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eames posted:Some TR benchmarks for comparison would have been nice, I suspect the engine tops out at 8 threads because that's what consoles have. Looks like you're right, it doesn't use the HT threads on an octo-core Intel chip either. It's just hard-coded to use 8 worker threads because consoles.  http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/destiny-beta-test-gpu-cpu
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Threadripper 1900X is now available  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113457
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Risky Bisquick posted:They really are hammering the x299 platfrom Except for those wanting to do vfio passthrough, because that is broken as gently caress.  There the x299 platform is supposedly smooth sailing/turn-key etc.
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You have to admire them calling it x399. They're reaching Chinese company levels of not giving a gently caress about upsetting companies and it owns.
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Filthy scum posted:Except for those wanting to do vfio passthrough, because that is broken as gently caress. It's not that bad, there's just one very old bug with KVM/GPU passthrough/Nested Page Tables that needs to be fixed. Please comment on this bug for better exposure if you care about this functionality: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196409
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hasnt X299 had NVME raid since launch, and people were dogging AMD for not having it on their premium platform? not like normal humans would do NVME raid, but HEDT really isnt the platform for normal humans
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Cygni posted:hasnt X299 had NVME raid since launch, and people were dogging AMD for not having it on their premium platform? Intel wants you to pay 300 dollars for a raid key to use it. AMD giving it for free
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Cygni posted:HEDT really isnt the platform for normal humans AMD uses the acronym SHED for their Super High End Desktops. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:They're reaching Chinese company levels of not giving a gently caress about upsetting companies and it owns.
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VostokProgram posted:Intel wants you to pay 300 dollars for a raid key to use it*. AMD giving it for free * with intel nvme drives. AMD is drive vendor agnostic
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VostokProgram posted:Intel wants you to pay 300 dollars for a raid key to use it. AMD giving it for free its actually more complicated than that. intel's CPU raid isnt working yet on x299 (hence why we have no idea what the VROC keys cost), but NVME raid IS working without the key if you trust forum posters. but only for 2 drives, and its being run off the PCH. also it may or may not actually be bootable. NVME raid is a cluster on both platforms, honestly. (unintentional but good pun)
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Maxwell Adams posted:AMD uses the acronym SHED for their Super High End Desktops. I feel like there is a good joke here about SHED, HEDT and a shotgun but I'll leave it to a better goon.
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eames posted:It's not that bad, there's just one very old bug with KVM/GPU passthrough/Nested Page Tables that needs to be fixed. Did that  But what I was refering to was pcie devices getting stuck in D3 state or whatever the hell it does: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6vbe6w/threadripper_broken_on_linux_for_pci_passthrough/
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eames posted:It's not that bad, there's just one very old bug with KVM/GPU passthrough/Nested Page Tables that needs to be fixed. Wendell, is that you?! Cygni posted:hasnt X299 had NVME raid since launch, and people were dogging AMD for not having it on their premium platform? Intel wants you to pay hundreds of dollars for a dongle to enable it because S E G M E N T A T I O N.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Wendell, is that you?! sorry to disappoint you, I'm just a regular goon hoping that this glaring bug gets the attention it deserves.
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Was only kidding, because that's almost word-for-word a tweet from him. Still though, what is it with KVM that keeps it around, specifically? Xen and QEMU and the one other one whose name I can't remember are all working fine now, aren't they?
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eames posted:sorry to disappoint you, I'm just a regular goon hoping that this glaring bug gets the attention it deserves. You are not alone, there are tens of us out there! 
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repiv posted:Threadripper 1900X is now available At least they went 4+0+4+0 instead of 2+2+2+2.
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Paul MaudDib posted:At least they went 4+0+4+0 instead of 2+2+2+2. Isn't 2+2+2+2 the Epyc 7251?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Was only kidding, because that's almost word-for-word a tweet from him. Aren't qemu and kvm related? I thought qemu by itself only does emulation, and you need kvm to use hardware assisted virtualization
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VostokProgram posted:Aren't qemu and kvm related? I thought qemu by itself only does emulation, and you need kvm to use hardware assisted virtualization QEMU emulates hardware and has a dynamic translation CPU engine. KVM is a VT-x hypervisor that QEMU can frontend. QEMU can do emulation/dynamic translation of a shitload of platforms and architectures, while KVM is only able to be a hypervisor for the host platform (and iirc is only available on x86-64 and ARM64).
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Cygni posted:Isn't 2+2+2+2 the Epyc 7251? Last i heard it was impossible for tr to do that so you could only have 2 (2+2), 2(3+3) and 2(4,4)
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I'm a proud new owner of a 1700X on an ASUS Prime X370-PRO board. The processor is modestly overclocked to 3700 MHz and under full load the temperature doesn't go over 65C. The downside is that the machine is ridiculously picky about RAM, I got me a pair of 3200MHz sticks which max out at 2133MHz, and then I swapped them out for a pair of Ryzen-certified 3200MHz sticks which top out at 2400 MHz instead. I'm not too happy about that, updated the BIOS to no avail. Oh well, glad I got the old FX rig out the door. Youtube videos stuttered on FX and this used to drive me up the walls - a stark contrast to Ryzen which smoothly schedules threads, and doesn't stutter even when the processor is maxed out with number crunching. Anyway, Ryzen is good but suffers from teething troubles. 
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Eyochigan posted:Is that the AGESA 1006 bios or what? Cause there were several revisions, some better than others, I think the RAM thing mostly had to do with 1t/2t timings with the default XMP profiles, and generally tighter timings. But I assume you got the Flare-X 3200mhz C14, so that kinda rules that out.  BIOS is 0810 dated 08/01/17.
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I won't count on AMD dealing with the DDR4 issues anytime soon when they already have their hands full with servers, Raven Ridge and RTG damage control.
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Eyochigan posted:Is that the AGESA 1006 bios or what? Cause there were several revisions, some better than others, I think the RAM thing mostly had to do with 1t/2t timings with the default XMP profiles, and generally tighter timings. But I assume you got the Flare-X 3200mhz C14, so that kinda rules that out. A SWEATY FATBEARD posted:
There was that AMD presentation a while back that suggested vSOC 1.1V and the RAM voltage 1.4-1.5V. I'm running dual rank B-die (G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZKY) at the same timings and frequency without any voltage increase, so I'm surprised that there is a problem on single rank B-die. Video below in case you feel like watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgpHTaQ10k kirtar fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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I've just made a voodoo doll of GCN and thrown it on the fire, let's hope this works people.
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I got a 1700X for home office use. Under the typical office use of rendering 3d fractals and playing GTA V it's fantastic.
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Question: My 5 year old Intel x79 Sandy Bridge platform is getting old. Should I go with the latest Intel (x299) HEDT platform, the latest AMD TD platform or go down to the consumer level of Ryzen? I do play games every now and then, but I mostly work on my PC. I have now 32GB of RAM and I would not want to go below that number.
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What kind of work? If it's not rendering, video production, or VM based, I would say wait a month for coffee lake and then buy a Ryzen or coffee lake at whatever price point you're comfortable with. Same basically goes for any new computer not in those categories. Coffee lake will shake up the price/performance on both sides, so it's probably worth waiting.
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Volguus posted:Question: My 5 year old Intel x79 Sandy Bridge platform is getting old. Should I go with the latest Intel (x299) HEDT platform, the latest AMD TD platform or go down to the consumer level of Ryzen? I do play games every now and then, but I mostly work on my PC. I have now 32GB of RAM and I would not want to go below that number. my suggestion is wait, there will hopefully be not terrible processors released for x299 soon so that may be a good option but it does depend on your workload.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Was only kidding, because that's almost word-for-word a tweet from him. Xen can't lie to the guest like KVM does. If you have an Nvidia card you want to pass-through, you won't be able to install drivers for it. Thanks Nvidia.
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wargames posted:my suggestion is wait, there will hopefully be not terrible processors released for Z370 soon so that may be a good option but it does depend on your workload. FTFY, X299 shall remain terrible.
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Filthy scum posted:Xen can't lie to the guest like KVM does. If you have an Nvidia card you want to pass-through, you won't be able to install drivers for it. Thanks Nvidia. There's a patch to disable the virtualization check in the Nvidia drivers but I still want working KVM support for reasons.  https://github.com/sk1080/nvidia-kvm-patcher
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXAHMRdGvMI So this video popped up in my notifications and it really interests me because the 950 is able to make up so much ground with the NB being overclocked to 1.5Ghz (25% OC). It makes me wonder how much better the Construction cores or even K10 would have been with a better interconnect, and what kind of difference it would have made. EmpyreanFlux fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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wargames posted:my suggestion is wait, there will hopefully be not terrible processors released for x299 soon so that may be a good option but it does depend on your workload. 
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eames posted:There's a patch to disable the virtualization check in the Nvidia drivers but I still want working KVM support for reasons. Don't play games that checks for anti-cheat with that. But also, TR just fails in passing any pcie devices. Even with the pci=nommconf stuff 
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