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James Baud posted:I'd consider taking over maintenance of gedit. Mind you, I'd start by rolling back every UI change since gnome2. Also check out the paint app or whatever it is called. That codebase is ancient. I had to patch it to work with recently modern copy & paste 
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el dorito posted:apparently, gedit is not being maintained anymore. ah yes, the "hacker news posts a link to something half a month old". gedit already found two new maintainers literally the day of.
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I still can't get over how badly GNOME 2 got screwed up by people who thought anyone wanted their desktop experience to be touch friendly, or whatever they thought. I can't even use MATE any more because they shifted to GTK3 and got things like: - the abomination of a file chooser with brilliant design decision of dropping path completion from type-ahead search unless you prefixed everything with "./". And there's something else, but I've forgotten in the intervening year. - gnome3-UI for gconf-editor, dconf-editor, or whatever, which recently went from just being gross window controls to "you used to like browsing for these settings you kinda know the feel of because you've been tweaking them every fresh install for fifteen years? screw you, we'll break browsing so you need to google for their locations". (I actually was a pretty active GNOME contributor for a few years way back when.)
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RFC2324 posted:only reason i know about nedit was a request from some ee to make it work in kde hi i'm a ee that uses nedit ama it's mostly: 1. has verilog+systemverilog syntax highlighting 2. has p. good regex search/replace 3. has a set of keyboard shortcuts which make it possible to use said search/replace without needing to touch the mouse, and 4. is reasonably fast when asked to open very large files (occasionally needing to search through a 100MB text file is a hazard of working in digital design) oh, and maybe 5. almost as fast as local when working through a vnc, because caveman era ui design is good for vnc it's certainly not great in any other way. its ui and font rendering are stuck in the 1990s, and it is truly unsupported. i'd switch in a heartbeat if i found something that ticked all those boxes since sooner rather than later it's gonna stop working. however, i haven't ever found an alternative that was actually good enough to switch to, which is honestly kinda sad.
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hifi posted:emacs lol no
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do they still call copying yanking  ?
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i used the linux subsystem for windows yesterday to use file, strings and binwalk. it was pretty good.
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i use visual studio code as my text editor on fedora
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BobHoward posted:hi i'm a ee that uses nedit ama emacs has all of these things and modern font rendering, too. (but it is optional)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:emacs has all of these things on the other hand emacs ui is completely horrible shite that should have been left behind in the 1970s
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https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/images/splash.png you want a ribbon or what?
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BobHoward posted:on the other hand emacs ui is completely horrible shite that should have been left behind in the 1970s vim supremacy
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hifi posted:https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/images/splash.png i want to use keyboard shortcut conventions that were invented in the post-tty era, tyvm
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BobHoward posted:i want to use keyboard shortcut conventions that were invented in the post-tty era, tyvm you're a nedit user let''s start with getting you into the 1990s. you can focus on further modernisation after making the transition
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BobHoward posted:i want to use keyboard shortcut conventions that were invented in the post-tty era, tyvm pretty sure emacs has them as uh, cua-mode? it's as modern as you want to make it.
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BobHoward posted:i want to use keyboard shortcut conventions that were invented in the post-tty era, tyvm ok, but you're still going to need to learn either emacs or vi conventions anyway if you use a linux because good luck finding a shell where control c means copy, even windows doesn't do that
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you need to learn vi because even the most resource constrained device will have it
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you're a nedit user nedit is extremely 1990s silly also: i'm not even saying nedit is awesome. it's just the least bad out of a field of terrible options. jony neuemonic posted:pretty sure emacs has them as uh, cua-mode? it's as modern as you want to make it. nothing can fully mask the rms stench, ime. iow: I have actually used emacs before and there are many reasons why I am not too interested in revisiting it am honestly more at home in vi than emacs these days. even though vi is total poo poo it's good to know the basics since, like cockroaches, it is everywhere
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BobHoward posted:nothing can fully mask the rms stench, ime. fair enough. i don't use it anymore either tbh, i always go down the configuration rabbithole and it still never feels quite right.
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hobbesmaster posted:you need to learn vi because even the most resource constrained device will have it I'm not poor, so I don't need to worry about resource constrained computers
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BobHoward posted:am honestly more at home in vi than emacs these days. use evil mode, dingus vi in your emacs
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:use evil mode, dingus I can use VIM, but I don't like to. In order of text editors I will use: Sublime gedit nano vim paper and pencil rock and chisel dirt and stick the blood of my enemies emacs Oh, and if I am programming in C/C++ I will use Eclipse-CDT. Anything else is usually a JetBrains editor.
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org-mode is realy good I use it on a daily basis also org-babel and integrating & evaluating code snippets in your document is really cool
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mike12345 posted:org-mode is realy good im still not feeling code snippets in document but org mode keeps coming up so much i might be tempted to try it
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akadajet posted:I'm not poor, so I don't need to worry about resource constrained computers resource constrained is only a subset though. there are plenty of things that have a standard *nix toolset and don't allow you to install other editors
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akadajet posted:I'm not poor, so I don't need to worry about resource constrained computers poor people don't have Linux running on their toaster oven
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anatoliy pltkrvkay posted:resource constrained is only a subset though. there are plenty of things that have a standard *nix toolset and don't allow you to install other editors yeah, most ibm unix stuff tends to have only vi, and good luck finding z/arch versions of your favorite editor
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carry on then posted:yeah, most ibm unix stuff tends to have only vi, and good luck finding z/arch versions of your favorite editor emacs has always run fine on aix it also runs on linux/s390 but i don't think anyone is using z/arch anything to run an editor. at least i hope not.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:emacs has always run fine on aix runs fine yes, comes with, no. and i generally find myself needing an editor to edit websphere config files on z/os, and of course it's a toss up whether those are in ascii or ebcdic
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carry on then posted:runs fine yes, comes with, no. carry on then posted:and i generally find myself needing an editor to edit websphere config files on z/os, and of course it's a toss up whether those are in ascii or ebcdic oh my god you poor bastard. websphere on z/os? who did this to you? show us on the doll where the bad men touched you
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's been in the "toolbox" poo poo since aix5l dude lmao companies you've heard of use exactly that configuration companies you've heard of are upgrading that configuration
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carry on then posted:and i generally find myself needing an editor to edit websphere config files on z/os, and of course it's a toss up whether those are in ascii or ebcdic stay safe ibm ghost
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the aix package that came with all the gnu/linux stuff was always so hilariously out of date
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pram posted:the aix package that came with all the gnu/linux stuff was always so hilariously out of date So is the entire idea of gnunix
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BobHoward posted:on the other hand emacs ui is completely horrible shite that should have been left behind in the 1970s still better than the 1970s competition until Smalltalk-76 and Bravo II Zmacs was pretty nice and Hemlock is pretty nice too and both are written in better Lisp, Xemacs was an attempt to turn GNU meads into something like them
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