxbifnen
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Well, if you are bi-faux-nen, then the fake is Tri-faux-nen, one more stage of faux As for the game ramifications of trifaux, I think I land with asiina. We should absolutely keep it in mind going forward, but until/unless someone slips and reveals themselves, it's not worth beating that horse. We have no way to determine alignment from what we have now
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Max you do see how that seems like it leads to you being Fauxbif? I'm not saying it definitely, but I feel like whoever Fauxbif is, they're scum. Unless it's para I guess?
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Aug 2, 2017 05:26
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Murmur Twin posted:The silver lining to choking as bad as I did in FF5 is that I think I can see it when other people are going through similar stress trying to scum. You read that entire post and decided he was scum without muster? Wouldn't he be more likely to replace out? I don't like this vote either.
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Aug 2, 2017 05:27
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Max posted:It seems fairly definitive. AND YET
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Aug 2, 2017 05:34
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Somber I demand that you demand an essay on Komaeda from Trifauxnen
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Aug 2, 2017 05:53
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All this is bizarre no doubt but it doesn't seem like it's really going to get anywhere
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Aug 2, 2017 05:56
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Sandwolf posted:You read that entire post and decided he was scum without muster? Wouldn't he be more likely to replace out? I don't like this vote either. I agree with this 100%. I was wanting to keep Betrayer around yesterday for purely personal reasons, not because I thought he had done anything particularly town. He had just been typical him. MMT got a lot of credit for coming and just being non-abrasive and posting at all but really she didn't offer all that much and the way she has jumped from me to Jam on very little today pings me That being said Jam not posting at all, while not out of character either, isn't doing anything to make me feel better than I did yesterday. Also I wish I was in a fake masonry
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Bifauxnen posted:Somber I demand that you demand an essay on Komaeda from Trifauxnen 
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im crashing. as lovely as today was, tomorrow looks worse because i have this dickhead manager from another city coming in town for an entire loving week. i'm try to check in again before deadline but if not i fully stand by my murmur vote. i''m really really trying not to spiral thinking about the mason thing but honestly i think if it's anyone it has to be murmur or maximillion. i just need to get that out there. or bif is just loving with me for reasons i don't understand.
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I think I could see Pera making a fake masonry where somber is just talking to her pretending to be bif peramene posted:per usual throw out your metas and general mafia assumptions because i am loving with you from the inside of the house That was one of the first places I went as well Hal. I don't know how close I am to believing it is a thing that's happening (currently I doubt that's the case, with a ...but...), but it is something I could see pera doing. I don't know why, other than sheer enjoyment, but I'm not ruling it out.
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Max posted:OK well I'm not one to let a game just wallow into a barely noticable crawl because of something like flipless, so good or bad I'm just gonna claim: peramene posted:SOMEBODY GOT POPPED Here's another oddity in Max's claim. Yes, Kyu got got n0, but there was no player attached to Kyu because there wasn't a real n0, also we had over the number of players pera wanted originally so it's not like Kyu was a character that didn't get a player. I'm not sure what to make of that either, but I wanted to point it out.
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Or wait, somber said he got a call n0. I officially don't loving know, but it's all kinda stupid and silly and awesome, in a slightly frustrating WTF sort of way
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Ok, last post in this chain of post-job catch up: In terms of who I actually would like to vote, I'm still on Jam and Hal. Hal has posted a decent amount today, but it has been content lite. It's been mostly what boils down to setup spec (talking about Max's everyone should be masons and somber's Trifaux Revelation which would be a sweet name for an old scifi dime novel). His most recent post throws light shade at Jam and MMT, the next two people I'm suspicious of. And there's one other post that brings up Jam. Jam, well, hasn't posted much today. A couple reassurances he isn't scum, and that's it. MMT I'm a little on the fence about, but she wouldn't be my choice today. That vote on Jam is a little shaky for D2 is the main thing. (Not for voting Jam, but the specific reason MMT gives). I'm currently viewing nazgul's breakdown/replacement as a breakdown and replacement, not some scum tell. MMT has at least been providing content outside setup spec. Nobody else has racked up sufficient suspicion points to appear in this post. You all are slacking. I'm a bit torn between wanting to vote Hal or Jam just now. I'm going to sleep on it, I think. I don't work tomorrow, so I should be around all day.
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One complete non-sequitur (at least from the Mafia point of view): since this game started I have acquired, played, and beaten Huniepop (unlocked but not actually played alpha mode, because I discovered there actually is a limit to my self loathing). And now, sleep time.
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Aug 2, 2017 11:02
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Mithross posted:Huniepop peramene posted:who is best girl
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Aug 2, 2017 11:15
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Sandwolf posted:Max you do see how that seems like it leads to you being Fauxbif? Not really. You all must think I play a terrible scum game if you think I'm playing Fauxbif and going in there with Somber and saying "gee wilikers, that Max guy sure is the towniest town that ever towned." while simultaneously blowing up my spot in the thread about the masonry stuff that I guess is mostly wrong.
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Here's a better question for Somber: Were you at any time talking to faux-Bif when they would reasonably be asleep.
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Warning for tonight, I'll be driving most of the evening up to a vacation house and won't be on hand for deadline
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I need to look at everyone again, but I'm not really feeling the MMT vote. Her mistaken vote on Hal didn't get an unvote, which I didn't like, but otherwise she's been fine? I don't see how her vote on Jam is bad at all and why Sandwolf and Hal have issues with it. Sandwolf posted:You read that entire post and decided he was scum without muster? Wouldn't he be more likely to replace out? I don't like this vote either. Why are you assuming someone will replace out in this situation? I agree with her that I've made similar giving up style posts when scum before too, so it doesn't seem impossible. Also looking back at her other votes, she came in with a vote on Jam so I don't get Hal's criticism that she's idly flipping. Really the only thing that's pinging me is that she didn't unvote, and that's not nearly enough for me to vote off of, so I don't want to vote for MMT today. I think Mithross is right about Hal, that he's participating but isn't saying a whole lot when he does. It's very cautious. I could get behind a Hal vote. I'm having feelings about Sandwolf though, so let me see if I can put a case together.
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Max posted:Not really. You all must think I play a terrible scum game if you think I'm playing Fauxbif and going in there with Somber and saying "gee wilikers, that Max guy sure is the towniest town that ever towned." while simultaneously blowing up my spot in the thread about the masonry stuff that I guess is mostly wrong. Nothing pings me harder than when someone says "man I'd be terrible scum if I did that" Granted this would be a complex plan to sow confusion but in a flipless game that strategy is much more viable. Also faking someone else in a masonry is a pretty pro move. Somber I can't find if you said this someplace, but did your original PM in the game say you were masons with bif specifically? I could see a N0 action being the ability to mason someone and pretend to be someone else, even if it isn't Max that did it. If someone did that and isn't admitting it at this point though I don't see how they aren't scum
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I wouldn't have given it the time of day if others hadn't brought it up as a possibility.
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Asiina posted:I need to look at everyone again, but I'm not really feeling the MMT vote. Her mistaken vote on Hal didn't get an unvote, which I didn't like, but otherwise she's been fine? I forgot she voted Jam to start the day so going back to him doesn't seem as bad in retrospect, but I still feel like the vote going back to jam was explained in a forced and awkward way which is why it bothered me in the first place
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Has jam even posted today? My phone is being a pain but I don't remember him saying anything. I would definitely vote Jam today, I feel like after being called out yesterday he's hiding today because he's scared scum. He's certainly posted plenty in another game so he definitely isn't just not around
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Max posted:I wouldn't have given it the time of day if others hadn't brought it up as a possibility. I do feel like I'm diving pretty deep to think someone would have such a nefarious plan but if anyone would try it I feel like it's you
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Hal Incandenza posted:Has jam even posted today? My phone is being a pain but I don't remember him saying anything. I would definitely vote Jam today, I feel like after being called out yesterday he's hiding today because he's scared scum. He's certainly posted plenty in another game so he definitely isn't just not around This is literally the point that MMT made and the post that you're saying you didn't like of hers is the one where she is quoting Jam, so I don't know how you don't know the answer to that. I feel like you're making up your cases, Hal. ##vote Hal
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Jamuraan posted:Been living my life, sorry for not being here and for not participating much, I'll try to get my top 3 leads. Oh right this is one of Jams two posts today and the post he made after didn't say anything either, I guess I see where MMT is coming from now. So maybe I was wrong about her
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Asiina posted:This is literally the point that MMT made and the post that you're saying you didn't like of hers is the one where she is quoting Jam, so I don't know how you don't know the answer to that. Haha guess you beat me too it. I'm still waking up so yeah maybe I'm being dumb but I'm not scum
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Anyway, I'm not feeling as strongly about my Sandwolf case upon review as it was in my head. I don't like how he was lurking until he was pushed on it. I remembered not liking this post: Sandwolf posted:Yeah sorry this flipless stuff has a learning curve. I keep rereading and feel all stilted ignoring all connections to and from Podima/Flam. The switch was because Betrayer replaced out and Flam had a case on him, so it made a lot of sense to me. Also without knowing Flam's alignment it feels weird to be throwing shade at the D1 lynch. I also don't really like the reasoning for his MMT vote, which I already talked about. None of these are particularly damning, but they still give me feelings. I think I'll stick with the Hal vote though.
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