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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Gridlocked posted:

Can some do a list of all designations for ships? I STILL dont know what DDG means.
Combat Ships:
AC: Beam Corvette
CE: Missile Corvette
FR: Frigate
DD: Destroyer
DDG Destroyer (Guided) [missile destroyer]
CL: Light Cruiser
CLAA: Light Cruiser (AA focused) [in space "anti-air" also apparently includes PD against missiles as well as shooting down fighters]
CAA: Cruiser (AA focused) [Heavier than a CLAA, our specific version has dual-purpose laser turrets that can kill both ships and fighters/missiles]
CG Cruiser (Guided) [Missile cruiser]
CA: Cruiser (Armored) [Heavy beam/gun cruiser]
BC: Battlecruiser [Guns and size of a battleship, speed and armor of a cruiser]
BB: Battleship
CVL: Carrier (Light)
CV: Fleet Carrier
PDC: Planetary Defense Center

Support ships:
LS: Landing Ship
LSD: Landing Ship (Dock) [This variant deploys its troops via dispatching dropships that are docked to it, getting them into combat instantly instead of taking time to unload]
FS: Fleet Scout
AO: Fleet Oiler/Tender [Sometimes also referred to as FSV's for Fleet Support Vessels]

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Aug 21, 2017

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Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!



30 April, 1118hrs

Fox three!


The enemy fighters don't even see the missiles coming.


Splash three!


Three are destroyed by the missile salvo while another two spin out, engines shredded. Two more limp towards home and one of the fighter-scouts is slowed by a third.



The lone scout on picket duty is wiped out a few seconds later.

30 April, 1129hrs

A second salvo exhausts the missile stocks. It is targeted to sweep up the remaining fighter-scouts and as many of the fighters as possible.


A scout is destroyed and several other fighters crippled.


The damaged fleeing scout is destroyed and only 30/40 of the enemy fighters remain combat capable. Four are crippled, two are destroyed and four are limping home with severe damage.


The suddenly blind IC missile fighters turn to flee and the type 8 gunships are dispatched to hunt them down.


Unfortunately two more fighter-scouts are spotted closing in from the Northwest and East. Kommando spots and opportunity and leads the Type 8's in a maximum power charge to finish off the IC cripples before the scouts can close in to see them again.



Hurtling past the first pair at 8000kps Kommando and Otter blow them away with ease.


Further north another pair are blown apart in the easiest kills of their career.


Having spotted the typ 8's the IC turns and attempts to entrap our brave pilots!


The race is on!


Spotting another opportunity a type 8 peels off to go after the unescorted fighter-scout. As it does a pair of Aquisitions swing onto an intercept vector.


The Profit class scout runs for home but the Type 8 is much faster and closes the range quickly.


Unfortunately the type 8 has gotten close eough the Profit can light it up for the enemy missiles and twenty swing in from the rear. The fighter dodges desperately and only 6 hit but an engine goes critical tearing out another two and the fighter slows to only 3200kps.


The rest of the fighters escape while another two IC fighters turn to finish off the crippled Type 8.




You shall ride Eternal, Shiny, and chrome brave fighter crew.


While the fighter drama was ongong the main fleets have closed to 46m km, the very edge of missile range.


The enemy carriers are hanging back at 100m km, well beyond the reach of our ships missiles.

Saros fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Aug 21, 2017

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!
A lot of casualties, I think it is about time my son was rolled out of the academy?

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

Sad King Billy posted:

A lot of casualties, I think it is about time my son was rolled out of the academy?

Sad Prince Billy isn't ready

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

If people want fighter postings put your hand up but your survivability is going to be relatively low.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Guys I think Azathoth just ate the sun, ask Facility how to fix it tia

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Crazycryodude posted:

Guys I think Azathoth just ate the sun, ask Facility how to fix it tia

Uh...what

what the gently caress do you mean the sun's been eaten

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


It's ok it came back, maybe he didn't like it.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
Nah, that was just Earth's newest boat, CVX Mothership. Should be finishing loading up the cryo trays soon.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Crazycryodude posted:

It's ok it came back, maybe he didn't like it.


What do you mean it came ba-

...

Cryo that's an eclipse. Are you sure you're qualified to be in the space forces?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I'm so qualified that I'm one decompressed flag bridge away from being able to take the whole fleet and drive sunward to look for the dragon that keeps eating the loving sun. :argh:

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Crazycryodude posted:

I'm so qualified that I'm one decompressed flag bridge away from being able to take the whole fleet and drive sunward to look for the dragon that keeps eating the loving sun. :argh:

I'd make a cynical comment about that, but it'd be a touch hypocritical given that's how I got command of the Triton defense fleet and all of the glory from it.

Speaking of which, where the hell am I Saros? Am I still in orbit over Triton, being adorned with medals while the rest of the fleet is in imminent danger?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Good ratios but there are a hell of a lot more of their fighters still in the fight.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Dr. Snark posted:

I'd make a cynical comment about that, but it'd be a touch hypocritical given that's how I got command of the Triton defense fleet and all of the glory from it.

Speaking of which, where the hell am I Saros? Am I still in orbit over Triton, being adorned with medals while the rest of the fleet is in imminent danger?



Slowly but surely squeaking your way to the top of Triton Fleet. Currently over Titan while command dithers about what to do.

Generally the spreadsheet will have your assignments and location.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Saros posted:

Slowly but surely squeaking your way to the top of Triton Fleet. Currently over Titan while command dithers about what to do.

Generally the spreadsheet will have your assignments and location.

I should hope I'm at upper command at minimum, I'm a goddamn war hero after leading the kills of those IC carriers :argh:

But seriously thanks, I could have sworn I was somewhere else but, uh, obviously I'm not.

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!
Speaking of commands, what's the possibility of moving up to bigger ships as our tech improves? I have no idea how long construction takes in this game.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
Aurora construction takes a long time. Outfitting a shipyard to produce a new ship model can take 3-6 months, and construction times are often double that.

You can speed up ship construction by pre-building engines & other designed systems planetside, but that will only shave maybe 25% off your times.

Shipyard construction is very scalable, though. A shipyard with 2 slipways can build 2 ships at once, 3 slipways for 3 at once, etc, and it doesn't take a 3 slipway yard a full 3x as much time to re-tool as a 1 slipway yard. It's actually much easier to keep spitting out an older design than to re-tool and start rolling out new ones.

A nice change from regular 4x's where you redesign & upgrade your entire fleet everytime you research Laser mkX.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Dr. Snark posted:

I should hope I'm at upper command at minimum, I'm a goddamn war hero after leading the kills of those IC carriers :argh:

But seriously thanks, I could have sworn I was somewhere else but, uh, obviously I'm not.

Don't think that just because we're the same rank that I consider you a peer. I'm known system wide for my military acumen and my unswerving devotion to Marskind, while your loyalty is suspect at best. I constantly and loudly talk about how I would never defect to an alien race at the very first opportunity, while you remain silent on the matter.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Cathode Raymond posted:

Don't think that just because we're the same rank that I consider you a peer. I'm known system wide for my military acumen and my unswerving devotion to Marskind, while your loyalty is suspect at best. I constantly and loudly talk about how I would never defect to an alien race at the very first opportunity, while you remain silent on the matter.

I am a loyal servant of Mars, I need not constantly repeat an obvious truth.

If anything I wonder about why you need to reaffirm your loyalty at every turn when instead you could be focusing on more productive statements that rally troops.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Nevets posted:

Aurora construction takes a long time. Outfitting a shipyard to produce a new ship model can take 3-6 months, and construction times are often double that.

You can speed up ship construction by pre-building engines & other designed systems planetside, but that will only shave maybe 25% off your times.

Shipyard construction is very scalable, though. A shipyard with 2 slipways can build 2 ships at once, 3 slipways for 3 at once, etc, and it doesn't take a 3 slipway yard a full 3x as much time to re-tool as a 1 slipway yard. It's actually much easier to keep spitting out an older design than to re-tool and start rolling out new ones.

A nice change from regular 4x's where you redesign & upgrade your entire fleet everytime you research Laser mkX.

Yeah, Aurora earns its "Dwarf Fortress In Space" reputation in part because it tries to inject some reality into the utter absurdity of its simulation. Most of the ship design and construction elements are both pretty detailed and (within the limits of the setting's conceits) fairly realistic. The way shipyards work in Aurora is way, way closer to how actual wet navy shipyards work than anything in any high profile space game. Not that wet navy shipyards are necessarily how space navy shipyards will eventually work, but they're a better approximation than "oh, just cancel that 6 month old battlecruiser design and start making cutting edge battlecruisers, we expect the first to commission next month" like most games. You also have to shake down the ship, train the crew, etc, at least optimally. In practice when you're at war you shove anybody you can get in them and send them off to die a billion kilometers from the nearest uninhabitable piece of space debris.

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

Zurai posted:

Yeah, Aurora earns its "Dwarf Fortress In Space" reputation in part because it tries to inject some reality into the utter absurdity of its simulation. Most of the ship design and construction elements are both pretty detailed and (within the limits of the setting's conceits) fairly realistic. The way shipyards work in Aurora is way, way closer to how actual wet navy shipyards work than anything in any high profile space game. Not that wet navy shipyards are necessarily how space navy shipyards will eventually work, but they're a better approximation than "oh, just cancel that 6 month old battlecruiser design and start making cutting edge battlecruisers, we expect the first to commission next month" like most games. You also have to shake down the ship, train the crew, etc, at least optimally. In practice when you're at war you shove anybody you can get in them and send them off to die a billion kilometers from the nearest uninhabitable piece of space debris.

I'm not sure if it can happen if they're in build or if it adjusts for new build cost or what, but you can modify a class after they're built. Its super gamey and borderline cheating, but unlocking (or never locking) a class and modifying it instead of making a copy/new class to replace it modifies all current ships of the class in inventory.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Classes automatically get locked when a shipyard is refitted to them. Spacemaster (basically a campaign editor) is used to unlock them and do any edits if need be so if cheating is a concern for you when you play a game then yeah its definitely cheating.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Aug 22, 2017

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
My phone posting indicates I havent doed yet. Request a transfer to one of the new carriers asap! I must havey ship poop TIE fighters for the glory of mars.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Where am I? What is my purpose in life?

Just to clear some confusion up as to how the roster is working. Luckily for you the Goon SPREADSHEET answers all these questions and more! Add your name to the list to join over ninety other goons willing to bravely fight for Mars. Every effort will be made to get you your specific desires for ships but sometimes its not that possible as bigger/flasher ships are in high demand!

:rip: I died:
Luckily for you we believe in sequels! Dead goons shall return when the list rolls around again. If you want to come back with a different ship name or type please go edit your preference in the 'wants' section of the spreadsheet otherwise you'll be Goon II or Junior or whatever I feel like at the time.

:tif: My ship exploded for reasons that are totally not my fault:
Good news! You also come around for another ship command and you don't even need to die to do it. Like above feel free to change your preference/shipname. Dispossessed officers also get first dibs on special events like taking command of captured ships.

:( My ships smells like feet and I want a new one:
Giving up a ship? Don't you know how long some goons have to wait for theirs! You can change your preferences as above and ask me to move you but you'll go to the end of the list and i'll swap in a new goon to your current command.

:ughh: What are my career prospects like?
Terrible. Admiral attrition is a real thing as bigger ships tend to be primary targets so every promotion reduces your probable lifespan. I am going to introduce command roles who sit on the flag bridges of fleets rather than commanding ships directly so this will get even worse if anything!

Saros fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Aug 22, 2017

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Can you add a "Will I be promoted to a better ship/shipclass?"


Also can I change my shipname from "Terrible Fright" to "The Amanda"

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
Promotion comes via surviving your ship exploding and requesting a bigger one. Personally I am holding out hope for being appointed facility liaison after the sad demise of my command.

N.B. This is no way implies I take any responsibility for or condone any activities undertaken by facility prior to my potential appointment.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

A history of 'United Terra'



Earth, heaving home to almost 10 billion and the cradle of humanity. United Terra’s story truly begins with the discovery of Trans newtonian elements. The power and promise of these technologies lifted billions out of poverty across the 1990’s and saved the former Soviet bloc from economic collapse. Countries created associations to share TN elements as many had access to only one or two within their territories.

These associations formed the basis of power blocs that mediated internal disputes and combined with the skyrocketing standards of living for much of the world were generally successful at damping down conflict before it really got going. When an emboldened European Union embraced the Eastern bloc in 1999 the world suddenly realised that individual countries, even the mighty United States were no longer competitive players on the world stage.

Economies became intermeshed, friendships strengthened and slowly the United Nations rose as the de facto world council and UN settlements on Luna and Mars flourished. For a while it looked like for the first time humanity was uniting with a common purpose and the future was bright for all.

Then in early 2012 it happened. Billions of people being raised from poverty, seemingly unlimited energy and the corresponding rise in pollutants and waste had one predictable result. An area of the Ross ice shelf, roughly the size of France collapsed sending shockwaves around the world and raising sea levels nearly a meter. The inundation of coastal cities worldwide triggered unprecedented economic fallout and more and more climate effects from Clathrate blows in the north Pacific to melting Siberian permafrost began to snowball into a rolling climate disaster that threatened all of humanity.

Global problems need global solutions became the watchword of the day and authority centralised to the United Nation and the newly named ‘World Council’. Progress in living standards worldwide ground to a screeching halt as more and more of the world's GDP became invested in climate remediation. Earth’s ecosystem and climate was such a delicate system that in many ways the incredible power of TN technology was too much to apply to the problems. Early attempts at geoengineering resulted in knock on effects and unforeseen consequences that sometimes exceeded the issues they were supposed to correct.

While all this was going on climate refugees, especially from the global south whose populations were hardest hit began to flood offworld. Mars, Luna and the Jovian system flourished while Earth stagnated, mired in its own pollution and rising corruption as climate resources were diverted to the polarising fiefdoms of the powerful or simply disappeared. This persisted until the Martian revolution.

In 2029 Mars broke away and a fuming Terra was left holding the bag.

Suddenly they were there, a cabal of politicians, technocrats and the powerful headed by one man, the current Director-General, Vladimir Putin. Their message was simple, one government for all, one standard for all, an end to the corruption of the United Nations. A United Terra for all. They moved with a swiftness that shocked the world, opponents were discredited, disappeared or suddenly found other pursuits and in less than a year the cabal had seized nearly all the levers of power across Earth.

Historians generally agree that without a polarising enemy (i.e. Mars) to point at this meteoric rise to power would have been nearly impossible. Links from the cabal to the Martian separatist movement were suppressed and buried but to many the coincidence seems to much to bear. Earth retained a ‘democratic’ government but the reality is power is concentrated in the hands of Putin, his favored cronies and his family. Every year state power becomes more absolute and the people are squeezed more and more to fund the lifestyles and pet projects of the new global elite.

Since Mars only the Corporates have successfully managed to breakaway from Terra. The suppression of the minor colonies has grown worse and worse as Earth exhausts her natural TN resources but grows ever hungrier for the precious elements. Earth remains ruled by a ruthless and pragmatic man holding onto power with an iron fist and neither Mars or the Corporates dare forget this.

Saros fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Aug 22, 2017

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Welp we're hosed

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Synthbuttrange posted:

Welp we're hosed

:sad:

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell

That's the Leutenant-Director General.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Pootie-Poots is the most powerful human being to have ever lived. Wonderful.

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake
I wonder how TNEs can affect lifespans, considering dude would be a 100 years old at this point

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Well Martian citizens have an average lifespan of 150 nowadays, and I'm sure that the bleeding edge care big names can get adds another couple decades.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Dark days ahead.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Crazycryodude posted:

Well Martian citizens have an average lifespan of 150 nowadays, and I'm sure that the bleeding edge care big names can get adds another couple decades.

Technically very few people are actually that old, yet. It's the projected lifespan for a good portion of the Martian population however thanks to TNE's allowing basic medical nanotechnology to be powered and guided leading to great advances in anti-geriatrics. Earth has a handful of people still alive who fought in World War 1 and humanity's oldest person was born in the 19th century.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Sounds like we're pretty close to the point on the curve where expected lifespan goes up by more than a year every year.

Make sure we're the ones to invent immortality, we can't let Earth get both that and FTL.

Arkanterian
Oct 1, 2013
Seems like our actions to Liberate planets from oppressive masters will take longer!

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
:smith:

TheWetFish
Mar 30, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Saros posted:

A history of 'United Terra'
... as Earth exhausts her natural TN resources ...

Hello. I mean Sorium obviously but I wonder if they've got problematic supply chains on any other TNEs

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Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
In vanilla Aurora games Earth starts with enough TN deposits to let you build up a very good space insfrastructure & start mining other worlds, but even playing very conservatively you are going to start running low on some of the types of TNE's within 50-100 years, forcing you to expand to extrasolar worlds.

Saros' Earth doesn't have access to the entire system's resources & has spent a huge amount building up a big fleet; they probably already have a couple types of elements whose mines have gone dry and are now relying on stockpiled supplies. From the description given it seems that Earth has become a Space Venezuela, burning through it's natural resources to provide an artificially high standard of living for it's citizens. (Kind of muddies the whole Sorium = crude oil analogue we had going.) Now that rationing and deprivation are on the horizon, the current leadership only has two choices to stay in power: blame all their problems on hostile foreign actors, or try and find new deposits to exploit. Seems like Earth was pursuing option 2, but the Mars/IC war might give it an excuse to blame us for all their woes.

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