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KakerMix posted:
 I want a Z20 with the 7M-GTE so freaking bad.Edit: 
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that generation of soarer looks extremely badass
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Aug 5, 2017 23:39
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gimpsuitjones posted:that generation of soarer looks extremely badass I'm just searching and searching and waiting for an AeroCabin to come up. 500 made, so even rarer than the UZZ32. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd09AfnOGGI Edit: 11-ish minutes in. The warning buzzer is  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wiZ6wcOJWY Pomp and Circumcized fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Aug 6, 2017 00:00
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Rhyno posted:Yech. Those are uggo. Kaker I would be very interested to see pricing on the Suzuki Alto Works. I have the go ahead for the car purchase in April, maybe this is what I need to scratch the itch? If you are waiting till April then you get potentially more choices as more of them become US-legal. Digging around some more to differentiate between the models. The only one with AWD is the RS/R, there is also the 2WD RS/X and a standard 2WD Turbo depending on the year. All of the 2WD versions are front wheel drive. None currently at auction though that changes daily. Nine total have come up for auction in the last three months and only 3 of them would I have considered bidding on. The two that I've been interested in have both had oil leaks. There are currently 8 for sale at various dealerships (that I can see, anyway) in Japan and assuming they will sell wholesale 4 that look good enough to bother importing. Prices on the dealer ones will be higher because they are meant for domestic sale and are expected to be able to pass inspection upon being registered by the new owner. This means generally you can expect them to be in better shape than one going to auction that might be there because it won't pass inspection. I suspect this is why my Hijet was auctioned off, it needed to have it's oil leak fixed. So for prices: ??? If you can I'd set aside $10k for a clean, unmolested one. Depends on the quality you want though. I like stuff close to stock and unmolested as possible but I don't care too much about mileage. Sometimes a nice taken-care-of but higher mileage car will show up that would be worth it, other times a low mileage one with a bunch of stupid tacky crap like a big rear end recaro seat for the driver and a crystal or screwdriver handle stick shift with three turbo gauges screwed into the dash and the front wheels stanced out with a 2-liter-sized exhaust popping out the back. And they'll want too much money for it.
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Aug 6, 2017 02:00
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KakerMix posted:If you can I'd set aside $10k for a clean, unmolested one. Dealer says "Here you go, this just came in. I'm taking money out my own pocket, frankly, but for you, $10k."
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Aug 6, 2017 02:35
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DogonCrook posted:E:holy poo poo not only are these rare now they are going for 15k IDK what kind of universe you're living in, but unmolested Starquests are going for under 8 all day, and under 3 for ones that have something like the front air dam missing, because some parts are unobtainium. I could see an all original #'s with the rare louvers, a perfect interior, and a perfect service history going for >10k, but yeah anyone asking 15k is out of their loving mind and are not going to sell it with any speed. spookykid fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 6, 2017 06:02
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Dannywilson posted:IDK what kind of universe you're living in, but unmolested Starquests are going for under 8 all day, and under 3 for ones that have something like the front air dam missing, because some parts are unobtainium. I could see an all original #'s with the rare lovers, a perfect interior, and a perfect service history going for >10k, but yeah anyone asking 15k is out of their loving mind and are not going to sell it with any speed. I just did a quick search and nothing popped up at all on autotrader. They only 2 i could find for sale were both 15k listed. They did look like really clean examples. Im sure you could find a better deal but its slim pickings.
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Aug 6, 2017 07:14
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DogonCrook posted:Yeah that reminds me i have always wanted a widebody starion They Aren't Hard To Find.
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Aug 7, 2017 04:16
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Between a buddy of mine and myself, we've managed to buy three in the last nine months for roughly $3500 total for the three of them. Granted, one is a solid runner, one is being turned into a 1UZ drift/racecar, and the third is being use primarily as a running donor for the other two, but yeah, Starquests are fuckin cool, and I wish more people would appreciate them. That's the SHP equipped runner out in the first Appalachian snow, right near the Blue Ridge Parkway back in January, right after a 700 mile roadtrip to Myrtle Beach and back. Yeah, she's got a bent bumper and trashed seats, but she looks pretty good, no?
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Aug 7, 2017 04:47
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Dannywilson posted:Between a buddy of mine and myself, we've managed to buy three in the last nine months for roughly $3500 total for the three of them. Granted, one is a solid runner, one is being turned into a 1UZ drift/racecar, and the third is being use primarily as a running donor for the other two, but yeah, Starquests are fuckin cool, and I wish more people would appreciate them. Some day I'll probably get my hands on a '88 or '89 and stick at 4G63T in to it. But probably not until after I get the Talon running, get the totaled one parted out and the chassis hauled off, and probably at least get a different 4-door and say goodbye to the Saturn.
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Aug 7, 2017 05:05
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Got a few leads. A 1983 Honda Acty van, one owner, with AC. Waiting for some larger pictures but otherwise   1985 Suzuki Every  1981 Daihatsu Hijet that's been 'tastefully' modded. So goofy looking but still rad. I just loving LOVE vans.  1984 Daihatsu Hijet Jumbo with all it's decals.  1989 Suzuki Alto Works RS/X. Unmolested.  1992 Subaru Vivo RX-R. SUPERCHARGED. This thing has actual rally pedigree but style-wise does nothing for me. I guess it was claimed to be under the 64hp limit but it actually was much higher. Gosh now reading up on the thing maybe I should get it 
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Aug 7, 2017 08:23
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How "substantially similar" does a vehicle need to be in order to avoid the 25 year moratorium on import or having to wreck three of them? I mean, I'm pretty sure a Legnum is out since I don't think US ever got a Galant wagon, but what about an Evo Sportback? US market basically just got one that's one trim line down, and the important bits for DOT have US equivalents.
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Aug 7, 2017 09:09
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MikeyTsi posted:How "substantially similar" does a vehicle need to be in order to avoid the 25 year moratorium on import or having to wreck three of them? I mean, I'm pretty sure a Legnum is out since I don't think US ever got a Galant wagon, but what about an Evo Sportback? US market basically just got one that's one trim line down, and the important bits for DOT have US equivalents. From everything I've seen it is pretty strict. Body panels different? Different car. Steering wheel on the other side? Different car. The whole thing is a protection scheme for US domestic manufactures and it's built to make it hard to get a car that's under 25 years old into the country.
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Aug 7, 2017 09:20
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MikeyTsi posted:How "substantially similar" does a vehicle need to be in order to avoid the 25 year moratorium on import or having to wreck three of them? I mean, I'm pretty sure a Legnum is out since I don't think US ever got a Galant wagon, but what about an Evo Sportback? US market basically just got one that's one trim line down, and the important bits for DOT have US equivalents. You would need the manufacturer to give you 2 sheets of paper, one saying the safety equipment is identical to the American model, and one saying the emissions equipment is identical to the American model. I have seen RHD toyota cavileers in the US, but i'm pretty sure that's just a lot of vinfuckery.
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Aug 7, 2017 09:25
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KakerMix posted:*Special mention for California here. California has strict pollution requirements for all vehicles. I’m not exactly familiar with why imported cars tend to have a hard time with Carb outside of ‘doesn’t meet the requirements’ so someone else can explain why, but it means that most kei vehicles at least are not state legal in California even though they are federally legal in the greater United States. I’ve seen a few people obtain exemptions from California to legalize their imported vehicles but it seems like that’s the exception rather than the rule. The issue with California is that direct import vehicles have to pass FTP (federal test procedure) driving cycles, just like a manufacturer does type certifying a vehicle. The testing is several thousand dollars by itself, without considering modifications to bring the vehicle into conformance. For an R32 GTR it costs something like 12-15k to modify and certify as CARB legal, which completely destroys the value of the car, you could be looking at 40k for an r32 skyline and you can buy much faster cars for 40k I was quite set on getting an R32 GTR, the performance and buildability is difficult to beat at even the inflated 20-25k you can get a decent one for now, but when I weighed up the hassle and uncertainty of having to register out of state or paying close to 40k for a 25 year old car, even one as cool and evocative, I decided against it and bought a 911 turbo instead.
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Aug 7, 2017 11:57
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:
Car yes, engine no. Unless you like taking engines to bits to install head gaskets and ARPs*... A friend has purchased 2 spare 7Ms and I'm toying with the idea of buying one and rebuilding it so it's bulletproof (mine burns oil) or just go all out and swap for a 2JZ/1UZ. *ignore if this has been done already, the bottom ends are beefy and will take abuse but won't stand running low on oil at all. Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 12:37
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Car yes, engine no. Unless you like taking engines to bits to install head gaskets and ARPs*... A friend has purchased 2 spare 7Ms and I'm toying with the idea of buying one and rebuilding it so it's bulletproof (mine burns oil) or just go all out and swap for a 2JZ/1UZ. That's OK, I'd be so terrified of getting it wrecked that it would just live in my garage forever.  Edit, and yeah, 1/2JZ is the obvious swap for these cars. Don't need to go changing the turbo I6 for a V8.
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Aug 7, 2017 12:56
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Built 7Ms respond well to an Accusump if you are planning on giving it the beans. As for R32 GTRs I think I have touched on this before but I plan to wait for a bunch to make it to the US and the engines to go boom, because the RB26 is not super reliable imo, then buy a replacement short block from RIPS in New Zealand as then I get the car I want for less than market and I get to know that it was rebuilt by some of the best out there. If anyone is really interested in one tho feel free to drop me a PM so I can give you the low down on what to check out.
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Aug 7, 2017 13:18
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I want an R32 GTR but not at 25k. A shame cause I'll prob never get to own one but I'll just remind myself they are heavy and I probably won't like it as much as I think I will. That's how that works right Just gotta find an FD or an NSX some day and I won't care about never owning a GTR
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Aug 7, 2017 14:14
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R32 GTRs were down under 10 grand here at one point. then they all got crashed/blowed up.
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Aug 7, 2017 14:31
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Nodoze posted:I want an R32 GTR but not at 25k. A shame cause I'll prob never get to own one but I'll just remind myself they are heavy and I probably won't like it as much as I think I will. That's how that works right What's the exchange rate like? A friend here in the UK has an ~800bhp R32 GTR up for that amount in £££... Car is a loving monster but I'd turn down the boost personally, it's just silly.
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Aug 7, 2017 16:36
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Nodoze posted:I want an R32 GTR but not at 25k. A shame cause I'll prob never get to own one but I'll just remind myself they are heavy and I probably won't like it as much as I think I will. That's how that works right I've ridden in a few back in the early 90's and tbh I was way more impressed with the Pulsar at the time. It was light and nimble and handled incredibly, plus it was the coolest hot hatch I had ever seen. The skylines were heavy and you felt it. It sounds dumb to me now because of how popular the r32 is, but at that time they were like the Mustang of Japan, and the turbo RX7's were the Camaros, drag racing all the time so they were no big deal. I just don't see them as anything special because of that I guess. If I was going to spend that kind of coin on a Japanese import I'd get 70's Skyline or a Panda or something. Or do what that other guy did and buy a 911 turbo. [e] Hey Kaker, is there a way to see past sales like on ebay? I'd like to see what the average selling price is for one of those Mitsu Jeeps. Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 17:30
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Olympic Mathlete posted:What's the exchange rate like? A friend here in the UK has an ~800bhp R32 GTR up for that amount in £££... It is what 1.2 $ to the £ right now? Applebees Appetizer posted:I've ridden in a few back in the early 90's and tbh I was way more impressed with the Pulsar at the time. It was light and nimble and handled incredibly, plus it was the coolest hot hatch I had ever seen. The skylines were heavy and you felt it. It sounds dumb to me now because of how popular the r32 is, but at that time they were like the Mustang of Japan, and the turbo RX7's were the Camaros, drag racing all the time so they were no big deal. The Pulsar GTIR is great and I want one for Autocross, the GTR is more of a GT car and dominated in those kind of classes but compared to other cars you could use is too long and too heavy, I wouldn't autocross a GTR but something like One Lap of America when you are coming up against other GT type cars it would be great. I need to stop jumping into GTR chat tho before I start to sound like a mustang guy or something
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Aug 7, 2017 18:02
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astropika posted:The issue with California is that direct import vehicles have to pass FTP (federal test procedure) driving cycles, just like a manufacturer does type certifying a vehicle. The testing is several thousand dollars by itself, without considering modifications to bring the vehicle into conformance.  That sucks considering there will be a 1973 VW just belching out all sorts of particulates. Would be nice if imported vehicles, as long as factory-stock, would be exempt as well, the amount of them vs. everything else surely wouldn't make a difference. Added this to the op and sliced my bit out. Thank you! Got some better pictures back on that old Honda Street. The rust is super minor and I might go for it anyway, it's just too unique and the interior is aces.              RUST      EDIT In crusiing craigslist as I do I am seeing more and more fly-by-night types of importers. Lots of 'GOT A BUNCH OF THEM JAP TRUX IN GOT 4 (all are in poo poo condition) REGISTER THEM URSELF'. The amount of automatics people are trying to sell lets me know that they are jumping the gun on auctions. Tsk tsk.  https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ctd/d/1994-toyota-supra-na-five/6238522943.html This person doesn't know anything beyond 'Supra = $$$' and this is an NA one, RHD, and a 94 so you can't actually drive it on the road. They know this at least and say as much in the add but the stick on vents why. 18k. KakerMix fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 18:09
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Will these cars ever qualify as classic? Like if you bring over something from the 70's can you register it as an antique or classic? Sorry if you mentioned this already i dont remember.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:22
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DogonCrook posted:Will these cars ever qualify as classic? Like if you bring over something from the 70's can you register it as an antique or classic? Sorry if you mentioned this already i dont remember. Sure, why not?
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Aug 7, 2017 18:23
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Varies state to state but most of them say the year of manufacture so you should be fine.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:26
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It would suck if they were excluded i was just curious if it allowed for that. The california carb registration is weird to me. I guess it makes sense on a car from the 90's but it really doesnt if its from the 80's. Kinda sucks.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:33
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DogonCrook posted:Will these cars ever qualify as classic? Like if you bring over something from the 70's can you register it as an antique or classic? Sorry if you mentioned this already i dont remember. I had an E30 registered like this.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:34
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DogonCrook posted:It would suck if they were excluded i was just curious if it allowed for that. The california carb registration is weird to me. I guess it makes sense on a car from the 90's but it really doesnt if its from the 80's. Kinda sucks. Yeah it does suck. It does vary from state to state, for instance Florida requires 30 years rather than 25 like most before you can get classic plates. I guess they figure cars last longer here so pushed the requirement up 5 years. Otherwise I couldn't imagine a situation where you legally import a vehicle under the 25 year rule and not qualify for classic registration/plates. The only time I can see that being an issue is if the car is here under false pretenses (registered as a kit car or something) and if that's the case you've already went down that road.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:36
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Man, look at this I have a mighty need
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Aug 7, 2017 18:40
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Rhyno posted:Man, look at this RS/Z didn't go on sale till 1994 
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Aug 7, 2017 18:42
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KakerMix posted:RS/Z didn't go on sale till 1994 I can wait, that's like 18 months. Have you seen any of those for sale?
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Aug 7, 2017 18:43
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Yeah a lot of 70's cars with fuel injection only get saved because they can slap a carb on there instead. If thats not an option a lot are going to get junked with an ecu failure. Its a shame this isnt tied to oem part availability.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:46
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Rhyno posted:I can wait, that's like 18 months. Have you seen any of those for sale? I've never looked. I cap all my searches at 1992 I looked real quick and there is one (1) for sale on a lot in Japan at the moment and they want close to $8k USD for it, I assume it's cherry. Factor in the costs for getting it here and you are over that 10k budget I suggested. Might be one that comes up at auction and a year and some change is a lot of time for stock to cycle.
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Aug 7, 2017 18:50
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Well like I said, I'm patient and won't be actively looking to scratch that itch until April. Edit: Yes I know april is only 2018, I'm saying I won't even be actively looking for the new fun toy until then. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 18:55
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I have no knowledge about cars but this is a rad thread. Kei cars are awesome. I'm very sad that nissan cubes are no longer available, they were the closest thing to a kei in the UK.
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Aug 7, 2017 21:16
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DogonCrook posted:It would suck if they were excluded i was just curious if it allowed for that. The california carb registration is weird to me. I guess it makes sense on a car from the 90's but it really doesnt if its from the 80's. Kinda sucks. Pre-75 is exempt from emissions... sort of... they like to gently caress with grey market vehicles 68-75 claiming it has to meet whatever EPA standards existed at the time, I gather they only started doing it in the last decade, I found out because of angry unimog owners. Originally it was a rolling 25 year exemption, but they decided to freeze it in 1991 because it turns out cars never die in CA. There is nothing that california likes more than to tighten the screws on people with minority interests which are politically unacceptable  .
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Aug 7, 2017 21:54
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astropika posted:Pre-75 is exempt from emissions... sort of Pre-76. '75 is an exempt year. Too bad they're loving with imports that would be otherwise exempt, too. I've heard that some people were getting into trouble recently for engine swaps in those years, too, for the same reason, although I don't trust the guy who told me that.
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BigPaddy posted:The Pulsar GTIR is great and I want one for Autocross
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