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Mister Kingdom posted:I think [AitF] was the first to have a toilet flush. This, and to even remotely refer to toilet functions, humorous or otherwise, was a big deal for the early 70's. Related to this: Fred Rogers showing the bathroom in his Television Home in order to show children they can never go down the drain (including the one in the toilet. This reminds me of another TV taboo: pregnancy. When Lucille Ball became pregnant with Desi Jr. they worked it into the series, but the episode had to be titled "Lucy is Enceinte" because the network felt "pregnant" was inappropriate (they even had to remove the word from the script). The Dick Van Dyke show has Laura announce "well, the rabbit died!" in response to how a doctor's appointment went which contemporary audiences would take to mean a positive pregnancy test (a common misconception was the "rabbit test" that used to be performed would always kill the rabbit on a positive result). That episode, "What's in a Middle Name," holds up wonderfully though.
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Sex and the City has someone buying an apartment in Manhattan and dozens of pairs of designer shoes despite writing one sex column a week. Plus, no Tinder. Samantha would be all over that poo poo.
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Aug 15, 2017 06:54
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Related to this: Fred Rogers showing the bathroom in his Television Home in order to show children they can never go down the drain (including the one in the toilet. 
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Aug 15, 2017 08:16
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:. Pathetic. And this is why we have safe spaces nowdays
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Aug 15, 2017 08:25
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SEX BURRITO posted:Sex and the City has someone buying an apartment in Manhattan and dozens of pairs of designer shoes despite writing one sex column a week. Virtually every sitcom set in New York seems to be about someone who has some nebulous do-nothing job at a magazine.
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Aug 15, 2017 10:24
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Wasn't there a parody article somewhere about Carrie losing her job during the recession or did I imagine that?
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Aug 15, 2017 10:27
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How many times has "rent-controlled" been used as a way to explain deadbeats living in NYC?
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Aug 15, 2017 10:28
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SEX BURRITO posted:Sex and the City has someone buying an apartment in Manhattan and dozens of pairs of designer shoes despite writing one sex column a week.  Carrie only rented the apartment and it was rent-controlled so that's the only reason she could afford it. When the building got bought she thought she was going to lose it and a wealthy architect gave her money to buy it after sleeping with her but she felt like a prostitute so she didn't take the money. Charlotte sold her engagement ring from Trey and bought the apartment for her. I haven't watched the show in years, that was just buried somewhere in my brain. Also can't a girl just have a show about living a luxurious life with all the Manolos she wants?!
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Aug 15, 2017 11:52
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oldpainless posted:Sex and the city is one of the worst shows ever made. more like oldaccurateness Foxhound posted:How many times has "rent-controlled" been used as a way to explain deadbeats living in NYC? Easier to count the ones that it wasn't, probably
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Aug 15, 2017 12:04
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Speaking of: more about a movie/stage show that didn't age well (if it was even decent to begin with) but here's a really good look back at Rent's two incarnations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qfFbtIj5w
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Aug 15, 2017 12:32
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Chrpno posted:Pathetic. And this is why we have safe spaces nowdays But you can't never go down the drain, Chrpno, you're too big to fit down there.  Edit: unless you live in the sewer and are lonely? Come up and visit!
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Aug 15, 2017 12:56
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:But you can't never go down the drain, Chrpno, you're too big to fit down there. Come down into the sewers and float with us. We all float down here
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Aug 15, 2017 12:59
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Aesop Poprock posted:Speaking of: more about a movie/stage show that didn't age well (if it was even decent to begin with) but here's a really good look back at Rent's two incarnations I saw Rent in 2003 on a field trip and I literally couldn't even believe how horrible the songs were. 525,000 Minutes is the least awful one. Light My Candle and La Vie Boheme made me envy the deaf.
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Aug 15, 2017 13:37
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Aesop Poprock posted:Speaking of: more about a movie/stage show that didn't age well (if it was even decent to begin with) but here's a really good look back at Rent's two incarnations David Rakoff did a brilliant monologue about why Rent is terrible: David Rakoff posted:There are 525,600 minutes in a year. I learned that from watching Rent. From watching Rent, I also learned that the best way to mark the passing of these 525,600 minutes would be to measure them out into something Jonathan Larson, the writer of the musical, called seasons of love. What does that even mean, seasons of love? TL;DR: You can listen to it here.
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Aug 15, 2017 14:35
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:David Rakoff did a brilliant monologue about why Rent is terrible: The video I posted is essentially that kind of stuff but more in depth and with really good film criticism/humor. If you haven't watched it I would really recommend it, along with al of chez Lindsay's other videos
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oldpainless posted:Come down into the sewers and float with us. We all float down here More like oldpennywise.... less...?
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Aug 15, 2017 15:14
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I carpooled to school for a year and the only thing the driver would listen to was Phantom of the Opera, Wicked, and Rent. When Rent is unambiguously the worst of those three boy howdy do you have a poo poo musical.
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Aug 15, 2017 15:36
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Oldpenniless. Obviously.
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Aesop Poprock posted:The video I posted is essentially that kind of stuff but more in depth and with really good film criticism/humor. If you haven't watched it I would really recommend it, along with al of chez Lindsay's other videos Apologies -- I don't usually check Youtube videos at work. Your post just reminded me of Rakoff's monologue. Will give it a look.
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Barudak posted:I carpooled to school for a year and the only thing the driver would listen to was Phantom of the Opera, Wicked, and Rent. When Rent is unambiguously the worst of those three boy howdy do you have a poo poo musical. Somehow I saw another Jonathon Larson work, Tick Tick Boom, in high school. Even as a snot-nosed kid I thought that it was a really banal and petty take on ~~the human condition~~. Larson was a horrible hack and if he hadn't died suddenly the morning of Rent's first preview show I don't think any of us would be saddled with his puerile bullshit for decades to come.
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Barudak posted:I carpooled to school for a year and the only thing the driver would listen to was Phantom of the Opera, Wicked, and Rent. When Rent is unambiguously the worst of those three boy howdy do you have a poo poo musical. I would've walked to work
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Aug 15, 2017 18:25
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So basically, the 'Everyone has AIDS' song from Team America is the best thing to come out of Rent?
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Aug 15, 2017 18:40
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Aesop Poprock posted:It produced this though which is one of the funniest scenes I can remember from the series The best part is 'I'm one part robot and three parts rear end in a top hat. URP." "JESUS CHRIST." That always gets me, every single time. SEX BURRITO posted:Sex and the City has someone buying an apartment in Manhattan and dozens of pairs of designer shoes despite writing one sex column a week. Wasn't Sex in the City partially produced by Aaron Spelling or some poo poo? Because that's usually one of his big things in the shows he produced: rich people as superheroes of glamour that, nowadays, is incredibly out of date and somewhat pathetic. In fact, do Aaron Spelling shows even translate to people from the '90s and beyond? I'm not talking about his '90s soaps like Melrose Place or the now-forgotten 90210, but Dynasty and all the other poo poo where being rich apparently meant everything was a Donald Trump wet dream with old world rococo stylings and the like. Eventually that whole '80s fad died out but I'll be damned if Aaron Spelling didn't really stop being relevant as soon as the new century happened and he just vanished completely. I'm sure he died sometime after 2000 (be hosed if I'm going to look) but for his creative output, I don't think anybody even mentions it anymore. It's kinda like Quinn Martin who seemed to vanish after 1981 and now is pretty much forgotten unless you're old or a big TV geek. Zamboni_Rodeo posted:David Rakoff did a brilliant monologue about why Rent is terrible: That's pretty much the same thing Ebert chastised "Reality Sucks" with: the idea that the artist label in the '90s was just a nice way to dress like you were auditioning for a grunge band and do nothing and excuse it by claiming you hadn't 'sold out.' Then again, my memories of the '90s were lovely TV, grunge overtaking rock and then flaming out big time shortly after, and then more hip hop/rap filtering into lame white America while the Internet made life infinitely more interesting. In fact, what we think of the '90s today really was just everything right up until the middle of the decade when all mainstream movies and music really really started to suck on ice as a lot of '80s sacred cows were butchered or forced into direct-to-video poo poo.
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YeahTubaMike posted:I saw Rent in 2003 on a field trip and I literally couldn't even believe how horrible the songs were. 525,000 Minutes is the least awful one. Light My Candle and La Vie Boheme made me envy the deaf. Out Tonight and One Song Glory are fun songs. I also think Seasons of Love is fine but I never want to hear it again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02mbEwyy7hQ
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Inescapable Duck posted:So basically, the 'Everyone has AIDS' song from Team America is the best thing to come out of Rent? The fact that everyone in Rent doesnt have aids is a mark against it, honestly.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:That's pretty much the same thing Ebert chastised "Reality Sucks" with: the idea that the artist label in the '90s was just a nice way to dress like you were auditioning for a grunge band and do nothing and excuse it by claiming you hadn't 'sold out.' Then again, my memories of the '90s were lovely TV, grunge overtaking rock and then flaming out big time shortly after, and then more hip hop/rap filtering into lame white America while the Internet made life infinitely more interesting. In fact, what we think of the '90s today really was just everything right up until the middle of the decade when all mainstream movies and music really really started to suck on ice as a lot of '80s sacred cows were butchered or forced into direct-to-video poo poo. She actually makes a reference to Reality Bites in the Rent video as a comparison cause she did one on it as well when she was the nostalgia chick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o26AVJYTMcg
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I know a dude who had a miniscule, tiny part in an am-dram version of Rent (he was the policeman who says "Right") and he ended up getting a tattoo of "Lover, I'll Cover You" on his forearms and let a dog gently caress him and eventually had to get hospital treatment because he'd gotten fisted too bad. Rent: Not even once.
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Disgusting Coward posted:I know a dude who had a miniscule, tiny part in an am-dram version of Rent (he was the policeman who says "Right") and he ended up getting a tattoo of "Lover, I'll Cover You" on his forearms and let a dog gently caress him and eventually had to get hospital treatment because he'd gotten fisted too bad. This escalated quickly
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The episode where she's mistaken for a prostitute is a different one. Charlotte gives her the ring as a down payment, but even so I don't know how she'd get a mortgage. You're right that it was a rent controlled apartment before it got sold. I am amazed that her column even brought her one pair of $400 shoes (in 90s money!) Time for a rewatch. If only to watch the episode where Samantha flirts with a charming billionaire called Donald Trump.
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Disgusting Coward posted:I know a dude who had a miniscule, tiny part in an am-dram version of Rent (he was the policeman who says "Right") and he ended up getting a tattoo of "Lover, I'll Cover You" on his forearms and let a dog gently caress him and eventually had to get hospital treatment because he'd gotten fisted too bad. So was he like upfront about the last two things or... I mean... how did you know this dude and how did this become public knowledge
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Doesn't rent-control usually only apply to people who live in a place at the time the rent-control is enacted, and then the landlord can jack up the rent when the old tenant leaves and a new one moves in? So any of these people in these shows buying or wanting to move into so-called "rent-controlled" buildings wouldn't be getting that sweet low rent anyway, right?
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Disgusting Coward posted:I know a dude who had a miniscule, tiny part in an am-dram version of Rent (he was the policeman who says "Right") and he ended up getting a tattoo of "Lover, I'll Cover You" on his forearms and let a dog gently caress him and eventually had to get hospital treatment because he'd gotten fisted too bad. I knew Morally Inept was into some heinous poo poo, but... musicals?
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SEX BURRITO posted:The episode where she's mistaken for a prostitute is a different one. Charlotte gives her the ring as a down payment, but even so I don't know how she'd get a mortgage. You're right that it was a rent controlled apartment before it got sold. I am amazed that her column even brought her one pair of $400 shoes (in 90s money!) I'd love to rewatch Sex in the City and wish it was on Netflix. Total turn off brain show. I'm glad she ruined things with Aiden, she didn't deserve him
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A generic complaint but as someone who enjoys mysteries and police procedurals its really annoying when the solution to the mystery relies on knowing the intricacies of a piece of technology which became obsolete 3 years after the 40 year episode aired. Columbo was really bad about this. My favorite episode is the magician one thanks to the murderer being played by 3-time guest star Jack Cassidy who earned that spot by having amazing chemistry with Falk, the disposable sidekick completely falling for Cassidy's alibi making a great contrast with Columbo and Cassidy's motive of hiding his past as a Nazi war criminal being arguably the strongest and most interesting in the series. Then the solution ends up relying on [spoiler]knowing the difference between typewriters with balls and ones with ribbons and it sucks having it rely on something nobody under the age of 40 would pick up on because the writers at the time assumed it common knowledge.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:A generic complaint but as someone who enjoys mysteries and police procedurals its really annoying when the solution to the mystery relies on knowing the intricacies of a piece of technology which became obsolete 3 years after the 40 year episode aired. I remember that episode! I don't think the writers thought it was common knowledge, because they go to lengths to explain early in the episode how that's a fancy typewriter that uses a carbon ribbon instead of ink and the sidekick used one at the academy I haven't watched that episode in years, and I'm only on season 2 rewatching it.
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Disgusting Coward posted:I know a dude who had a miniscule, tiny part in an am-dram version of Rent (he was the policeman who says "Right") and he ended up getting a tattoo of "Lover, I'll Cover You" on his forearms and let a dog gently caress him and eventually had to get hospital treatment because he'd gotten fisted too bad.
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YeahTubaMike posted:I saw Rent in 2003 on a field trip and I literally couldn't even believe how horrible the songs were. 525,000 Minutes is the least awful one. Light My Candle and La Vie Boheme made me envy the deaf. I had friends in High School who loved Rent, and especially loved La Vie Boheme. Any time we hung out, if there were two or more of them together, they would play, and sing, La Vie Boheme. Over, and over, and over again. Song ended? Start it again! At least an hour before they decided they'd sung it enough, for the time being. It's no dog loving, for sure though. catlord has a new favorite as of 22:19 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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It's kind of a meta-aging thing rather than something inherent to the show, but most of the true crime podcasts I listen to at work are now long-running enough to be really off into the weeds with lesser-known crimes, and the number of SVU reruns I watch where I'm like "ohhh, that's totally meant to be that guy" is increasing exponentially.
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Aesop Poprock posted:So was he like upfront about the last two things or... I mean... how did you know this dude and how did this become public knowledge He was a friend of my then-girlfriend, and we all knew each other socially through volunteering stuff. She's super nice and really bad about telling creeps to git and he kept telling her how he'd fallen in with this older dramabomb lady [she played Maureen, natch] and how it went from her banging him with a strapon to her fisting him to her footing him to her encouraging a dog* to bone him and he's like "don't tell anyone" and she's constantly thrusting the phone at me while I'm trying to eat a nice risotto or maybe play my stylophone all JESUS gently caress LOOK WHAT HE'S DONE NOW OH MY GOD WHAT DO I SAY IN RESPONSE. Eventually he phoned her one night needing a lift home from the hospital after he got his rear end fisted right the gently caress out of his body and she was like "okay dude we're quits now you're just too messed up". I run into him quite a lot and I always greet him with a "Hi, dogfucker" which is a bad thing to do because really, the dog hosed him so it should be "dogfuckee". For the record, I was once in an am-dram Little Shop of Horrors [I was Orin Scrivello] and I have never engaged in sex with any dog APART FROM YOUR MUM therefore Rent is scientifically terrible. EDIT: Also the tattoo has the a comma between "cover" and "you" so do not watch Rent. *border collie cross, name of "Reaver"
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:Doesn't rent-control usually only apply to people who live in a place at the time the rent-control is enacted, and then the landlord can jack up the rent when the old tenant leaves and a new one moves in? So any of these people in these shows buying or wanting to move into so-called "rent-controlled" buildings wouldn't be getting that sweet low rent anyway, right? My understanding of the situation (from watching a bunch of Law & Order) is that rent control would stay if you were related to the person who originally lived there when the price was fixed. So you can't just move in to a rent controlled apartment, you have to have some kind of "in."
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