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OWLS! posted:I rewatched the movie last night. You are a bad person
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I really really really dislike Family guy, from Day 1. However, the Family guy star wars parody movie had one bit I liked. I thought the whole running gag with the couch was great. Doesn't really redeem the whole series or even the rest of that one movie, but there you go.
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facebook jihad posted:I never 'got' Ren and Stimpy and thought/think it was/is gross. I guess it was groundbreaking for a kids show but I was more of a Doug kid personally Uggh Doug was awful. It pretty much marked the end of wacky-zany cartoons and the start of the characters-deal-with-real-teen-issues plague.
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Cyril Sneer posted:the characters-deal-with-real-teen-issues plague. Is that really a big problem now though? Cartoons used to tackle SERIOUS ISSUES all the time before Doug and it was even more silly and exhausting when it's like Winnie the Pooh vs. drug dealers. Doug just whines about his crush and bullies and stuff right? Seems hard to blame for anything. I never watched Doug but I like that they gave the characters just random skin colors, like blue. I wish more shows did that, and not just the one that everyone rags on for being lame!
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Cyril Sneer posted:Uggh Doug was awful. It pretty much marked the end of wacky-zany cartoons and the start of the characters-deal-with-real-teen-issues plague. Eh I dunno Doug had really weird surreal wacky moments. I'm not sure there were any Nick cartoons I can think of that were just teen drama stuff all the time. Even Hey Arnold which was probably the closest in feeling to Doug was wacky and was still a good show
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Cyril Sneer posted:Uggh Doug was awful. It pretty much marked the end of wacky-zany cartoons and the start of the characters-deal-with-real-teen-issues plague. No it didn't lol. In the 90's on Nick alone you had Rocko, Ahh Real Monsters, Kablam, Angry Beavers, CatDog, and Spongebob, which all came after Doug. And then all the stuff like Animaniacs and Dexter's lab. It was the early 00's where more of the nicktoons were dealing with teen "drama."
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I've always wondered, in the "Don't Whizz on the Electric Fence" bit from Ren & Stimpy, is that Devil's face and/or voice meant to be someone in particular?
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Aug 16, 2017 20:19
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Fried Watermelon posted:Remember Pepper Anne? Yeah it was good
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Aug 16, 2017 21:29
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Didn't read 55 pages, but has anyone mentioned that Marge raped Homer once.
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Aug 16, 2017 21:32
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Only once?
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Code Jockey posted:Well, at the time this was the appeal to me, it was just so weird and gross and we didn't have the internet back then to fulfill our weird and gross quota, sooo yeah exactly in terms of mainstream American kids cartoons there was nothing at all like it and that was a big part of the appeal, like "I cant believe they allow stuff this gross on tv" Cyril Sneer posted:Uggh Doug was awful. It pretty much marked the end of wacky-zany cartoons and the start of the characters-deal-with-real-teen-issues plague. no not at all. Peanuts dealt with exactly the same "real issues" as Doug and was even mopier about it
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Doug just sucked, and chances are if you liked it you're now a full-grown wiener.
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I'm glad everybody is enjoying my thread but could you shut up about 90s Nickelodeon cartoons
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Aug 16, 2017 21:59
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It's a pornography store. I was buying pornography
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Aug 16, 2017 22:11
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Remember the episode of the Simpsons where homer thought his middle eastern neighbors were terrorists.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Doug just sucked, and chances are if you liked it you're now a full-grown wiener. You're right. I did like Doug. And now I'm a full-grown wiener
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The_Rob posted:Remember the episode of the Simpsons where homer thought his middle eastern neighbors were terrorists. That was season 20 and that was the episode that really made it abandon Simpsons. Mid way through that episode I was done, I turned off, and now I realize that was 8 seasons ago, i.e. almost the whole run of good Simpsons-
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Riptor posted:It's a pornography store. I was buying pornography the simpsons was so loving good at its best god drat
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The plans Homer saw when he hacked into their computer really were plans to blow up the mall.quote:Later that evening, while going to their home to apologize, Homer catches a glimpse of Bashir's father working with TNT in his garage; due to a nightmare featuring the Genie of Aladdin in which he transforms Homer's "decadent, Western society" into a stereotypical Islamic republic, he decides to eavesdrop on Bashir's parents talking about Bashir's father's job in building demolition, but misses part of the conversation and thinks that Bashir's father is a suicide bomber. As soon as the father departs for work, Homer convinces Bashir's mother to invite him in for a proper pardoning of his dinner prejudice. In reality, he hacks into the family's laptop and discovers a diagram of demolition plans for the Springfield Mall. Homer runs into the mall and gets everyone out, then tosses the dynamite onto a nearby bridge. It turns out the mall was supposed to be demolished and he ruined everything. He throws a party to apologize to Bashir's family. From the classic episode, MyPods and Boomsticks, about ten years ago. Muslim organizations praised the inclusion of a professional Muslim family but unfortunately they would never again have a plot-relevant role. Nah I'm just loving with you, I made that poo poo up 
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Cobweb Heart posted:Nah I'm just loving with you, I made that poo poo up I was going to say you could write for the Simpsons but [turn to look at camera Steven Colbert style] who couldn't am I right haha
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poo poo is weak posted:Didn't read 55 pages, but has anyone mentioned that Marge raped Homer once. Yes and also Homer has been raped for laughs at least 3 times now. Once by Marge, once by a panda, and once after being drugged by a pharmacist he was dating.
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Fried Watermelon posted:Remember Pepper Anne? Very vague memory of Pepper Ann outside a few episodes, but one of the ones I do remember is a cartoon based on a Xena/WW-type comic character that she and her sibling were fans of that turned the main heroine into a sort of "I like shopping and boys" stereotype. They complained and in response the producers of the cartoon listened and relaunched the show based on that: The warrior maiden was changed to the far further direction of being an equally unpopular extreme of a super blood-thirsty and violent anti-hero.
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i was exposed in close proximity to those kinds of fans for four years, that's a good reasonThe_Rob posted:Remember the episode of the Simpsons where homer thought his middle eastern neighbors were terrorists.
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berth ell pup posted:I contend the Deep Space Homer (s5) is the first truly bad simpsons episode. The premise is contrived, and they guest voices (aldrin?) were poorly done. Some people just can't be voice actors. I bet it took 100 takes to get a suitable "Careful! They're rippled!" and the one they used is still pretty bad. 
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Yeah I just watched this episode the other day and the delivery of that line is fuckin' perfect t  I dunno if it was intentionally that deadpan or if that's just how it came out but it was great
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Apologies if this has already been discussed, but here's a question- whose retirement or death (if any) will end the show? Would they recast Homer and the rest of Dan Castellanetta's character? Would they go on without Hank Azaria? Were they prepared to go on when it looked like Harry Shearer had had enough?
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General Dog posted:Would they recast Homer and the rest of Dan Castellanetta's character? Dan will just be replaced by televisions number one goofy dad, Kevin James 
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At this point our only hope of the Simpsons ending is if the main voice actors die, probably of natural causes
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Phlegmish posted:At this point our only hope of the Simpsons ending is if the main voice actors die, probably of natural causes there is already technology where you can record someone's voice, then type out a sentence on a computer, and essentially recreate that person's voice synthetically and make them "say" whatever you type. the tech is still in its early days and kind of buggy but its good enough that they will probably have it sorted by the time the main voice actors die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l4XLZ59iw
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i hope they get nick mullen to voice homer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiqZk_KkiG8
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I watched this last night, it's a pretty great breakdown of the rise and fall of The Simpsons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFNbCcyFkk
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Earwicker posted:there is already technology where you can record someone's voice, then type out a sentence on a computer, and essentially recreate that person's voice synthetically and make them "say" whatever you type. the tech is still in its early days and kind of buggy but its good enough that they will probably have it sorted by the time the main voice actors die. Our descendants 800,000 years from now will still be watching new Simpsons episodes in their Morlock tunnels
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Extremely vague question, but what's the longest a good show has lasted without a precipitous decline? Seems like for comedies it's extremely rare to go five seasons without a noticeable drop. Always Sunny had an impressive run, but it's clearly running out of gas at this point. I know Cheers ran forever and people liked it, I've never watched so I don't have an opinion.
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General Dog posted:Extremely vague question, but what's the longest a good show has lasted without a precipitous decline? Seems like for comedies it's extremely rare to go five seasons without a noticeable drop. Always Sunny had an impressive run, but it's clearly running out of gas at this point. There's usually a sort of Gauss curve with (worthwhile) entertainment products, where it starts out rough, they eventually hit their stride and enter a golden age (seasons 3-8/9 for the Simpsons), before inevitably running out of ideas and having the scenarios and writing become increasingly uninspired and self-referential. The Simpsons is just unique in that the 'decline' period is now the vast majority of their run
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General Dog posted:Extremely vague question, but what's the longest a good show has lasted without a precipitous decline? Seems like for comedies it's extremely rare to go five seasons without a noticeable drop. Always Sunny had an impressive run, but it's clearly running out of gas at this point. I don't think Seinfeld ever declined and it ran, what 8-9 years? I think a decade or so is the sweet spot, maybe a little less. After that you've probably used up all the good ideas you have.
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Phlegmish posted:There's usually a sort of Gauss curve with (worthwhile) entertainment products, where it starts out rough, they eventually hit their stride and enter a golden age (seasons 3-8/9 for the Simpsons), before inevitably running out of ideas and having the scenarios and writing become increasingly uninspired and self-referential. To be fair, the Simpsons' golden age was extraordinarily long as well, even though it's been eclipsed by what came after.
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Phlegmish posted:There's usually a sort of Gauss curve with (worthwhile) entertainment products, where it starts out rough, they eventually hit their stride and enter a golden age (seasons 3-8/9 for the Simpsons), before inevitably running out of ideas and having the scenarios and writing become increasingly uninspired and self-referential. Yeah, if it wasn't for that, it would be very fondly remembered as one of the greats
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WampaLord posted:I don't think Seinfeld ever declined and it ran, what 8-9 years? Seinfeld sucked when Larry David left after season 7
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