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sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)
Never underestimate the acrobatic label shifting of the insane & hateful.

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




sweeperbravo posted:

Never underestimate the acrobatic label shifting of the insane & hateful.

Thanks, iguana.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

ishikabibble posted:

Anti-choice? Are you still taking about TERFs? Because there's no way someone qualifying for 'Radical Feminist' would be anything but pro-choice.

TERFs aren't actually either radicals or feminists. :ssh:

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Besesoth posted:

TERFs aren't actually either radicals or feminists. :ssh:

Are they at least really trans-exclusionary?

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Paladinus posted:

Are they at least really trans-exclusionary?

Depends on how many hoops trans people jump through for some of them.

Just a few will say "well you've got a vagina and estrogen now, so I guess you're sorta female"

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
What a sham! Everything is a lie!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

HerStuddMuffin posted:

But... they have nukes! Well, not Jews in general, but Israel does.

Yeah but they need to use them or at least publicly threaten the Samson Option.

Tumblr of scotch
Mar 13, 2006

Please, don't be my neighbor.

ishikabibble posted:

Anti-choice? Are you still taking about TERFs? Because there's no way someone qualifying for 'Radical Feminist' would be anything but pro-choice.
They are radical feminists in much the same way that North Korea is democratic or a people's republic.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

lifg posted:

I'm sad that Jews don't rank anymore. Like what do we have to do to get back in the game?

Not pictured: A massive pyramid with an Eye of Providence and Star of David hovers over the political triforce from which it dangles marionette stringes

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Sir Lemming posted:

Finally, a Zelda game that deals with real-world issues. #maturegaming

Seriously though what the hell would "conservative liberals" be? Other than just a fancy way of saying centrist.

In European politics, liberals are by definition rightists. Liberals are people who have a preference for individual freedoms (hence the term liberal) and therefor prefer low taxes and low government involvement, which is a conservative point of view.

On the other hand, the left side of the political spectrum is mostly social democrats and on the far left socialists. They believe the government should take action to help citizens so that everyone can expect the same basic treatment no matter how rich or poor they are. They are in favor of universal free or low-cost healthcare and consider it okay to raise taxes to make this happen.

For some reason, Americans seem to equate the term 'liberals' with the political left, which leads to some very confusing international discussions. Maybe this is because the American Democratic party is center-right at best and there's no real leftist presence in US politics (well maybe Bernie Sanders comes close).

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
I thought it was because Americans are often loving morons?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

ikanreed posted:

Depends on how many hoops trans people jump through for some of them.

Just a few will say "well you've got a vagina and estrogen now, so I guess you're sorta female"

Apparently, you're not a real woman if your vagina isn't smelly.

That's actually an opinion by actual well-known transphobic feminist Germaine Greer.

Related video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzYi1TkIxaY

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Outrail posted:

I thought it was because Americans are often loving morons?

american't

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

And if I American't teach you about it, I know someone who Ameriwill.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
TERFs tend to be the kind of feminist who literally view feminity as sacred or magical. That quickly leads to all sorts of lovely RW views, like women are meant to produce children or whatever.

It's why swerfs overlap that Venn diagram so much too. They see them as befouling their purity.

Put a TERF and a Fundy in a room together, and their main difference of opinion is whether a woman should submit to a man and not have a job before pounding out babies.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

ikanreed posted:

TERFs tend to be the kind of feminist who literally view feminity as sacred or magical. That quickly leads to all sorts of lovely RW views, like women are meant to produce children or whatever.

It's why swerfs overlap that Venn diagram so much too. They see them as befouling their purity.

Put a TERF and a Fundy in a room together, and their main difference of opinion is whether a woman should submit to a man and not have a job before pounding out babies.

I thought pounding was for putting the baby in. :downs:

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

I always thought TERFs were the kind of radical extremist feminists who write small publication articles in punk zines about the patriarchy and microaggressions and run businesses where they charge men more for being men, not new age hippy mothers :confused:

Like from everything I've seen from people labeled TERFs they're trans-exclusionary because they view transwomen as the patriarchy trying to co-opt their struggle and also invade their safe spaces.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Carbon dioxide posted:

For some reason, Americans seem to equate the term 'liberals' with the political left, which leads to some very confusing international discussions.

This is because European liberalism is largely economic liberalism and US liberalism is largely social liberalism.

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.

ishikabibble posted:

I always thought TERFs were the kind of radical extremist feminists who write small publication articles in punk zines about the patriarchy and microaggressions and run businesses where they charge men more for being men, not new age hippy mothers :confused:

Like from everything I've seen from people labeled TERFs they're trans-exclusionary because they view transwomen as the patriarchy trying to co-opt their struggle and also invade their safe spaces.

It's both groups for, like you said, different reasons.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

ishikabibble posted:

Like from everything I've seen from people labeled TERFs they're trans-exclusionary because they view transwomen as the patriarchy trying to co-opt their struggle and also invade their safe spaces.

Infiltration agent Teresa, formerly Jake. The patriarchy thanks you for your service and sacrifice, are you ready for mission?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
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No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

I want to see what that net worth chart looks like at least. Stop being such a tease, ad!

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

ishikabibble posted:

Anti-choice? Are you still taking about TERFs? Because there's no way someone qualifying for 'Radical Feminist' would be anything but pro-choice.

TERFs support defunding Planned Parenthood because Planned Parenthood offers healthcare to trans people. TERF activist organizations like WoLF are in the pocket of (and funnel money to) anti-choice and anti-gay organizations. Turns out that when you hate trans people, the people who agree with you tend to be far-right, and when you hate trans people so much that it overwhelms all your other principles, you end up in bed with people who doxx abortion clinic employees.

Paladinus posted:

Are they at least really trans-exclusionary?

They're semi-fine with trans people like Miranda Yardley who spend all their time writing about how transgenderism is evil and trans women aren't really women. Basically the same as how the homophobic right was fine with Milo, for a time at least.

ikanreed posted:

Depends on how many hoops trans people jump through for some of them.

Just a few will say "well you've got a vagina and estrogen now, so I guess you're sorta female"

Nope, TERFs generally say that post-op trans women don't have a vagina, they have a gaping flesh wound.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
What about FtM transgender? Are they at least applauded for trying to shed their evil womanly ways?

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
FtM transgenders don't exist in most anti-trans minds.

See also bathroom bill and every time they talk about trans people.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Outrail posted:

What about FtM transgender? Are they at least applauded for trying to shed their evil womanly ways?

Traditionally they're gender traitors trying to join the male oppressors, but nowadays most TERFs say they're confused butch lesbians with internalized homophobia (or even just feminine straight women with internalized misogyny) being deceived by Big Trans and serving as useful idiots to support the invasion of women's bathrooms.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Sounds kind of like the gender politics version of HillaryIs44.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Which bathroom does a FtM use?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

being deceived by Big Trans

For some reason the idea of Big Trans made me crack up.

"THEIR PUTTING HORMONES IN THE WATER TO TURN THE FRIKKEN FROGS INTO WOMEN!"

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I forgot this wasn't the IoSM thread so I was very confused by these informative LoB posts

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

I don't post TERF stuff directly in this forum because it made other trans posters uncomfortable.

Dreddout posted:

For some reason the idea of Big Trans made me crack up.

"THEIR PUTTING HORMONES IN THE WATER TO TURN THE FRIKKEN FROGS INTO WOMEN!"

They literally believe some sort of trans illuminati orchestrated Milo's downfall.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Henchman of Santa posted:

I forgot this wasn't the IoSM thread so I was very confused by these informative LoB posts

same, I was confused for like 2/3 of the post and then it clicked--oh, this is LoB himself actually talking.

It was weird, it felt like seeing a mall Santa sans beard on a smoke break for the first time

Dreddout posted:

For some reason the idea of Big Trans made me crack up.

"THEIR PUTTING HORMONES IN THE WATER TO TURN THE FRIKKEN FROGS INTO WOMEN!"

which would be extra funny since there are species of frogs that do that naturally anyway

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

which would be extra funny since there are species of frogs that do that naturally anyway

Life, ah, ah, finds a way

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Let's see if we can get this thread ontopic again by scraping the latest gems from wtfviz.










Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


This one is amazing. It's not actually doing anything wrong, but that's a very odd selection of metrics to show in a single graph and a very unusual way of presenting each of them.

It's perfectly readable if you make the effort. I can tell, for example, that the vast majority of bowling is done after noon, with a peak of about 7pm, and that bowling's popularity has remained constant. But still... :psyduck:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Other than colors being impossible to distinguish, if they aren't actually completely identical.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

These are all excellent but this one remains my fav.

? ?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

This one is pretty great even apart from the numbers. "Items on board [a boat] most named as useful" and it features things like "sails" and "anchor". poo poo, guys, if only we hadn't forgotten the sails, they'd really come in handy right now.

e: "anchor" is one point ahead of "anchor winch" so I reckon 1 out of 100 boat owners has gotten pretty strong over the years.

My Lovely Horse has a new favorite as of 12:07 on Aug 10, 2017

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I hate pie charts that don't start from the 12 o'clock position and don't arrange the slices clockwise from largest to smallest

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Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

My Lovely Horse posted:

This one is pretty great even apart from the numbers. "Items on board [a boat] most named as useful" and it features things like "sails" and "anchor". poo poo, guys, if only we hadn't forgotten the sails, they'd really come in handy right now.

e: "anchor" is one point ahead of "anchor winch" so I reckon 1 out of 100 boat owners has gotten pretty strong over the years.

You don't need a particularly large anchor for a dinghy.

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