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Well at least you'll probably die in a horrible auto accident before the engine shits out at whatever "high boost" is.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:21
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Just when you think a 911 930 Turbo isn't suicidal enough
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Aug 9, 2017 23:21
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Daily that fucker, love (your brief) life.
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Aug 10, 2017 02:38
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Need to paint all that stuff sticking out the back a bright purple and red to complete the look of an albino baboon with it's gross rear end junk sticking out.
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Aug 10, 2017 18:31
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those doors. someone offer him 500 https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/1987-nissan-stanza-van-wagon/6256082510.html 
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Aug 10, 2017 19:48
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Brolander posted:those doors. someone offer him 500 Dammit. Not a single Stanza on CL for my area, much less a wagon like that...
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Aug 10, 2017 23:08
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I kinda want to snag this for less than $3500, put the open diff back in it, put a spare e46 steering wheel I have here back in, and daily the poo poo out of it. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6257304401.html
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Aug 10, 2017 23:28
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BlackMK4 posted:I kinda want to snag this for less than $3500, put the open diff back in it, put a spare e46 steering wheel I have here back in, and daily the poo poo out of it. Do it! The e46 is the ultimate compromise of comfort, performance and price. I just put new sachs sport shocks, lemforder top mounts and bimmerworld rtabs on my 330 and it's like driving a new car with a weird smell.
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Aug 10, 2017 23:42
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TWSS posted:Do it! The e46 is the ultimate compromise of comfort, performance and price. I just put new sachs sport shocks, lemforder top mounts and bimmerworld rtabs on my 330 and it's like driving a new car with a weird smell. Agreed, I had a lowish mile 330ci ZHP for about 18 months. If I didn't leave Alaska I'd still have it. Loved that thing. Replaced pretty much all the same parts listed in that ad.
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Aug 11, 2017 00:34
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BlackMK4 posted:I kinda want to snag this for less than $3500, put the open diff back in it, put a spare e46 steering wheel I have here back in, and daily the poo poo out of it. i'll have my e46 ready for sale any day now but it wont be as cheap as this car is
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Aug 11, 2017 00:37
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TWSS posted:Do it! The e46 is the ultimate compromise of comfort, performance and price. I just put new sachs sport shocks, lemforder top mounts and bimmerworld rtabs on my 330 and it's like driving a new car with a weird smell. I've owned 4 of them now  I expected that post to get poo poo on for what the car is but.....maybe... i was wrong....
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Aug 11, 2017 00:54
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Can't really fault it too much except the lovely coilovers and ride height (and diff, but that problem is fixed with included parts). And it's cheap.
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Aug 11, 2017 01:20
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tag yourself i'm the control arm replaced on one side only
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Aug 11, 2017 01:34
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At least the left side takes like 15 minutes since you can come in from the top with the socket. I'm about 90% sure that the current owner is this dude that built an LS FC RX7 like ten years ago and was in the pro-am drift circuit.
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Aug 11, 2017 01:37
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The above car sold within 15 minutes of the ad being listed. Ah well, I was going to grab it.
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You Am I posted:Just when you think a 911 930 Turbo isn't suicidal enough I bought a 911 buyer's guide some years ago, mainly because I was interested in 930s. It estimated that 25% of all 930s have damage from lift off oversteer in a turn, I imagine it's only worse now. I also really wish I had purchased one when they were selling for 33% of some of the prices I see now.
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Aug 11, 2017 20:00
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  Guessing someone died.
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/292340897839462
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I tried to find some gumtree gold today (no one uses craigslist here, drug dealers used to so people used to read it, but the dealers got shut down which is a shame, and no-one uses craigslist here anymore). Trip report, the only good fairlanes (zb-zd) are still stupid expensive. Cortinas are not suprisingly. Couple of rx7 not running under 3k - cheaper than any other mazdas WTF? never expected to find any under 5k no matter the condition Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Aug 12, 2017 |
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I say this as an rx8 owner, the rx8 did a terrible disservice to other rotories dragging the reputation through the mud. I wouldnt be surprised if it hurts the older gens value a bit. If the next one becomes a thing and is a hit theres probably money to be made on that rebound. Imo the rotory didnt have a reputation for anything other than being low torque high revving and unique prior to the renesis. Then it was "lol apex seals" and $400 deflooding procedures by rear end in a top hat dealers, culminating in the ceo saying it was all a mistake and he was sorry. I love that car, and you have to love that car, if you just want a rwd sports car, why not go with literally any other rwd on the market without this reputation? Anybody that wants one probably owns one, or one and 4 donors etc.
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Aug 12, 2017 22:06
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The apex seals thing was around already. The RX8 had an accessible rear seat with adequate leg room for an adult. That's a pretty good reason, if you really don't want a sedan.
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Aug 13, 2017 01:49
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Boost in, apex seals out is a joke much older than the Renesis.
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The went from winning le mans to an unmitigated disaster of an engine that could very well grenade at 35k miles because of an admitted design flaw. I mean yeah the seals failed before but in a reasonable amount of time and its not unheard of to get 300k out of them. Used ones were always a gamble because it may have not been properly cared for, but thats not the same as an assured failure in an unreasonably short time which was the basis of the recall. They couldnt even give you a replacement that fixed the issue. I get what yall are saying, im just saying theres no way that didnt effect the publics perception of all their models. The community changed pretty dramitcally as well. It's kinda one of the more unpleasant ones now to put it lightly.
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The goals of an endurance race motor and a road motor are wildly different. Comparing those motors is like comparing a top fuel hemi motor and a 318.
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Aug 13, 2017 04:33
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I'm just gonna leave this right heeeeeeere... https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/1965-dodge-dart-gt-lifted-4x4/6223928311.html  
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Aug 13, 2017 06:59
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I'd take it for $4k. Too many issues to justify the asking price.
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 I think this is the ugliest F40 inspired "replica" ever. https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/replica/unspecified/1988353.html
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DogonCrook posted:The went from winning le mans to an unmitigated disaster of an engine that could very well grenade at 35k miles because of an admitted design flaw. I mean yeah the seals failed before but in a reasonable amount of time and its not unheard of to get 300k out of them. Used ones were always a gamble because it may have not been properly cared for, but thats not the same as an assured failure in an unreasonably short time which was the basis of the recall. They couldnt even give you a replacement that fixed the issue. I get what yall are saying, im just saying theres no way that didnt effect the publics perception of all their models. The community changed pretty dramitcally as well. It's kinda one of the more unpleasant ones now to put it lightly. the number of rx8's with 300k miles is probably less than 100
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Octopus Magic posted:
Throw some 8-bit logos on it maybe so it looks intentionally bad
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BraveUlysses posted:the number of rx8's with 300k miles is probably less than 100 The gen I and II rx7s (non turbo) would go forever.
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Octopus Magic posted:
IROC wheels with white walls. I'm thinking that is factory correct.
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BraveUlysses posted:the number of rx8's with 300k miles is probably less than 100 Network42 posted:The gen I and II rx7s (non turbo) would go forever. Yeah, he's talking about the RX-8 as the one that explodes at 35K miles. My personal FC RX-87 has 226K miles on it so far, and I even had to unstick the motor from sitting after I bought it. Same old story with auto manufacturers: we have this solid, reliable thing. How can we make it cheaper? Oops! Less reliable now, too. Actually, I haven't done a lot of research into the Renesis flaws. Is it just the ECU/fueling, or is it something inherent with the MSPRE design?
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Darchangel posted:Yeah, he's talking about the RX-8 as the one that explodes at 35K miles. My personal FC RX-87 has 226K miles on it so far, and I even had to unstick the motor from sitting after I bought it. Thats impressive actually. Yeah its believed to be port design that caused it and it also severly limits the amount of air you can get into the engine even through forced induction limiting it to around 350hp. There was a long and ugly debate about carbon deposits and it certainly does cause issues and failures but imo that was all a desperate hope it wasnt a fundamental problem that couldnt be solved. I dunno i really dont like talking about it because of the drama it creates. People hang on to and swear by their secret voodoo thats going to save that engine. Theres really nothing you can do, and on top of that the variance engine to engine is absurd. Its the only car i know of that can regularly gain 20hp without changing any parts just by calibrating the maf sensor and fine tuning the fuel map. They run a generic map that can cover huge differences engine to engine. On top of that build quality and casting were questionable. I'm sure there are other takes on it but thats the fundamental difference between the two engines. Through the course of the renesis they tried all the little fixes the community swore was the cause it didnt change a drat thing. E: that all that said people that rebuilt with better side and apex seals did better if i recall so there is something to that too. I dont remember exactly but there was a theory that the seals were not having pressure applied evenly or where the wrong thickness. There may have been something to it but its probably only part of the puzzle imo. I dont think anybody rebuilds to factory specs as they are generally considered wrong which is alarm bells right there. DogonCrook fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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From what I could gather, one of the most common failures involved a lack of oiling on the side seals where they passed over the ports, which mazda did attempt to address with an added oil injection port. For whatever its worth, the changes from the series 1 to the series 2 motors did make a difference and most series 2 renesis motors are expected to make it to or over 100k miles wheras a series 1 will generally be expected to fail around 60k. And there are a few people that have series 1 renesis motors well over 100k on the original factory motors. A mechanic at a local shop being one of them with 130k miles on his '04 rx8 that he doesn't do anything special to, just drives. There were also issues with the earlier renesis motors being recommended to run on a much lighter oil than the series 2 motors that was a cause of legitimate issues. In short, the rx8 is a fun and quirky car with an interesting, yet heavily maintenance intensive and problematic engine. After 2 friends buying them and experiencing them, I will own one some day.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:From what I could gather, one of the most common failures involved a lack of oiling on the side seals where they passed over the ports, which mazda did attempt to address with an added oil injection port. For whatever its worth, the changes from the series 1 to the series 2 motors did make a difference and most series 2 renesis motors are expected to make it to or over 100k miles wheras a series 1 will generally be expected to fail around 60k. And there are a few people that have series 1 renesis motors well over 100k on the original factory motors. A mechanic at a local shop being one of them with 130k miles on his '04 rx8 that he doesn't do anything special to, just drives. By design you dont want too much or thicker oil. It comes with its own problems and failures in a rotory. They didnt choose the wrong oil they built the wrong engine. And i mean 100k is a lemon. It is what it is. That said if you know what you are getting into by all means. Its a rewarding car for sure and if you work on them yourself none of this is a problem other than maintenance being higher but it does also have nicer components than the typical car in its price range accounting for some of that cost. The failures generally aren't catstrophic either and happen with plenty of notice which blunts the pain quite a bit. Imo its just closer to owning an airplane or something and you dont want to wait for anything to get out of whack or fail.
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That's really sad, since the Renesis was supposed to save the rotary. The design as it was before the Renesis suffered from the emissions created by port overlap between exhaust and intake, and of course fuel economy.The MSPRE designed at least solved the port overlap issue. Fuel consumption didn't improve much, but at least it passed the emissions test. There was some promise of more power/economy with the experimental direct-injection at Mazda, and more torque with the physically larger 16x engine, but there are definitely design limitations to the rotary. I love how odd they are, but I'm not sure that there is room for odd any more with environmental and legal restrictions, not to mention cutthroat competition in the market.
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financially racist posted:as rotaries are real easy to get to run on hydrogen,one way a rotary could work today is if hydrogen fuel cells ever get onto the consumer market in a meaningful way, but for that to happen we need a way to cheaply isolate hydrogen atoms. i don't see that happening at all though, so they are prolly dead. maybe a hybrid rotary-electric could work? i dunno. all i know is that even though i had the lowly 12a, i really enjoyed the power curve and revvi-ness of my rx7 and miss it a lot. Yeah if they give up on torque and use an electric motor for that and use a rotory tuned for high rpm theres a good weight balanced hybrid that could be made. People started getting somewhere peripheral porting them, but all anybody can do with the current design is demonstrate it works at these power levels. Presumambly mazda decided to not do this for a reason though and nobody knows how it would work if you increase airflow significantly and add power. The current design cant be ported enough to find out out. A lot of this stuff is way over my head but if you dig around people have done some pretty interesting things as hobbyists so i hope mazda is playing with this stuff too. There are still tricks to try imo. And mazda to their credit willed this nonsensical engine into being in the first place. I dont think it needs a rational case just that same mentality at the executive levels. Mazda seems fine with it not actually being a money maker but more of a flagship design exercise or loss leader. I mean it's basically a link to Japan's greatest automotive achievement. I dont think they will walk away from that because of bad gas mileage.
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