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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Wouldn't any kind of fat significantly reduce the keeping power of hardtack and kind of defeat the point? I don't know about making it with fat, though I would assume you're right. That said, the only traditional meal I know of that uses hardtack is chopped fish (I think cod?) and shattered hardtack, boiled together and then mixed with fried pork fat. My grandfather (who is from extremely rural Newfoundland) ate it as a comfort food. Prism fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:Speaking of... You need salt pork to make a proper pasta sauce.
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:I'm in the US and I can go to the store and pick up salt pork whenever I want. Not so much. Steve1989, an MRE enthusiast actually ate Civil War hardtack and was unharmed. EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga5JrN9DrVI He is completely insane, albeit in a very nice and pleasant fashion, and eats stuff I wouldn't look at. Loved the "Mkay....Let's put that on the tray. NICE!" with an archaic tray and silverware. Samizdata fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Samizdata posted:Not so much. Steve1989, an MRE enthusiast actually ate Civil War hardtack and was unharmed. ...right, which to my knowledge should only be flour, water and if you're lucky, salt.
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Strangely the weirdest part of the video is Phil Collins' face watching me watch the guy eat a 152 year old army cracker
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Waci posted:Ham? Bacon? It isn't salt pork unless you have to soak it overnight to make it edible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdmPIpQZPRg
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Scratch Monkey posted:Strangely the weirdest part of the video is Phil Collins' face watching me watch the guy eat a 152 year old army cracker Lol if you don't have enrique wear a phil collins mask while you watch your other servant eat.
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Silver Alicorn posted:It isn't salt pork unless you have to soak it overnight to make it edible 
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Siivola posted:...I think I have a new favourite channel now. I'm really interested in their fried chicken recipe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyjNef2ydQ
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Silver Alicorn posted:It isn't salt pork unless you have to soak it overnight to make it edible This seems pretty much like the country ham you can get in the southeastern US. Contrast with city ham, usually just called ham, which is brined instead of salted. Usually you soak country ham too. (Sometimes people call it seasoning ham, and then it's usually tossed into beans, greens, and similar things.)
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Prism posted:I don't know about making it with fat, though I would assume you're right. That said, the only traditional meal I know of that uses hardtack is chopped fish (I think cod?) and shattered hardtack, boiled together and then mixed with fried pork fat. My grandfather (who is from extremely rural Newfoundland) ate it as a comfort food. Yeah, fish [salt cod] and brews. That's why the hard tack still exists OK so once upon a time to preserve fish you salted it, IE cure it in salt so you could ship it to Europe. Because this was such a big thing it became part of the local culture, which still eats salt fish on special occasions like Christmas. The fish is always cod, and you have to soak it in water for 24 hours to make it edible, and it is still p salty. I'm under the impression that some Caribbean cultures still have this sort of salt fish kicking around. Back in the day, trade between the Caribbean and Newfoundland was brisk (some sort of rum for fish sorta deal.) Both fish n' brews and the salt fish dinner are salty but otherwise bland; in my family they figured out a way to balance it a bit by serving it with partridgeberry salad. A partridgeberry goes by lots of names; the Scandinavians call them ligonberries. It's a lot like a cranberry (ie a tart, gritty berry that becomes nicer when jellied) and the salad is jello and apple chunks mixed with the berry, the sweetness leavening out the tartness a bit. Oh, and cod tongues. For some reason it's been tradition in Newfoundland for the tongues of cod to be fried up and served with fish. Neb does not like them, they are gummy and flavorless Silver Alicorn posted:It isn't salt pork unless you have to soak it overnight to make it edible QFT
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Siivola posted:...I think I have a new favourite channel now. It is pretty good.
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Nebakenezzer posted:I'm under the impression that some Caribbean cultures still have this sort of salt fish kicking around. Any bodega or Latino market worth its salt (  ) has bacalao. Big name-brand Goya often has it in the freezer section of "regular" supermarkets. I buy it to make brandade, which is a puree of (soaked) salt cod and olive oil, sometimes thickened with potatoes. It's a salty, inoffensively fishy, rich creamy dip, that seems like it should have dairy in it but it doesn't --- great for lactose intolerant folks. You dip some crusty bread in it and oh gently caress you thread now I gotta make brandade
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Any bodega or Latino market worth its salt ( Please post a recipe, I think I can enliven an entire Canadian province's cooking with it
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Nebakenezzer posted:Please post a recipe, I think I can enliven an entire Canadian province's cooking with it http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/10/brandade-salt-cod-spread-recipe.html It's good stuff.
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I found that channel when I was trying to learn about pemmican - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_vLuMobHCI Also "hardtack" which was known as ship's bisket before the 19th century: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyjcJUGuFVg
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Phanatic posted:http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/10/brandade-salt-cod-spread-recipe.html Thanks, gonna try this out
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When I think army food I think of yellow pea soup with pancakes. Served every Thursday in the mess halls all year around in Sweden and also out in the field. http://partaste.com/worldrecipes/artsoppa-swedish-yellow-pea-soup/ In the end while I was in could not eat it anymore and just gorged on the pancakes that are served with it as a side dish. Today I guess I could eat it since it has been years, it is nice with mustard.
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Siivola posted:...I think I have a new favourite channel now. If you enjoy Townsends English Heritage channel also has some Victorian recipes. for example mince pie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibLeVl9kPIQ
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Stupid question but some of the MRE meals I have have a 'best before' on them. Sealed wet meals. Will heat them thoroughly prior to eating. They'll still be okay, right? Talking a best before of june 2017.
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AFAIK they won't make you sick as long as they're still sealed and there's no swelling of the package, but the textures on certain things might be... off. A lot depends on the temperature they were stored at.
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There are idiots on youtube who eat MREs from the 80s, I'm sure it'll be fine a bit after the date.
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Yeah, if they were stored at a remotely sensible temperature, a month after the best by date is nothing.
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I've eaten 8 or 9-year-old MREs before. The only part that's guaranteed to not be edible by that point will be commercial packaged items like M&Ms or bottles of Tabasco. The actual retort pouched food items may look a little terrifying but are otherwise safe to eat as long as they were stored in a cool, dry place and kept sealed.
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I thought "best before" meant that the food was no longer as good as originally intended, not that it's necessary harmful, even for commercial products. I imagine stuff like M&Ms would last forever.
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Yeah, "best by" means exactly that. Probably safe to eat unless something has obviously turned. It's just assumed that people will have consumed it by the "best by" date.
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Ensign Expendable posted:I thought "best before" meant that the food was no longer as good as originally intended, not that it's necessary harmful, even for commercial products. I imagine stuff like M&Ms would last forever. M&Ms get chalky and weird a lot quicker than you'd think.
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Grand Fromage posted:There are idiots on youtube who eat MREs from the 80s, I'm sure it'll be fine a bit after the date. From the 40's and 50's even. Peanut butter, well sealed crackers, and cigarettes never go bad.
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Please don't eat food that is older than you, we are not experiencing a post apocalyptic life.
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Suspect Bucket posted:cigarettes never go bad.
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You should have smoked some pipe instead, it's free.
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 So I have this box laying around my house, I had 30 or so at one point but we ate 10 or so from camping and random snacking with my family and friends. Since we live in hurricane country these are nice to have around for emergency sake and they taste way better than what I remember from 12 years ago. I'll have to hit up my deployed buddies to see if they can bring a few more back home for me, maybe score some of the breakfast ones.
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Rythe posted:
Get the omelet if you can, that was legendary.
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:Please don't eat food that is older than you, we are not experiencing a post apocalyptic life.
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I picked up a few myself, living in an earthquake prone region they seem to be a good idea to have around.
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monster on a stick posted:Get the omelet if you can, that was legendary. They stopped making it years ago, so I would not recommend eating any that you can find.
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Russian MREs have a mascot.
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Of course it's kasha. 
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You guys have opinions on which MREs are the best? A recent large earthquake nearby has reminded me to finish stocking my earthquake kit and I'm going to pick some more up. Chinese MREs are godawful but I can get American ones on the internet no problem. The seller has every option so I just have to pick.
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