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milk milk lemonade posted:Okay. Multiply that by four. Still way less than 6k USD, and wherever you're flying from would be less in the US, Canada is expensive to fly.
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It costs $1800 minimum to fly my family out of state, regardless of destination. E: that's for 3 people
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Aug 15, 2017 04:42
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if your kid's too big to bring on as a lap infant, they're old enough to be checked luggage
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Aug 15, 2017 04:58
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Aug 15, 2017 05:18
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pain is a 14 hour flight with a child in your row
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Aug 15, 2017 05:20
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Today I put a week long vacation to the distant land of San Diego on the calendar. I live in Los Angeles County. It's going to be great. Visit some friends, sit on the beach, and most importantly I will feel unemployed. No phone calls, no meetings, no email. Just margaritas.
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Aug 15, 2017 06:29
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H110Hawk posted:Today I put a week long vacation to the distant land of San Diego on the calendar. I live in Los Angeles County. It's going to be great. Visit some friends, sit on the beach, and most importantly I will feel unemployed. No phone calls, no meetings, no email. Just margaritas. What's wrong with you? You need to add in a tequila shot with a random girl every other margarita. Have you never been on vacation before?
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Aug 15, 2017 06:53
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I'm going to quote this srspost from before y'all started threadshitting about vacation.Portland Sucks posted:I think I posted this in the wrong thread so I'm reposting it here. The best way to 'train up' doing Ops is.. Doing Ops. If they're Windows Servers, make sure they're up to date patch wise and they're not some XP/Server 2000 hellhole and user facing. A sysadmin/devops/security position honestly sounds like a nightmare and really should be different peoples responsibilities, but we're running the risk of getting into "How do I DevOps a team?" territory there.
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Aug 15, 2017 07:41
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Aug 15, 2017 08:05
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Flying lessons would be a good use of time off work
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Aug 15, 2017 08:26
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IndustrialApe posted:Up until now i had 10 weeks of PTO, i'll miss those 5 weeks (but the raise makes up for it). Is your old job still available?
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Sefal posted:Is your old job still available? Don't think so. btw: you're the second person asking me this in the past month.
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IndustrialApe posted:Don't think so. btw: you're the second person asking me this in the past month. 
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Aug 15, 2017 12:18
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I'd get a passport but just the cost of flying to Europe for the two of us is the same as hotels for 2 or 3 weeks anywhere in the US and I still haven't seen Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Gonna travel after all the student loans are paid off and house is bought Also the dollar has slid a ton so it's not super smart to spend money in Europe right now
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Aug 15, 2017 12:50
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Anybody want to show me around the strip clubs in Montreal when I plan my vacation next year?
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Aug 15, 2017 13:13
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Vargatron posted:Anybody want to show me around the strip clubs in Montreal when I plan my vacation next year? Chez Parée has two doors, the right one is the strip club - otherwise you will end up in a upstairs club for 2 hours wondering where the women are. The bartender will tell you they're on break so you don't leave. Lap dances are $15 a song, but if you are not local that is $15 a minute and you end up with a $150 lap dance real fast. My friend negotiated before getting the dance so I guess you could always do that to play it safe. And if you can get to Bistro Tôt ou Tard for brunch you won't regret it. Really cheap and delicious brunch food. Montreal is my favorite city hands down, if it weren't mostly cold I'd move there. Sepist fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Aug 15, 2017 14:07
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I thought vacation time is when you step out the door and realise you aren't going to work but CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, then immediately go back inside and have ice cream for breakfast then proceed to choke your chicken for the remainder of the day/week/month/epoch. But yes holidays are awesome, if we ever get a wad of cash we'll probably go to Italy and get crunk on gavi in the middle of the day.
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Aug 15, 2017 14:29
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My general vacation haunt is the mountains of North Carolina in a town of approx 450 people. It's a nice way to completely get away from all contact.
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Aug 15, 2017 14:43
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alg posted:Also the dollar has slid a ton so it's not super smart to spend money in Europe right now Spend it in the UK because our currency is hosed
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Thanks Ants posted:Spend it in the UK because our currency is hosed Or Norway, because its equally hosed.
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Wibla posted:Or Norway, because its equally hosed. Yeah, but we brits just shot ourselves in the foot and we're turning into a fascist, war obsessed, short attention spanned, xenophobic utopia. It'll be less of a culture shock for an American taking his first vacation  I made myself sad 
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Dog_Meat posted:Yeah, but we brits just shot ourselves in the foot and we're turning into a fascist, war obsessed, short attention spanned, xenophobic utopia. It'll be less of a culture shock for an American taking his first vacation I was about to say I don't even have to leave home for that, much less go to the UK!
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Dog_Meat posted:we're turning into a fascist, war obsessed, short attention spanned, xenophobic utopia But enough about America e: I realize you already implied that but I really wanted to post it
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I am pretty pissed off but I'm not sure I have anyone to blame but myself. This'll be long-ish. I'm posting it here and not the other thread because the other thread is generally about single events, whereas this is just work discussion. My team has been sharing on call duties with another team. We're part of the same rotation. My team generally handles infrastructure requests and the other team generally handles application requests. The problem with that is that my team is much larger than theirs - large enough to the point where the other team can't really even support its own on call rotation. If we split the teams in two, the other team would be on call so often, and dealing with so many issues, that it would quickly lead to burnout. So the solution has been that both teams share the same on call rotation, and my infrastructure team can do some basic application troubleshooting, and the app team can do some basic infrastructure troubleshooting. Put bluntly, my team has been propping up this other team for a year now because they can't figure out how to hire enough people to do their job. As of this week, one of the application sys admins has moved to a development role which is a great fit for him. He is also, just by the luck of the draw, the on call sys admin this week. Just a chance occurrence. Well imagine how happy I was when he and his boss contacted me on Monday morning to have him pulled out of the on call rotation. Absolutely not, that's not happening. I'm not moving the schedule around and loving everyone else because this guy's job changed, much less that I've been doing his job for him (as an infrastructure guy doing application work) for a year. My team's been propping theirs up for a year and they can't at least finish off a rotation before they move to a new department? The whole thing just infuriates me because I really should have just said a year ago "no, we won't be on call with the application team", and this week has made that very clear. I've been acting in good faith and taking care of 'my guys', but as soon as one got a chance to get out from under it, he took it and ran. I'm now pressing the split between infrastructure and application to get my team onto our own rotation.
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Do you guys know of a way to get youtube results neatly in XML or JSON? There must be something like this but I can't find anything (besides a paid add in for excel called seotools).
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Aug 15, 2017 18:12
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:I am pretty pissed off but I'm not sure I have anyone to blame but myself. This'll be long-ish. I'm posting it here and not the other thread because the other thread is generally about single events, whereas this is just work discussion. What is the duration of the on-call period and what is the general volume?
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Aug 15, 2017 18:13
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It's 1 week, and it's generally "clear your schedule", with probably 50% of issues being application, 45% being another team entirely why am I even on this call, and the other 5% being mysteries which involve checking everything you can think of until it resolves itself (ie, infrastructure). An illustrative example is that when I go on call, my wife and I don't go out of town that weekend. Any other weekend it's time for a road trip, but the weekend that I'm on call, I rarely even drive past the town line.
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Aug 15, 2017 18:16
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That sounds pretty similar to what my on-call rotation was like. So why can't the dude that transferred just do the on-call week? One week isn't an unreasonable schedule.
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Vargatron posted:That sounds pretty similar to what my on-call rotation was like. So why can't the dude that transferred just do the on-call week? One week isn't an unreasonable schedule. It just pisses me off that this even comes up. The argument I heard was "well what you do if he had quit?" - well you know what, he didn't quit, he didn't die, he didn't have a medical emergency. He just moved to a different cubicle. He still has the knowledge, he still has the production account, and he's on call.
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Aug 15, 2017 18:23
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:with probably 50% of issues being application, 45% being another team entirely why am I even on this call, and the other 5% being mysteries which involve checking everything you can think of until it resolves itself (ie, infrastructure). "We're providing X% of on-call support hours to resolve issues that actually fall under our purview 5% of the time. We're happy to contribute to the on-call rotation and support the business, but the rotation needs to better reflect who needs to be available to resolve the common issues. " I obviously have no idea what your place is like or how that'd fly. I also have little familiarity with on-call rotations so it don't know how they usually get sorted. But this sounds lovely.
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Aug 15, 2017 18:24
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:He is now, because I put the ole foot down. He got paged last night and I guess he was barely helpful and made them page someone else from his former team to do it, which is ridiculous and I guess I can't manage it call by call. I am with you on this. Someone with that type of attitude needs to be shutdown immediately. His role is changing slightly, his boss changes, and now he decides he is above doing what he did before? gently caress that. Its not like you asked him to move desktops around the office. You didn't ask him to redo the storage room.
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Aug 15, 2017 18:31
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:He is now, because I put the ole foot down. He got paged last night and I guess he was barely helpful and made them page someone else from his former team to do it, which is ridiculous and I guess I can't manage it call by call. Acquiescing to his demand isn't going to make a good impression for other members of the team. If we walks, he walks. It'd be different if he was like "hey I've got this thing coming up" but it sounds like he just flat out refuses to do on-call.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:He is now, because I put the ole foot down. He got paged last night and I guess he was barely helpful and made them page someone else from his former team to do it, which is ridiculous and I guess I can't manage it call by call. Also to be clear, he's still going to be off the on-call rotation going forward right? He just didn't want to finish his last week?
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:It's 1 week, and it's generally "clear your schedule", with probably 50% of issues being application, 45% being another team entirely why am I even on this call, and the other 5% being mysteries which involve checking everything you can think of until it resolves itself (ie, infrastructure). Let rome burn. You need a business plan to resolve your volume. If you are getting an unlimited number of T0/T1 alerts you need dedicated triage handlers, to reduce your alert volume through automation, or both. One way to resolve this is to make oncall 2 weeks of cleared schedule, one week on, one week working on a single item to remove an alert. No interruption, period. Add in a NOC who can do runbooks overnight to let you sleep. You are in an untenable situation and your solution is going to involve PowerPoint and Excel before it involves anything else.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Also to be clear, he's still going to be off the on-call rotation going forward right? He just didn't want to finish his last week? What's really frustrating though is that I've gone out of my way over the past year to have my team shield that team, but I get nothing for it. I don't know why I, a relatively junior manager in a company with hundreds of managers, directors and VPs, thought it was my responsibility to solve a staffing issue, but I absolutely have to break myself of that mind set. If my infrastructure team is its own on call group, it hurts the application team? That's fine, it's the business's responsibility to address that, not mine.
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These guys just realized I am in a training class all next week, out of the country the following week, then I get married the weekend following that, then on a week long honeymoon and won't be back in the office until the third week of September. I can hear the PM's frustrations on their calls from my cube
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anthonypants posted:Before I saw this post I seriously thought they were telling you to learn how to fly a plane.
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Aug 15, 2017 18:54
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jaegerx posted:Seriously. It takes 30 minutes of your time. It took me a lot longer. Walk in passport services were consolidated to a single location, that's only open during my shift. I was able to get in there and it turns out my birth certificate isn't actually an original copy, so I had to go to vital records and get that first. Overall, it was maybe an hour of waiting in offices, three or four hours of driving back and forth to places trying to get the right paperwork. It wasn't wasted time of course. Now I have a birth certificate in case I need that for some reason. I'm just glad I have a cooperative employer and a car. Doing it by bus or something would have been a nightmare.
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Hmm so I'm going to be resigning late this week/Monday morning, however we have consultants coming in from Europe next week to bid on an SAP implementation. I'm supposed to be the IT resources assigned to this project. What I'm saying is, it's going to be really loving awkward these next two weeks.
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I sympathise with people who never take vacation because I used to be that way myself. There's a tendency in the United States to define yourself largely by what you do. Some old-school families look down on vacations as a waste of time and money when you could be "doing something" with your spare time. I was raised this way, and until my mid 20's I never took vacation. Then I got married, and I found out my wife's family goes somewhere every summer. I just came back from two weeks in Hawaii and I can highly recommend that if you''re one of those people who have never really taken time off for whatever reason, give it a try.
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