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Icedude
Mar 30, 2004

So I just got the maximum Wanted Level or whatever it's called while re-taking a legion outpost, and instead of one of those tough robot minibosses showing up Hammersmith showed up to fight me instead. I had no idea that was even a thing that could happen!

Also Legion re-taking control of areas without any notification is the worst, stupidest design decision because you lose all the collected income from Relic's stores when it happens :argh:

e: and way WAY too quick. Took out the outpost in the southwest, got the relic business there, went to the outpost in the northeast, got the relic business there, and the southwest was already retaken :nallears:

Aphrodite posted:

And what gives Intel for global conflict stuff? I'm all out.
High ranking Legion dudes drop it. Go kill some stuff for a while.

Icedude fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Aug 20, 2017

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Oh, that makes sense. I was bouncing between deploying GC and doing side stuff, so not much killing going on.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Aphrodite posted:

Oh, that makes sense. I was bouncing between deploying GC and doing side stuff, so not much killing going on.

As an unrelated "How I grind X?" reminder. The cars that only say they need 1 schematic are plot unlocks. So you can unlock both APCs, the attrazione, etc. But can't unlock the big pickup truck, or mongoose you see Legion agents driving until the plot just hands you one.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
This is an alright, fun game, but the animation is just loving awful, and the writing keeps trying to be funny, but it just ends up falling flat on its face most of the time. When the jokes are funny, they're pretty drat funny, but for every good joke there's five lovely jokes. The game keeps opening plot lines for all its characters, while only resolving about a fourth of them, probably leaving room for future DLC missions. Speaking of characters, you'll see characters like Kingpin, a charismatic gang lord who helped bring the gangs of Stilwater together and successfully fended off Legion when they invaded, or you'll get stupid loving characters like Red Card, a German soccer fan that beat up some legion at a soccer game. I also hate Gremlin, she talks like a twelve year old and never shuts the gently caress up, kinda like this game. The combat is pretty fun once you realize it's trying to be Crackdown more than Saints Row, but there's so much frustrating "What killed me" and "Holy gently caress this turret/tanktrooper instantly depletes my health and takes like three minutes to kill on the recommended difficulty" moments. The bosses just loving suck to fight, they're either a complete joke or they instantly take a character down to their last breath in one hit.

Would I say get this game? Maybe when the GOTY edition comes out. I feel the game is incomplete in its current state.

edit: Also if you did not know, this game doesn't have multiplayer. It would be a thousand times better with co-op, and some of the characters (see: red card) feel like they were made for co-op.

spit on my clit fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Aug 20, 2017

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
It's so frustrating that the Relic trading stations reset whenever their corresponding outpost is taken by Legion. It just incentivizes you to get all 4 trading stations in one session, teleport back to the ark, and idle there for hours to farm money.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

RatHat posted:

It's so frustrating that the Relic trading stations reset whenever their corresponding outpost is taken by Legion. It just incentivizes you to get all 4 trading stations in one session, teleport back to the ark, and idle there for hours to farm money.

THEY DO?!

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Maybe if you were a REAL GAMER you'd have the instincts to sit on that sweet spots between all four Relic shops opening, but before losing relic shops activates, for your early upgrade unlocks :smug:

But nah it's pretty poo poo :v: Though today my defeat is that this is the 5th time the game has frozen, crashed, or otherwise required me to close it and pray things work.

New legion tactic. Not only do they take back the outpost you just cleared five seconds ago when returning to the Ark, they don't let you get back to the Ark in the first place.

For serious though, my bigger issue outside of the Relic annoyance is the Cross coverage and "In aggro range of spawn points". Them refreshing so often in general means a steady influx of upgrade containers that doesn't required using the annoying global leader board contracts. It's how aggressive they are in stacking on top of eachother and giving you the runaround with Relic that's the main issue.

Getting tired of breaking hate machines, watching explosive civilians still pop up right next to it's remains. And wonder "Okay... Are hate machines just bugged, or is this because there are two more of the loving things within 98 meters of here according to my mission list?". Meaning I just suck it up and let explosive civilians try to interrupt me when I'm going after fracking machines or other stuff because destroying hate machines, and only go after them if I feel like a quick chance at an upgrade core.

I'm glad we have all these options for materials and upgrade cores. It's just overkill how much cross coverage they give eachother, between the obvious bugs, things leaving you wondering if it IS a bug (Dear drop pod launcher. Please stop giving yourself infinite reinforcements so I ignore you unless I brought a master hacker to just beefwall auto hack the console), and lost Relic cash.

Section Z fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Aug 20, 2017

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


Got a fun bug where enemies aren't spawning in the Rama investigation mission, therefore rendering me unable to finish it.
And now also my HUD just decided to gently caress off for the day.

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy

SmallpoxJenkins posted:

Got a fun bug where enemies aren't spawning in the Rama investigation mission, therefore rendering me unable to finish it.
And now also my HUD just decided to gently caress off for the day.

I've had the spawning issue happen in three or four different missions and each time it was fixed by restarting from checkpoint.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Timotheous Venture posted:

I don't have the game so I can't test it, but I saw a things-I-wish-I'd-known article about AoM stating that Legion reclaims an outpost whenever you go back to your base/hub. Apparently the developers wanted to encourage you to stay out in the world or something.
Yeah this is a questionable gameplay decision. Especially because part of the fun of this game actually is doing things with different squads as well as gearing them up with whatever new poo poo you've found. It would probably make more sense to have this on a timer of some sort.

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


Viridiant posted:

I've had the spawning issue happen in three or four different missions and each time it was fixed by restarting from checkpoint.

Went out of bounds to force fail the mission, but that didn't fix my Hud issue, only force closing the game did

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

SmallpoxJenkins posted:

Got a fun bug where enemies aren't spawning in the Rama investigation mission, therefore rendering me unable to finish it.
And now also my HUD just decided to gently caress off for the day.

Yeah I've had missions bug out like that quite often, I had to restart from checkpoint to fix it.

Also I had a bug today where my UI completely disappeared and I had to close and relaunch the game to fix it.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
I wish Pierce had some commentary for the fact he's the one trucking along like a badass while Johnny "+20% crits shotgun headshots deals 95% trash mob health" Gat keeps eating pavement and it's no loving wonder he's got a legion tech a based around dropping a grenade when he dies.

Speaking of frequent causes of enemy spike damage, it appears enemies either take little, or no damage, from their own AoE spam. Makes actually interrupting grenade tosses that much more lackluster. Or when you kill a shocktrooper and his self destruct leaves all the regular troopers around him still with 90% of their health so that's probably just from you accidentally winging them earlier, etc.


RatHat posted:

Also I had a bug today where my UI completely disappeared and I had to close and relaunch the game to fix it.

Same.

Section Z fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Aug 20, 2017

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


They take none.
I was fighting a group on some bridge over on the beach, and interrupted a grenade throw. They all ticked for immune on that grenade damage.
Also just had another bug where I got stuck in an infinite loading screen after taking a stronghold.
Jesus loving christ, that's like 3 gamebreaking bugs in the span of an hour

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Oni spin off game when

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
I was reclaiming a relic point and nobody was spawning. So I quit it, kited a random Legion goon into range and started the relic pint again. Killed the goon and the mission got flagged as done.

I can't tell if foot races despawn when you complete them (and get the skin) or what. Can you do the one race over and over to farm all the skins? They don't give high scores or anything so I can't tell if I've already done them or not if I come back to the game after a while... Until I start the race and realise I've done it before.

I hope what I'm trying to say there is clear.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Side stuff is endlessly generated.

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere

Aphrodite posted:

And what gives Intel for global conflict stuff? I'm all out.

The handcuffs on the map give intel, somewhere between 4-8 per event. They are the ones where you just bubble the hostage and blow up the bomb so they are really quick and easy.

My A-Team is Braddock, Oni and Hollywood. Rama's basic attack might be better than Oni's with good aim, but I like his special and mayhem abilities way more. Hollywood's spot is kind of up in the air, I don't think anyone else is near as good as Braddock and Oni. Game is pretty fun, my only complaint is the lair's are too samey and the story missions have you do way too many of them.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
So the third Persephone history video gives a list of agents she recruited on top of the ones playable


Doomsday (Luther Shelby);
Crash Cart (Mason Cross);
Socket (Olav Kasperon);
Sable (Ilsa van Der Walt);
Houston (Holly Tanaka);
Coyote (Maddie Greyeyes); and
Safeword (Kinzie Kensington).


(Lazarus - the currently console exclusive preorder - was also there but her codename was Dynamo)

So, future add-on content or just easter eggs?

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

Mokinokaro posted:

So the third Persephone history video gives a list of agents she recruited on top of the ones playable


Doomsday (Luther Shelby);
Crash Cart (Mason Cross);
Socket (Olav Kasperon);
Sable (Ilsa van Der Walt);
Houston (Holly Tanaka);
Coyote (Maddie Greyeyes); and
Safeword (Kinzie Kensington).


(Lazarus - the currently console exclusive preorder - was also there but her codename was Dynamo)

So, future add-on content or just easter eggs?

With the reception the game got, id say only easter eggs now.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What does Knob11 and Game mean in the Audio settings....why couldn't it be straight forward

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

A. Beaverhausen posted:

With the reception the game got, id say only easter eggs now.

Which sucks. Game reminds me a lot of BroForce in a bizarre parallel way. I'd love to play with tonnes of new agents.

I'm also wondering if the game could have been improved by making it more streamlined and removing the open world map. Only because if they did that they could have made the RNG dungeons more varied. Like if the whole game was accessed via the world map and different bases in different countries would have various themes or something. I'm probably in the tiny minority there, but while Seoul looks great and has some fun bits to nose around it feels more like a giant hub to access the bases more than anything else with these real weird little side quests. (which could have been tied into the bases, maybe?) loving ignore me, I'm just thinking of a completely different game now, aren't I? BroForce meets Diablo.

edit: Speaking of Lazarus, when does she unlock? I'm half wat through Steeltoe's missions and I pre-ordered, got my TV/Movies skins, but no Lazarus. edit: Timed unlock. Why though? I thought being a pre-order bonus would be just that... A bonus.

Diesel Fucker fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Aug 20, 2017

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Yeah on PC (and gamestop preorders for console) you get Gat. Everyone else on consoles get Lazarus who isn't even available until sometime next month.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I like this game. It's basically third person super hero borderlands without loot.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Snipers are just the loving worst.

glasses-idiot
Oct 23, 2014

please stop yelling at my pregnant wife
I really wanted something like a Saints Row 5 w/writing quality, level design, goofs, etc. I'm enjoying this game but I think the only thing keeping me playing is the chance that there may be more Saint's Row plot tie-in -

the rifts that scheherazade closes with that amulet, what's up with that? do they connect AoM directly to SR? what's up with oleg and pierce and persephone and Aisha? I guess I'm just thinking that there's more of a connection to SR than I initially thought.

I really, really like the Saint's Row franchise and was willing to take the plunge here. I'm hoping that there's some light at the end of the tunnel.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
My biggest problem is just how quiet everything is. There's like no foley or anything. It's bland.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Mokinokaro posted:

So, future add-on content or just easter eggs?

Gat has dialogue where he tries to call Kinzie and he gets uh...Braddock I think instead?

ExHumus
Aug 30, 2006

BOOM BOOM!!
If we do see DLC agents beyond Gat and Lazarus, I expect we'll get Kinzie. The AMA they did on Reddit showed that there was demand for her, and she was clearly already on their radar.

Stanko-Prussian
May 22, 2006

CLEAN YOUR ROOM!, 'they' said.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!, 'they' said.
WHY ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH A CARTOON PONY, 'they' said.
FOR GODSAKE! STOP SHOWING US YOUR BLACKHOLE'!! 'they' said.

When I lit the match....STOP SCREAMING, 'I' said

ExHumus posted:

If we do see DLC agents beyond Gat and Lazarus, I expect we'll get Kinzie. The AMA they did on Reddit showed that there was demand for her, and she was clearly already on their radar.

as well as in the vids, safeword is mentioned in the present tense in gat's profile

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Ohhhhh you can manually edit your character loadout at the bottom of the ship, next to the dark matter crystal. This whole time I've just been queuing into a mission and then backing out.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Icedude posted:

So I just got the maximum Wanted Level or whatever it's called while re-taking a legion outpost, and instead of one of those tough robot minibosses showing up Hammersmith showed up to fight me instead. I had no idea that was even a thing that could happen!

Also Legion re-taking control of areas without any notification is the worst, stupidest design decision because you lose all the collected income from Relic's stores when it happens :argh:

e: and way WAY too quick. Took out the outpost in the southwest, got the relic business there, went to the outpost in the northeast, got the relic business there, and the southwest was already retaken :nallears:
High ranking Legion dudes drop it. Go kill some stuff for a while.

I've had Hammersmith show up during the fracking events as well.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
So looks like Kinzie is pretty much confirmed

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

RatHat posted:

Ohhhhh you can manually edit your character loadout at the bottom of the ship, next to the dark matter crystal. This whole time I've just been queuing into a mission and then backing out.

Going to the Wreck Room and backing out is faster though.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"
Yeti has a Panthro skin.

TEN OUT OF THE TEN/REFERENCE OF THE YEAR

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
Keith David DLC PLZ

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

Welp! Looks like my wife is getting a Steam copy of this game.

Just need Shaundi.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Zaa Boogie posted:

Yeti has a Panthro skin.

TEN OUT OF THE TEN/REFERENCE OF THE YEAR

Oh I was wondering who that was referencing. Speaking of which, who is Fortune's cosplay outfit supposed to be?

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Star Lord. :haw:

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RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Wait, really? The red eyes look weird when they're not on a helmet

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