|
I'm so ready to build a Threadripper system. Someone want to buy a lightly-used i7-4770K?
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 02:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 18, 2024 15:39 |
|
|
As an addition to all the other updates re this in this thread, that guy updated with a note that the stress test is working fine other than the apparently-expected conftest segfaults. So it seems Epyc isn't susceptible to whatever the bug is on Ryzen. Wait for B2 Ryzen I guess
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 03:04
|
|
|
On newegg.ca the available threadripper motherboards are holy-poo poo expensive. sTR4 is the socket, right? Is there any other? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007624%20601301149
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 04:24
|
|
|
Volguus posted:On newegg.ca the available threadripper motherboards are holy-poo poo expensive. sTR4 is the socket, right? Is there any other? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007624%20601301149 It's not really that insane, HEDT motherboards are going to be more pricey due to more layers for the extra pcie channels, memory channels, etc. If you look at X99 mobos there are quite a few in the similar range and those have been on the market for quite some time. Gots to pay to play  One thing I am trying to figure out is if there are any differences I would care about between the ASRock boards.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 04:47
|
|
|
priznat posted:It's not really that insane, HEDT motherboards are going to be more pricey due to more layers for the extra pcie channels, memory channels, etc. X99 i can find in the $300 range. These ones are in the $500 range. Quite a jump. I guess these are the top on the pop for the platform and are aimed at those who can't wait. I hope there'll be a few cheaper down the road (october maybe?)
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 04:56
|
|
|
Volguus posted:X99 i can find in the $300 range. These ones are in the $500 range. Quite a jump. I guess these are the top on the pop for the platform and are aimed at those who can't wait. I hope there'll be a few cheaper down the road (october maybe?) Yes but there ~are~ X99 motherboards on newegg in the $500 range too. There's more of a price range because there are more X99 boards. Also the prices will probably come down as the designs get refined and cost-reduced.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 05:01
|
|
|
Volguus posted:On newegg.ca the available threadripper motherboards are holy-poo poo expensive. sTR4 is the socket, right? Is there any other? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007624%20601301149 The Asus board listed on newegg.ca is their top end board. They have also annouced a low(er) end board, but it looks like it won't be out until a couple of weeks after the Threadripper launch. priznat posted:One thing I am trying to figure out is if there are any differences I would care about between the ASRock boards. The main difference I can see is that the Fatal1ty board has a 10Gb ethernet port in addition to the two gigabit ports of the Taichi. When it comes to sound, the Taichi claims to support " Purity Sound™ 4" while the Fatal1ty instead supports "Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 3". Whatever that means.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 05:34
|
|
|
Drakhoran posted:The main difference I can see is that the Fatal1ty board has a 10Gb ethernet port in addition to the two gigabit ports of the Taichi. When it comes to sound, the Taichi claims to support " Purity Sound™ 4" while the Fatal1ty instead supports "Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 3". Whatever that means. Ah cool, I don't have a use for a 10GbE port right now so the Taichi would be fine. That and the 1900X is looking really tempting!
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 05:49
|
|
|
Malloc Voidstar posted:From the linustechtips video going live in a few hours: what a loving useless comparison. and are amd still doing the thing where the processor reports a temperature 30 degrees higher than what it actually is??? also anyone buying these high core count cpus for gaming should donate the money to charity or your local leftist political party or idk, drop it from a helicopter. your gaming experience will be affected about as much and you'll feel slightly better about yourself Drakhoran posted:The main difference I can see is that the Fatal1ty board has a 10Gb ethernet port in addition to the two gigabit ports of the Taichi. When it comes to sound, the Taichi claims to support " Purity Sound™ 4" while the Fatal1ty instead supports "Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 3". Whatever that means. it means that if you have the disposable income to buy a £300 motherboard and are torn between them based on the soundcard you have your priorities wrong. buy a usb soundcard at the very least Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Aug 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 08:11
|
|
|
Generic Monk posted:local leftist political party Don't think that would make me feel better.. But yes, testing a 16 core CPU paired with suboptimal RAM on gaming workloads isn't much more than a curiosity; we're balls deep in diminishing returns, or indeed regression. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Aug 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 08:49
|
|
|
Meh, I am getting a ThreadRipper anyway. Those gaming benchmarks are dumb as hell and don't really tell you anything. ( 4K WTF? ) Right now I am running a W3690 so the upgrade will be significant anyway, and that is not even regarding the core count. The Mac Pro I have is running SATA2, has no USB 3 and hobbles the bios when you run Windows. All in all the upgrade to NVMe, USB 3.1, faster RAM and a normal bios will make it worth it I guess.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 12:27
|
|
|
It is pretty weird that so few bother to do more extensive testing with different components. Like AMD or not, there are clearly some different results depending on game, graphics card, and even RAM.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 12:35
|
|
|
Mr Shiny Pants posted:Meh, I am getting a ThreadRipper anyway. Those gaming benchmarks are dumb as hell and don't really tell you anything. ( 4K WTF? ) Please post a build log when you get it. I'm waiting for Ryzen +.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 12:58
|
|
|
GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Please post a build log when you get it. I'm waiting for Ryzen +. I'll see what I can do. So all the talk of memory got me confused. Does it work with 3200 Mhz mem or faster? Or do I need to OC it for that to work. I really dislike overclocking my machine......
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 13:14
|
|
|
ufarn posted:It is pretty weird that so few bother to do more extensive testing with different components. Like AMD or not, there are clearly some different results depending on game, graphics card, and even RAM. If you watch the LTT video, they mention they couldn't do a full set of tests yet. It's a review of the Alienware, not a full teardown of the entire platform.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 13:21
|
|
|
The Dell AIO Ryzen 7 looks nice... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGpAfauCrdU ..but I'm rather cynical about the cooling.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 13:34
|
|
|
I just watched them installing a ThreadRipper, are they retarded or what?
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 13:46
|
|
|
I watched that video too. It started out so well, 'finally somebody who took the centre package out of the foam blocks before turning the handle and hence not dropping the CPU oon the floor" but it went downhill from there.
Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Aug 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 13:52
|
|
ufarn posted:It is pretty weird that so few bother to do more extensive testing with different components. Like AMD or not, there are clearly some different results depending on game, graphics card, and even RAM. That would delay the reviews greatly. People tend to underestimate how long it takes to just do the benchmarks for a review but it can take a week or more of nothing but running benchmarks to get a reasonably accurate picture of how each tested configuration performs, especially with some of the benchmarks having dumb quirks like results getting worse with each consecutive run without a reboot and other fun stuff that adds a lot of extra time to the testing.
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 13:55
|
|
|
Generic Monk posted:also anyone buying Since I know you post in the Mac thread, there, I fixed that for you. Yeah, Threadripper might not be the best option (yet) for gaming, but it falls into that same category as a lot of other hardware that people spend far more than they need to for the intended purposes. Look at Apple's accounting books and all that money that could be going to leftist parties!!!
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 15:55
|
|
|
HalloKitty posted:Don't think that would make me feel better.. excepting the khmer rouge or something lmao SourKraut posted:Since I know you post in the Mac thread, there, I fixed that for you. Yeah, Threadripper might not be the best option (yet) for gaming, but it falls into that same category as a lot of other hardware that people spend far more than they need to for the intended purposes. Look at Apple's accounting books and all that money that could be going to leftist parties!!! tim cook seems to be pitching the defining aspect of his tenure at apple to be the tax-free repatriation of apple's loving medieval hoard of overseas profits to be paid as dividends rather than to clothe, feed and educate the destitute in his country. gently caress him. would literally be a better use of money to use that poo poo to build the border wall, at least it might create some jobs anyway a mac is a demonstrably nicer experience than competitors for general usage and productivity rather than being measurably worse so i don't understand your analogy Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Aug 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 15:55
|
|
|
turn left, amd thread, nooooooooo...!
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 17:40
|
|
|
WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:turn left, amd thread, nooooooooo...! But it is turning left 
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 17:44
|
|
|
WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:turn left, amd thread, nooooooooo...! Eat the rich.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 17:44
|
|
|
Generic Monk posted:anyway a mac is a demonstrably nicer experience than competitors for general usage and productivity rather than being measurably worse so i don't understand your analogy The "analogy" was really just to point out how ridiculous your statement was, but if you meant it 100% as a joke, cool. Threadripper is not "measurably" worse any more than Macs are "demonstrably better" at general usage. Once Safari/Firefox/etc. is open and Joe Casual is reading Facebook or once Excel or Word is open, he will literally not be able to see any demonstratable difference between a $1000 Lenovo (with superior specs) or a $1800 rMBP besides that his porn might look a little better on the Retina display. Guess he should have donated that $800 to a leftist party! WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:turn left, amd thread, nooooooooo...! Don't worry, that's my last response to the derail.
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 17:52
|
|
|
FaustianQ posted:But it is turning left Underrated post
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 17:57
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RMbYe4X2LI
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 18:25
|
|
|
See, you can't have too many cores. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 20:20
|
|
Combat Pretzel posted:
That's not very nice  all he wants to do is find life
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 6, 2017 20:26
|
|
|
Mr Shiny Pants posted:I'll see what I can do. So all the talk of memory got me confused. Does it work with 3200 Mhz mem or faster? Or do I need to OC it for that to work. I really dislike overclocking my machine...... If someone would be so kind to answer this, I would be much obliged. If the CPU takes ECC, do I still need to figure out if the Mobo supports it? God, it's been ages building my own system........
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 11:46
|
|
|
that guy's accent bewilders me. It's like he's a Dutchman who has lived in Brighton for the past 20 years.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 12:17
|
|
|
SwissArmyDruid posted:that guy's accent bewilders me. It's like he's a Dutchman who has lived in Brighton for the past 20 years.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 12:38
|
|
|
ufarn posted:Isn't that just his rhotacism being extremely strong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld3A3QCpXd4
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 12:48
|
|
|
Mr Shiny Pants posted:If someone would be so kind to answer this, I would be much obliged. Yes, the motherboard would need to support ECC RAM for you to use it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 13:41
|
|
|
Mr Shiny Pants posted:If someone would be so kind to answer this, I would be much obliged. Yeah, even with integrated memory controllers there's usually some kind of hook required in the chipset to make it work - at least with Intel. I've put a Xeon L5520 in an X58 board and an X3440 in a P55 board and in both cases, the processor supports ECC but there's just no way to enable it even with the right DIMMs inserted. I feel like with Ryzen there were some consumer boards (from ASUS, at least?) which had the ability to run in ECC mode, but I don't know how common a feature it is. AMD's official position is that the feature hasn't gone through full validation testing like it would on server chips but as far as they're aware there shouldn't be any problems with a board that supports it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 15:29
|
|
|
quite the glue http://ranker.sisoftware.net/top_run.php?q=c2ffc9ef82efd2e2c4b68bbb9df4c9f8deb68bbe98e0ddeccaafcaf7c7e192af9f&l=en
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 15:34
|
|
|
lol when people do poo poo like this
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 16:24
|
|
|
Look at that performance difference! Definitely use this slide during the marketing presentation.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 16:32
|
|
|
Whoever made that should not be allowed science anymore. Oh my god it's graded in half-fps steps.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 16:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 18, 2024 15:39 |
|
|
shrike82 posted:lol when people do poo poo like this Lol, holy poo poo where is that from?
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 16:37
|
|