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This show is gonna be good because Cosmos is amazing and he had a huge hand in that. I Believe.
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On the other hand, the first trailer had a 'men leave the toilet seat up' joke, featured the captain and his ex-wife CO bickering, and had a drunk driving joke. MacFarlane is saying all the right things, and I really hope we get some nice charming utopian sci-fi... but we might still get enough Family Guy in space to drag it all down. Seriously, "his CO is is ex-wife!" is the most worrying part of the premise.
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 02:57 |
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All the ex-wife stuff feels out of a cheap early 90's sitcom and very bad.
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 03:04 |
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I'm gonna be optimistic despite all these facts in the spirit of the show
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 03:06 |
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This better be good, or I'll be pissed they could've made a whole season of Other Space for the cost of one episode.
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 03:51 |
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Eiba posted:On the other hand, the first trailer had a 'men leave the toilet seat up' joke, featured the captain and his ex-wife CO bickering, and had a drunk driving joke. Yeah it sucks but maybe it's because he wants a Picard/Crusher thing.
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 04:30 |
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:As long as he's doing an obvious and terrible New York accent, too. Singing cowboy
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 04:39 |
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Baronjutter posted:All the ex-wife stuff feels out of a cheap early 90's sitcom and very bad. Yeah, all this stuff is tempering my optimism even though I don't want it to. It's really difficult to reconcile the words that Seth MacFarlane is saying with the poo poo that's actually in the trailers, even given how misleading trailers can be.
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 04:43 |
On a more optimistic note, rewatching the first trailer to refresh my memory about how bad the ex-wife stuff was made me notice the design for the Krill destroyer: Looks okay at first glance, but that thing is obnoxiously asymmetric. Between that and the framing gag on the viewscreen it makes me think those aliens just don't have the same sense of aesthetics that humans do in a way that's really annoying to us, and I think that's a pretty good sci-fi joke all things considered.
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 04:49 |
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Ok, I've got a quibble. I hate Seth's line read on 'I loosened it for you'.
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 20:57 |
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The_Doctor posted:Ok, I've got a quibble. I hate Seth's line read on 'I loosened it for you'. It's funny because it's a girl but she's super strong because she's an alien so you gotta get in a little pride saving quip because you're a kinda pathetic 90's sitcom dad.
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 21:05 |
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I'm interested in this because it's got the optimistic tone of TNG, without the "we're evolved beyond such things" nonsense. People in the future are still gonna be people. Tiny woman character breaks down a door you couldn't, you're briefly (if irrationally) ashamed and emasculated, and you crack a joke about it to protect your ego. Stupid, but human.
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 21:12 |
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The_Doctor posted:Ok, I've got a quibble. I hate Seth's line read on 'I loosened it for you'.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 02:31 |
Family Guy is just awful but mcfarlane can deliver the goods when he cares about something. For me this is all a question of whether or not he's invested in this or in lazy fuckboy mode.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 02:56 |
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Ofaloaf posted:The set-up was him asking her to "open this jar of pickles". It's a pretty simple follow-up to that. I think they meant how he said it.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 03:00 |
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Yeah like in the last Indiana Jones movie when Shia asks Indy "you're a teacher?" and Indy replies "part-time." and the trailer had this great take where Indy said "part-time" in an awesome way but then the take they actually used had him saying it in a really weird kinda wussy way.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 14:53 |
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Kibayasu posted:I think they meant how he said it. Yeah, exactly. I get the joke, it's just his read of the punchline. It comes across weird.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 14:58 |
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Gatekeeper posted:Yeah like in the last Indiana Jones movie when Shia asks Indy "you're a teacher?" and Indy replies "part-time." and the trailer had this great take where Indy said "part-time" in an awesome way but then the take they actually used had him saying it in a really weird kinda wussy way. I think I whispered, "What the gently caress?" in the theater when that happened.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:15 |
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Even weirder, there's an alternate reading of "The line must be drawn here" in one of the First Contact trailers. It's still a good reading because Patrick Stewart. But that's such an iconic line reading, it's bizarre in hindsight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W2Ehf4qrh4&t=63s Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Jesus what a terrible teaser, that's a ton of not first contact footage.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 01:33 |
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If that teaser doesn't just scream, "We don't have any of our effects shots done, gently caress" then I don't know what does
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 03:30 |
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Sir Lemming posted:Even weirder, there's an alternate reading of "The line must be drawn here" in one of the First Contact trailers. It's still a good reading because Patrick Stewart. But that's such an iconic line reading, it's bizarre in hindsight. Wait wait wait. You're telling me Star Trek: First Contact is gonna be 21 years old this November?
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 03:48 |
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mycomancy posted:Wait wait wait. You're telling me Star Trek: First Contact is gonna be 21 years old this November? I was 9 years old and it was the last time I can remember genuinely enjoying a movie in a theater. gently caress's sakes.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 04:01 |
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Reading this thread is going to be a serious kick, like watching the rise and fall of goons' love affair with Family Guy all over again. At least some of you have a concept of "once bitten, twice shy"
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 04:57 |
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Most people have a favorable view of American Dad and Cosmos though.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 05:22 |
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I think a more germaine source from which one should draw their expectations for the live-action series McFarlane's staring in would be his movies, and those tread a lot closer to the absolute pits of Family Guy than his other fare. Who knows, maybe having other writers and directors in on the show as well as the studded boot of FOX management on his neck will contain his worst excesses, but as much as I like COSMOS and American Dad! I'm going to harden my heart against hope
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 05:54 |
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I don't think anyone will disagree that he is fully capable of loving this up, I think we're just mostly expecting the worst and hoping for the best here.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 06:17 |
You hope for Ted and expect Million Ways
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 06:20 |
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Even assuming Orville is good I'm operating under the assumption it's going to last a single season anyways.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 06:22 |
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Cross-Section posted:If that teaser doesn't just scream, "We don't have any of our effects shots done, gently caress" then I don't know what does Yeah but the weird thing is how they created new effects footage just for that trailer. Like the whole oval/arrowhead flyby (man what was it with that logo, they really pushed it hard with Generations and also First Contact it seems?) and the brief cut of Voyager (???) phasering the poo poo out of the cube.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 06:46 |
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I completely believe MacFarlane's entire career has been trying to engineer a way for him to make a Star Trek. It may not work but there's no way he's phoning it in, he's going to give this his best shot.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 06:51 |
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Yeah well JJ Abrams used and cast aside Star Trek like a fancy but ultimately disposable condom just to get at Star Wars, and all he did with that position was remake A New Hope. All I'm saying is that just because something is a creator's passion project or lifelong dream doesn't mean it will be good, even if everyone involved is deeply invested; sometimes it's even a detriment to creativity or quality.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 11:06 |
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Agreed, in my experience it's easy for people to become blinded to their project's shortcomings because they feel they're hitting all their marks in terms of tributizing their heroes, but they lack a somebody neutral running around going "Uh, yeah, that doesn't make any sense," or "This part is a huge cliche, you need to come up with something more original." That said... I want to believe.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 17:50 |
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Autism Sneaks posted:Yeah well JJ Abrams used and cast aside Star Trek like a fancy but ultimately disposable condom just to get at Star Wars, What?
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 17:58 |
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Rhyno posted:What? He is a huge Star Wars fan and gave no particular shits about Trek and used his making a Trek movie as resume building to get to make a Star Wars movie. That's the story.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 18:04 |
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He turned down SW when they first offered it to him so uh...
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 18:06 |
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The Bloop posted:He is a huge Star Wars fan and gave no particular shits about Trek and used his making a Trek movie as resume building to get to make a Star Wars movie. Supposedly, he was hoping to build Star Trek into a new Star Wars, with a big new expanded universe reaching into games, TV, comics, etc. and jumped ship when it turned out Paramount couldn't deliver him the big multimedia empire opportunity he was hoping for.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 18:10 |
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In 2009 anyone would've laughed you out of the room if you said George Lucas would sell the rights to Star Wars and let somebody else direct it. So I doubt JJ literally had a plan to abandon Star Trek on his way to Star Wars. But it does seem like when the opportunity came up to actually direct a Star Wars movie he was like "oh drat, that's kinda what I would've rather been doing all along".
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 18:58 |
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He's a lovely director and all his space movies suck
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 19:16 |
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Autism Sneaks posted:I think a more germaine source from which one should draw their expectations for the live-action series McFarlane's staring in would be his movies, and those tread a lot closer to the absolute pits of Family Guy than his other fare. Who knows, maybe having other writers and directors in on the show as well as the studded boot of FOX management on his neck will contain his worst excesses, but as much as I like COSMOS and American Dad! I'm going to harden my heart against hope As long as there isn't a big band frank sinatra-esque extravaganza musical piece where he gets to be a crooner in space I'll be fine. If in the first episode his character gets a space virus/space injury and hallucinates a huge musical number that's it for me.
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