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Arglebargle III posted:M&C is a perfect subject for a prestige miniseries with a big CG budget. I think the prohibitive factor has been all the water. Filming boat stuff is ludicrously xpensive, as is filming period, so together it's just prohibitive for a TV budget. Maybe CGI will change that with time. They did do Sharpe, but Sharpe didn't have water. Honestly I expect Temeraire on the TV before Aubrey, which is just sad.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think the prohibitive factor has been all the water. Filming boat stuff is ludicrously xpensive, as is filming period, so together it's just prohibitive for a TV budget. It would be better to compare it to Hornblower.
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Jul 24, 2017 14:45
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they need to figure out how to film ocean water in miniature
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Jul 24, 2017 14:52
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Arglebargle III posted:they need to figure out how to film ocean water in miniature You just have to pick the right viscosity.
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Jul 24, 2017 14:57
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Just do an Anime adaptation ala Legend of the Galactic Heroes. 
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Jul 24, 2017 15:13
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Can someone explain why naming the Gunner's cat "Scourge" was so funny?
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Jul 25, 2017 11:59
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Which it was the bosun's cat!
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Jul 25, 2017 12:26
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To elaborate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_o%27_nine_tails
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Arglebargle III posted:M&C is a perfect subject for a prestige miniseries with a big CG budget. It is sad that we live in a world where "Black Sails" is a thing, but we can't have a book to season adaptation of Master and Commander. Its not even like M&C are missing sex and violence most of it is just implied in the novels. Just add in storylines for the intelligence war at home, in France, someone before the mast etc.
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Arglebargle III posted:I'm counting every ship that ran aground while under his command. loving love this. Every time I re-read the books I pick up on some little thing I didn't notice (or didn't think about the implications of) before. Example: in Post Captain, Scrivens, an incompetent footpad (having been a clerk who lost his job and fell on hard times) is taken on as a lackey by Stephen. Whilst celebrating Tom Pullings' promotion to Lt ashore, Stephen sees Scrivens' 'questing head enter the room' and boom, the bailiffs flood in to arrest Jack for debt. It's never mentioned or discussed again, but he sold Jack's location, betraying Stephen's confidence. There's tons of stuff like that which I missed the first time (I was only a teenager when I first read them) I wouldn't really want a TV series. The film, while not 100% perfect - it's not feasible to film two men being quite as reserved and tactful as Aubrey and Maturin are supposed to be, as the gentleman's code of their time demanded - is very, very good. No conventional TV series could exist without alternately simplifying and embroidering the bits that are so apt in the books.
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I'm going to go all Marge Simpson and write a letter to HBO right now
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Did anyone figure out what the evil spirit was supposed to be when the crew was tracking across the Sinai? I was sure Steven would go kill it and have it turn out to be an exotic animal of some sort, but nope.
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Aug 3, 2017 11:24
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It was an owl.
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Yup.
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I heard back from HBO, they told me they don't accept unsolicited ideas and advised me to get an agent 
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Professor Shark posted:I heard back from HBO, they told me they don't accept unsolicited ideas and advised me to get an agent Get a Fugger.
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builds character posted:Get a Fugger. Or maybe a couple of Hoares
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builds character posted:Get a Fugger. Stephen, recollect yourself!
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No reproduction without copulation!
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Why dors Jack paint his little cannons brown instead of leaving them raw brass like the crew wants (with them scrapping the paint little by little)?
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Professor Shark posted:Why dors Jack paint his little cannons brown instead of leaving them raw brass like the crew wants (with them scrapping the paint little by little)? Keeping them shiny is an immense amount of work in terms of polishing and does nothing to keep the ship battle ready, it's purely aesthetic.
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Professor Shark posted:Why dors Jack paint his little cannons brown instead of leaving them raw brass like the crew wants (with them scrapping the paint little by little)? To stop the crew from polishing them. I doubt it matters for a massive brass cannon but polishing can render certain equipment non-functional over time. Anything that require a precise fit will be destroyed by years of polishing. In the Camperdown disaster the Royal Navy discovered that their water-tight hatches had been rendered useless by overzealous polishing. Also it can lead to operational headaches like the officers not training the crews on the brass cannons because that would require hours of polishing to get them shiny afterwards. Again in the 19th century Royal Navy the gunroom heads were kept locked and unused because polishing the metal took too much time. The officers judged it was better to use the enlisted head than use up man-hours polishing the gunroom head. Not having a polished gunroom head was apparently not an option. It was an open secret that ships would dump practice rounds overboard rather than foul the paint by doing gun drills. The late 19th century RN was hilariously dysfunctional. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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Just to make things clear, this kind of polishing requires grinding, yes?
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Aug 24, 2017 21:04
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The difference between polishing and grinding is only one of degrees.
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Arglebargle III posted:The movie is great and as faithful as you can expect. There isn't really an ending so it's perfect in that respect. I completely loathed the movie, could not stand Crowe as Aubrey or Bettany as Maturin, the intertwining of the plots of three different books made a sequel nigh impossible to write, and the whole movie overall was trite and hokey. I don't even think I finished it. I had to go and re-read Desolation Island afterwards to rinse my palate.
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Heliogabalos posted:I completely loathed the movie, could not stand Crowe as Aubrey or Bettany as Maturin, the intertwining of the plots of three different books made a sequel nigh impossible to write, and the whole movie overall was trite and hokey. I don't even think I finished it. I had to go and re-read Desolation Island afterwards to rinse my palate. Having re-watched the film just now, I agree. It was a struggle to finish whereas I rather enjoyed it when it came out, although I hadn't read the books. Here's a question: what was the function of the marines on board a navy ship (beyond the obvious) and how did they fit into the command structure? I'm reading The Far Side of the World again and there's a part where everyone is lined up for divisions. Jack is surveying everyone when he comes to the marines and his internal monologue goes along the lines of how their faces are impersonal and nameless despite having sailed with them for months. I understand they have their own commanding officer - in this instance, Howard - but what were their actual day-to-day duties? It certainly sounds like they're not helping sail the ship and are rather clustered away elsewhere for Jack to not know them.
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Aug 29, 2017 09:08
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They are there to put down mutinies.
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Also to provide trained help for combat,, I think.
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Octy posted:Having re-watched the film just now, I agree. It was a struggle to finish whereas I rather enjoyed it when it came out, although I hadn't read the books. The Marines are a detachment aboard ship with their own officers. Usually the head is a captain, who reports directly to the ship's captain. Probably a lieutenant on smaller ships (I want to say it was one on the Sophie). As stated above, they're there to enforce order on the ship (including guarding things, like the captain's cabin), and provide help in combat (shooting muskets from the rigging and manning cannons during battles, boarding ships, assaults on land).
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hannibal posted:The Marines are a detachment aboard ship with their own officers. Usually the head is a captain, who reports directly to the ship's captain. Probably a lieutenant on smaller ships (I want to say it was one on the Sophie). As stated above, they're there to enforce order on the ship (including guarding things, like the captain's cabin), and provide help in combat (shooting muskets from the rigging and manning cannons during battles, boarding ships, assaults on land). Well, it still seems odd that Jack wouldn't interact with them if they're guarding his cabin and what not, although that's about the only time I can think of that he specifically refers to them. At any rate, it sounds like they had a relatively easy job. Not many opportunities for misadventure outside of combat, I suppose.
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Man, going through The Yellow Admiral again reminded me just how senseless young Gagin's death was. That's probably the point, though. Also, it reinforces just how gross Mrs. Williams is.
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You guys are out to lunch, the movie was great
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Professor Shark posted:You guys are out to lunch, the movie was great Yeah. It's one of my favorite films!
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Colonial Air Force posted:Yeah. It's one of my favorite films! Yeah, the production design, costumes and the amazing sound design alone are worth watching it. Sure, it's not a 1:1 translation of a book or the characters, but it captures the atmosphere very lovingly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnomDilySlA
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Pyrotechnics!? Lame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_FwBZ6sdTY
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E: Wrong thread.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Pyrotechnics!? An obvious nod to Jack's use of firework powder. 
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I'm very slowly getting through Far Side of the World and just finished up the chapter with the murder/suicide  Did Maturin do *something* to kill Horner after his almost successful suicide attempt? He's alive when Stephen cuts him down, then when Stephen doesn't get the response he wanted from Martin, they get into a debate, at the end of which Stephen says it doesn't matter because Horner is now dead. I may be reading into it too much, but Stephen being sly and very capable of murder made me think he might have helped Horner, especially after he dropped how embarrassing and cruel it would be to revive an attempted suicider.
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I doubt it. I think he merely omitted to attempt a heroic treatment.
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