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shadow puppet of a posted:The robot gets really, really racist in the later preview eps.
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It felt like an episode of TNG where everyone is downright unprofessional, but in a funny way, not a cringy "the naked now" way. It also gave off a really strong galaxy quest vibe. I liked it a lot. The only joke I didn't like is the "I'm gonna pee and look up a word but not in that order!" one, that was just pointless. Otherwise the helmsman was ok and I hope they don't try to up his game throughout the season.
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Sep 11, 2017 17:40
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WhiteHowler posted:That actually sounds kind of interesting (I'm assuming he's species-ist rather than racist). Yeah probably, but he could be species-ist in a way that really cuts close to the bone for a TV show. Imagine if his species-ism was "Well organic life sure does like eating fried chicken!" Time will tell on that one
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On reflection, I was smiling most of the time and happy to be watching something trekkish and reasonably competent so I'd have to say that was a thouroughly enjoyable hour spent.JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The only joke I didn't like is the "I'm gonna pee and look up a word but not in that order!" one, that was just pointless. Otherwise the helmsman was ok and I hope they don't try to up his game throughout the season. Eh, it wasn't Laugh Out Loud but felt realistic enough for that awkward conversation. I know you said you liked it a lot.
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All I want out of The Orville is for it to eat STD's lunch simply because its not a dumbass subscription service and as a result for the few dozen Star Trek decision makers responsible for the series never being able to get out of Spocky prequels to lose their jobs and feel ashamed of themselves. So yeah I guess I'll be watching again next week. But I doubt I'll ever cosplay as a Krill or anything. 5/10 show rating.
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Expecting professionalism in a post-scarcity world always seemed kind of impossible in my brain for Star Trek. Most of your citizens I'd imagine would spend all day on their version of the internet or screwing around in holosuites so it's kind of refreshing to see that translated into the down to earth less serious attitudes in
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I didn't really care much for the helmsbro. They could cut out the crass jokes, but leave the others in, and it would be so much better. Other than that, I really liked it. It feels so much like TNG in a lot of ways. Things like the orchestral music, plot and even details on the ship. They even have the bridge on top and it has a sunroof. They have the token alien character to play humanity off of, robot guy. There was even a one-liner when they defeated the aliens. "Happy Arbor day" is so much better than the eyerolling suggestion afterward. I'm hoping they're going to reveal that people are professional on other ships and it's just this ship that is so unprofessional at everything. That'd be kinda neat to show that it's not just how the show is, but it's because the Orville is crewed by mostly bottom of the barrel people. Maybe provide some room for them to grow as well. I'm interested to see where the rest of the season goes.
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Sep 11, 2017 17:55
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vermin posted:Expecting professionalism in a post-scarcity world always seemed kind of impossible in my brain for Star Trek. Most of your citizens I'd imagine would spend all day on their version of the internet or screwing around in holosuites so it's kind of refreshing to see that translated into the down to earth less serious attitudes in The unprofessionalism is a great source of jokes in my opinion. I'd love to have seen someone casually aging some wine with that time device.
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Sep 11, 2017 17:58
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Nullsmack posted:I'm hoping they're going to reveal that people are professional on other ships and it's just this ship that is so unprofessional at everything. That'd be kinda neat to show that it's not just how the show is, but it's because the Orville is crewed by mostly bottom of the barrel people. Maybe provide some room for them to grow as well. Yeah I get the impression that it's the Orville that's not the norm. If Kelly had to beg higher ups to throw away a ship on her ex husband then they'd probably give him the same caliber of ship as the sub from Down Periscope. I meant to say it's refreshing to see that scrubs and washouts still exist in...uh...Starfleet? What's the name of their nation/navy? Imagine a ship full of Barclays.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:02
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Space Down Periscope would be my favorite show and I hope that's what this has become by season's end.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:05
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The Bloop posted:I do wish fewer of the jokes were literally balls and penis because as it stands I can't see recommending it to my parents. Thanks for the heads up by the way, we're definitely going to need to preview it before watching with the kids.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:15
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shadow puppet of a posted:All I want out of The Orville is for it to eat STD's lunch simply because its not a dumbass subscription service and as a result for the few dozen Star Trek decision makers responsible for the series never being able to get out of Spocky prequels to lose their jobs and feel ashamed of themselves. Unless CBS has their heads up their asses in a "only America matters" way that's never going to happen. Discovery is on Netflix everywhere else in the world (apart from Canada maybe?) while I had to find a PirateBay proxy that works in my country to watch this.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Thanks for the heads up by the way, we're definitely going to need to preview it before watching with the kids. It may be the best Star Trek we've had in close to 20 years, but it's still written by Seth MacFarlane.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:38
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I found myself liking it more and more as it went on. By the time they were escaping the station I was definitely enjoying it. I think with time it could end up being good, really wanna see the cast fleshed out since a few of them come off a bit like caricatures so far. I'll stick with it.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:47
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Really enjoyed it. It felt like Star Trek, and the perfect world of Trek exists, but what happens when they run out of people and begin digging from the bottom of the barrel. You end up with crew members making sex jokes, being slobs, and a mix of people taking everything seriously. Star Trek everyone was perfect because their positions demanded it, but these people in Orville had to exist they just never were allowed near a ship. I dig it.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:47
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Laffo if STD pilot has a shuttle zipping in and out of those saucer gaps as a strategic move. Gonna look pretty pathetic now
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Sep 11, 2017 18:50
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TheScott2K posted:Space Down Periscope would be my favorite show and I hope that's what this has become by season's end. I agree 100%. ...poo poo, can you imagine if they had Kelsey Grammar show up as a crusty old admiral? That would be loving killer.
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vermin posted:Expecting professionalism in a post-scarcity world always seemed kind of impossible in my brain for Star Trek. Most of your citizens I'd imagine would spend all day on their version of the internet or screwing around in holosuites so it's kind of refreshing to see that translated into the down to earth less serious attitudes in Picking nits here, but we don't know that Orville is a post-scarcity society. For all we know those ships and skyscrapers were built by minimum wage workers or slave labor.
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Sep 11, 2017 19:10
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Honestly the part that worries me the most is Brannon Braga being attached, once I saw his name pop up I really almost turned it off
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Sep 11, 2017 19:20
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Kazinsal posted:It may be the best Star Trek we've had in close to 20 years, but it's still written by Seth MacFarlane. Don't get me wrong, the banter and joking about dog balls and penis drawings felt real and relatable enough but it just narrows the audience for the show. Just like in Kingsman. I would recommend that movie to certain people that would be OK with the over the top violence but the one dumb, graphic joke about buttsex at the end narrows that audience.
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Sep 11, 2017 19:20
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Ohtsam posted:
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Trek fans are hella thirsty Yep. Also they've seen one episode and the reviewers saw the whole season.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:31
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The only joke I honestly didn't like was the "did you see the dog licking his balls?" line. It was funny when the dog was licking his balls, I don't think anyone should have actually commented on it.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:33
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Yep. Also they've seen one episode and the reviewers saw the whole season. They've apparently seen three episodes? Either way, I often enjoy things reviewers hate and in this case they all seemed to have various preconceptions that weren't lived up to but were probably unfair. The show can be way less good than TNG and it might not be a generational cultural touchstone, but still well worth watching.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Yep. Also they've seen one episode and the reviewers saw the whole season. They saw the first three actually.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:50
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Forbes has a dissenting opinion. https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/09/10/the-critics-must-be-crazy-the-orville-is-a-delightful-homage-to-the-original-star-trek/
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bull3964 posted:Forbes has a dissenting opinion. 
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The Bloop posted:Just like in Kingsman. I would recommend that movie to certain people that would be OK with the over the top violence but the one dumb, graphic joke about buttsex at the end narrows that audience. I had no problem with the violence or buttsex, just the lovely politics and class issues.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:24
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Maelstache posted:I had no problem with the violence or buttsex, just the lovely politics and class issues. Sure but again that's a different issue. I mentioned the graphic sex joke because it was alone and out of place and (I think) a mistake, however small, that has kept others from seeing their franchise. I think the dog balls thing is the same, albeit less so.
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I normally pretty much agree with critics but this show in no way deserves an 11 on RT or a 34 on Metacritic. Or if it does because the other two episodes they saw suck, I can't imagine how bad they are to get the score this low after a good first episode.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:27
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bull3964 posted:Forbes has a dissenting opinion. quote:Of course, the reason many critics hate The Orville is MacFarlane himself... 100% this. Critics hate McFarlane. I'm sure most of them had their bad reviews written before they even watched their screeners.
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Koirhor posted:Honestly the part that worries me the most is Brannon Braga being attached, once I saw his name pop up I really almost turned it off That rear end in a top hat should be banned from the writers guild and have both hands smashed to be sure
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Sep 11, 2017 21:45
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LividLiquid posted:It really didn't help that literally every joke was in a trailer, but I thought it was fine. Give it a couple seasons to grow its beard. Shows don't get a couple seasons to get good in the age of Peak TV. Not unless they're a Marvel branded show, anyway.
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R-Type posted:That rear end in a top hat should be banned from the writers guild and have both hands smashed to be sure Braga is a really uneven writer. He's written gems like Fistful of Datas and All Good Things, and also diarrhea soup like Sub Rosa and Threshold.
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Argyle posted:100% this. Critics hate McFarlane. I'm sure most of them had their bad reviews written before they even watched their screeners. Don't pretend that a lot of the show's audience weren't doing the same thing in the opposite direction, though. As soon as the negative reviews started dropping, this thread (and the Star Trek thread too) were full of people trying to poke holes in them even though no one had actually seen the pilot yet. I didn't hate the pilot so I'm not trying to say that it's terrible and deserves to be at ~20% on RT, but after watching it I could definitely see the flaws that most reviewers zeroed in on. It's not really a reviewer's job to say that a show has potential or whatever if they felt that the three episodes they watched weren't very good. Gynovore posted:Braga is a really uneven writer. He's written gems like Fistful of Datas and All Good Things, and also diarrhea soup like Sub Rosa and Threshold. 
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Paradoxish posted:Don't pretend that a lot of the show's audience weren't doing the same thing in the opposite direction, though. As soon as the negative reviews started dropping, this thread (and the Star Trek thread too) were full of people trying to poke holes in them even though no one had actually seen the pilot yet. Vamoose ya varmint!
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Gynovore posted:diarrhea soup Tomato Bisque! Unironic MacFarlane jokes ITT
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Sep 11, 2017 22:44
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At least the joke was from back when he was still involved with the show and it was funny.
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I watched it having dinner at my pop's house and it totally brought back the vibe of watching TNG together as a kid. It's not """prestige TV""" but does everything have to be? It's perfectly fine for what it is and Star Trek has always had its share of groaner lines. If some of those are fart jokes now it's no big deal to me. Give this show a 7 season run of mediocrity and all of Discovery's budget right now, thanks.
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