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TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Oxyclean posted:

imo ban all anime posts because creepy anime porn is a thing that exists.

only meme posts in my splatverse.

Needs more Franku tbh

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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I can only really play after 8:30pm (after the kid goes to bed) and tonight has just been full of fun lag deaths.

Oh wait, did I say fun? I must be tired from all the squids running through me, shooting at the wall, and then me dying despite me loading my clip into their back.

Also one dude kept one-shotting me with the Tentatek Splattershot which left me scratching my head because I'm pretty sure that the gun doesn't do enough damage to OHKO?

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Aug 8, 2017

rogue wave
Jul 12, 2005

I GOT CRABBY ABOUT PHONE GAMING
I straight up admitted I sucked. I have more losses than victories and I was often last or second to last for a shitload of matches. I only just recently turned it around but I'm still paying for it. Keep on generalizing though.

rogue wave fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Aug 8, 2017

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
That's what I was getting at.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Zelder posted:

I hope I never stop reading posts about how every single random player is dumber than the writer. Imagine that, the game match made 7 complete loving chowder heads and somehow accidentally threw the single good player in all of splatoon into that match

I'm the guy in the OP

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Ok I've now been sitting here for a minute and a half with a full lobby and not going to a round, that plus the other issues I'm having tonight suggests that maybe something is going wrong with the servers.

[Edit: the lobby just cleared and then reloaded with just me, then communication errored out.]

rogue wave
Jul 12, 2005

I GOT CRABBY ABOUT PHONE GAMING
It's a peer to peer game isn't it?

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Amppelix posted:

It feels like you have to get to A rank before you consistently match with people who actually know what they're doing. I had a rainmaker match earlier (at B rank) that was a whole trainwreck where I'm pretty sure I was the only player who knew the rules of the mode. One guy grabbed it and no joke stalled out the timer on their side of the map, taking potshots at us until he died to the explosion. Others at least seemed aware that the rainmaker should be brought vaguely towards enemy base but at least one of my teammates, when presented with a clear opportunity to win, chose to hang around the goal and go for a couple of splats with the big gun.

What I'm saying here is splatoon bumps people up to B- way too easily. C should be the rank where you learn the ropes.

Stupid plays happen at all levels, not just the lower ones. People make mistakes after all. Also if you're wondering why you're constantly getting stuck with "people who don't know what they're doing", you might want to look in a mirror sometime.

Araxxor fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Aug 8, 2017

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Lakbay posted:

It looks like swim speed up is not very good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10PTWFDGOo

Well yeah there’s no kraken.

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

rogue wave posted:

I straight up admitted I sucked. I have more losses than victories and I was often last or second to last for a shitload of matches. I only just recently turned it around but I'm still paying for it. Keep on generalizing though.

I wasn't talking about you

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Look, the point is not that these people lack skill or that I am better than them (i would love to be the one with the most splats in these matches but that is unfortunately not true), but that they clearly don't know how the game mode works and make stupid decisions because of it. And people shouldn't be able to get out of C rank without knowing the rules.

Maybe the actual lesson here is it'd be cool if the game modes were explained at all outside of a not very obviously presented help menu.

Zeruel
Mar 27, 2010

Alert: bad post spotted.
Me unga https://twitter.com/doctagon_/status/888969087656775680
Team bunga

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

Getting irrationally irked by the unpatched Moog modular synth on the rear left side there

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.
If a person somehow got lucky enough to get carried out of their proper rank, matchmaking will eventually knock them back down. The matchmaking system is fine. And if they somehow got up there themselves, then they're doing something right at the very least. Or someone else is playing on that account, they're having a very off day, or whatever. You can't really say who belongs in each rank just based off of how they play in a single match.

I do agree about the tutorial part given that the rulesets are considerably different from Turf Wars, but the only one that would really need to be explained is Rainmaker. (Doesn't help the NA version of the game says "make it rain" instead of explaining that you need to reach the enemy goal.) But for the most part, the rules are pretty intuitive.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's super easy to create a new account on the Switch, right?

I double dog dare any of the goons here who are saying git gud to create a smurf account and slum it down in C rank for a bit and then still come back saying "the problem is 100% you"

Because it's not. It was easy for you to rise because you got the game release day, poopsocked it to level 10, played through C and B with other poopsockers like yourself who know how to play the game because you all poured 100+ into Splatoon 1. Meanwhile, the players who were/are bad at the game that were at C when you spend through ranked are still down here in C, making GBS threads it up for the rest of us who took our time getting to level 10.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Aug 8, 2017

rogue wave
Jul 12, 2005

I GOT CRABBY ABOUT PHONE GAMING

Zelder posted:

I wasn't talking about you

Sorry for being paranoid. I could just see how someone could read my post that way and it came right after.


I also agree that regardless of anything else, it should explain the game mode rules at least once without specifically seeking them out. Hell, maybe even show it every time you attempt a c- match for the first time that session and again after five losses.

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

rogue wave posted:

I feel pretty good about packing the .52 with both last ditch effort and the the opposite one that gives boosts during the first 30 seconds as well. I also have ninja, jump speed increase, bomb defense, ink resistance, faster ink refill, more special damage, quick recovery, fast running , less loss of special when splat, and fast swim at level 16. I actually have the next few weapons, including the tri-slosh but don't like it as much. I used a couple of snails to add more to the best gear I had already rolled.

I guess I just need to hone in my skills more overall. Can't wait to get a better ranking. Is there someway they can force dumbasses to at least read the objective rules? It's very clear a large percentage of players don't want ever bother to. I'm not very good,but have gone from being one of the worst to consistently being the top team member whether winning or losing.

The tri-slosh is objectively better than the .52 in every way - it hits further away, does more damage, and kills faster if you combine the burst bomb + the primary fire - the burst bomb is what really pushes it over the edge, land that plus the slosh and it's lights out.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

lelandjs posted:

It's super easy to create a new account on the Switch, right?

I double dog dare any of the goons here who are saying git gud to create a smurf account and slum it down in C rank for a bit and then still come back saying "the problem is 100% you"

Because it's not. It was easy for you to rise because you got the game release day, poopsocked it to level 10, played through C and B with other poopsockers like yourself who know how to play the game because you all poured 100+ into Splatoon 1. Meanwhile, the players who were/are bad at the game that were at C when you spend through ranked are still down here in C, making GBS threads it up for the rest of us.

I didn't touch ranked for like a week and a half because I was doing single player and also obsessed with Salmon Run. Even after I hit 10 I barely played it just because I didn't feel like playing it without a tolerable set of gear to work with. I only started really getting into it recently.

The only mode I had trouble getting out of C was Rainmaker, which makes sense since its harder to carry in that mode than any other. You either take the Rainmaker and have to rely on your team to protect you or you let one of them hold it and pray they aren't an idiot. In every other mode its really easy to have a big enough impact that you can rocket out of C ranks with ease if you know what you're doing.

Unless you're topping the scoreboard by a significant margin in literally every game, you're not being held back by pubs.

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

The tri-slosh is objectively better than the .52 in every way - it hits further away, does more damage, and kills faster if you combine the burst bomb + the primary fire - the burst bomb is what really pushes it over the edge, land that plus the slosh and it's lights out.

Yeah but the tri-slosh is objectively better than most weapons.

The Gorp
Jan 7, 2013

My style is impetuous,
My defenses are impregnable
My arms are tired
How about we leave the tri-slosher as is, but give it an ink-wall sub and the stingray super.
"Okay you can have the best weapon in the game but like hell you're getting anything good to go with it."

rogue wave
Jul 12, 2005

I GOT CRABBY ABOUT PHONE GAMING
One of the main reasons I've been using the .52 in Turf War is because I end up dying a lot less. Whenever someone starts shooting me, I now end up killing them first a large percentage of the time. The less coverage for ink issue is something I have been dealing with okay, but the largest drawback of all for sure isn't range, as far as I can tell, but it is my sub weapon. The ball thing as my super is really fun and effective, but I'm almost training myself to avoid subs because the mist maker is so janky or I'm just not utilizing it correctly. I can definitely see how tri-Slosh would be better in ranked. I've only played a handful of ranked matches though and that's where I experienced my frustrations. I should really just throw myself in and see where it balances out before changing poo poo up just so I know where I currently stand and then try to branch out and diversify.

rogue wave fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Aug 8, 2017

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

The Bloop posted:

I'm the guy in the OP

same

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

lelandjs posted:

It's super easy to create a new account on the Switch, right?

I double dog dare any of the goons here who are saying git gud to create a smurf account and slum it down in C rank for a bit and then still come back saying "the problem is 100% you"

Because it's not. It was easy for you to rise because you got the game release day, poopsocked it to level 10, played through C and B with other poopsockers like yourself who know how to play the game because you all poured 100+ into Splatoon 1. Meanwhile, the players who were/are bad at the game that were at C when you spend through ranked are still down here in C, making GBS threads it up for the rest of us who took our time getting to level 10.

Even if this is right then worst case scenario there's four idiots on the other team and three on yours

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Been catching up on Splatoon 2 news. Is there any reason to get excited over the Octoling file?

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
Trying out the Splash-o-matic, I don't think this gun is very good. I have really fond memories liking it a lot in Splatoon 1 not sure why though as I got Max Level in that game and didn't take it seriously past that. Its accuracy is nice but I don't see the advantage considering it's Two Lines of range. It also has mist which isn't as useful as burst bombs. Am I missing anything?

JackDarko fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Aug 8, 2017

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

JackDarko posted:

Trying out the Splash-o-matic, I don't think this gun is very good. I have really fond memories liking it a lot in Splatoon 1not sure why though as I got Max Level in that game and didn't take it seriously past that. It's accuracy is nice but I don't see the advantage considering it's Two Lines of range. It also has mist which isn't as usefull as burst bombs. Am I missing anything?

No I think most people would agree that it isn't very good. Toxic mist is a sub you need good range to take advantage of. I don't get why its range is so short when its stats aren't very impressive compared to other guns. The stupid aerospray goes further than it.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

lelandjs posted:

It's super easy to create a new account on the Switch, right?

I double dog dare any of the goons here who are saying git gud to create a smurf account and slum it down in C rank for a bit and then still come back saying "the problem is 100% you"

Because it's not. It was easy for you to rise because you got the game release day, poopsocked it to level 10, played through C and B with other poopsockers like yourself who know how to play the game because you all poured 100+ into Splatoon 1. Meanwhile, the players who were/are bad at the game that were at C when you spend through ranked are still down here in C, making GBS threads it up for the rest of us.

It's a team based game. Every member of a team is responsible for a loss. Including you. Meaning that every loss that you suffered was your own drat fault in some way. If a situation arises where another teammate happened to cost you the match, you could have prevented that situation from occurring in the first place.

And if you think every player except yourself happens to be a drooling idiot in the current rank, that means, that means your team is stuck with 3 drooling idiots and the other team is stuck with 4. Surely the odds would be in your team's favor? If you really don't belong where you are, you'll get out eventually. It's how matchmaking in any team based works.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Generally good advice (getting mad at teammates for every loss is a great way to a) have less fun and b) stay poo poo at the game) but I really disagree with the notion that every loss is preventable, by you. Yes, that is theoretically possible, and such a player may even exist, but that player is most certainly not me. And I don't think it will ever be me no matter how much game I play.

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

Everyone in c rank is loving awful! *somehow loses repeatedly against said c rank awful players*

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

inferis posted:

Even if this is right then worst case scenario there's four idiots on the other team and three on yours

No, worst case scenario is a disconnect on your side.

Actually, on that note:



I had two brilliant teammates with me, whenever we were down to one player alive they would swim back to a safe choke point so the dead members could jump to the alive one. We'd push it to the ramp, die, they'd push it to the center, we'd push it back to their ramp, repeat for the entire round.

That one great round made up for the poo poo the rest of this night has given me.

Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010


I will say that this game sometimes makes me angry in ways I thought only Smash could.

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

rogue wave posted:

I mean I hear you, but I play way way better with this gun than anything else I have right now. It takes me a while to get into the groove with most weapons and this one just feels right for me. I'll give it a chance, but a player is probably always going to be better with a weapon that works best for them rather than one that is objectively better, right? Or am I confusing real world guns with video games again?

Just go into training mode, throw a burst bomb and hit fire immediately after throwing the bomb and see what happens with the tri splosher, it's pretty sweet.

Realistically though most of the guns are viable and if you get kills doing what you're doing, great.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


lelandjs posted:

It's super easy to create a new account on the Switch, right?

I double dog dare any of the goons here who are saying git gud to create a smurf account and slum it down in C rank for a bit and then still come back saying "the problem is 100% you"

Because it's not. It was easy for you to rise because you got the game release day, poopsocked it to level 10, played through C and B with other poopsockers like yourself who know how to play the game because you all poured 100+ into Splatoon 1. Meanwhile, the players who were/are bad at the game that were at C when you spend through ranked are still down here in C, making GBS threads it up for the rest of us who took our time getting to level 10.

I did this in splatoon 1 last year, I made a smurf account and leveled it to 20 with only the splattershot jr and procceeded to climb up in ranks even past B-


I did this after the game had been out for a while , so I had a ton of terrible teams.
The thing with splatoon is since "health" regens pretty fast , its really easy for one player to just go on a splatting spree of chasing down one opponent after another, So its really easy with enough skill to carry an entire team.

Get good enough and you can brute force your way to higher ranks, there's no rush. (im still C rank on several of the modes, I'm too busy playing salmon run for fun instead)
In short:

inferis posted:

Even if this is right then worst case scenario there's four idiots on the other team and three on yours
make sure one of those idiots isnt you and you'll suceed.

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Been catching up on Splatoon 2 news. Is there any reason to get excited over the Octoling file?

It was in splatoon1's code after an update and nothing came of it. There hasn't been any announcements of new modes, characters, or any single player stuff, so until then, I wouldn't get your hopes up unless something gets announced.

Spellman
May 31, 2011

Octolings can't wear hats on their big ugly heads so that would really surprise me

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.
Alright, can someone talk up ink mines?

It looks like they deal 35 damage, and tag the target. I assume you don't get the tag if they shoot the mine from range (just the free ink from the explosion). Your teammates can see the tags, but probably not your mine positioning?
What are the best places to put mines? Just around corners, I guess?

Spellman
May 31, 2011

DalaranJ posted:

Alright, can someone talk up ink mines? What are the best places to put mines? Just around corners, I guess?

TOWER CONTROL

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

I would also like to know this because I love Rapid Blaster but it has ink mines that I'm completely ineffectual at using and mostly I forget they exist. Sometimes I put one on the tower and it scares people off it when it goes off.

I recently saw a sniper fortify their position in Moray Towers by laying ink mines, and that was pretty effective! Got me a few times (along with some stray shots) when I tried to go up there and teach them a lesson.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Cicadas! posted:

I will say that this game sometimes makes me angry in ways I thought only Smash could.

Same but MarioKart

Night Blade
Feb 25, 2013

JackDarko posted:

Trying out the Splash-o-matic, I don't think this gun is very good. I have really fond memories liking it a lot in Splatoon 1 not sure why though as I got Max Level in that game and didn't take it seriously past that. Its accuracy is nice but I don't see the advantage considering it's Two Lines of range. It also has mist which isn't as useful as burst bombs. Am I missing anything?

Worse range than the ridiculous Octobrush / Tri Slosher, accurate fire but tiny hitbox. There's literally no reason for this weapon to exist in the current game.

Tales from S rank - Less Tri Sloshers, more Octobrushes so far. Had one game where everyone else had 12/13 kills and I had a whopping ONE, so I really dragged my team down, next game I'm dumping all over everyone easily, many of them the same players from the previous game.

Sometimes the bullets just hit and everything is gravy, other times you'll unload for 4 seconds on someone and nothing happens. Sometimes you'll start a gunfight with someone and you just die the second the fight starts, other times you'll run into a group of 3 people by accident and splat them because the game feels like you didn't get hit when you actually did and totally deserved to die.

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Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010


Is there a point to the nozzlenose?

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