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Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Money is just supposed to be rare, you actually need to think of what you want to invest in instead of just mindlessly changing up for the higher tier whenever it opens up

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Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Fish whenever possible.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I really didn't dig the Ys 8 demo.


I just don't know why.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Shinjobi posted:

I really didn't dig the Ys 8 demo.


I just don't know why.

Well for me, the gameplay is still functionally identical to the last two games, which has never really done it for me as much as the older ones. Couple that with the bad localization and I'm pretty cool on it as well.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Regy Rusty posted:

Well for me, the gameplay is still functionally identical to the last two games, which has never really done it for me as much as the older ones. Couple that with the bad localization and I'm pretty cool on it as well.

For what its worth, I liked Memories in Celetica (Need to get back into it one of these days). Hearing it has a poor localization does seriously make me hesitate. :(

I mean, it was never a focus, but I did like the flavor that the world and characters added.

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Sep 11, 2017

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
The bosses in Celceta were not fun to me at all when they were the most fun parts of Felghana and Origin, so if 8 is anything like it I'll pass.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I would probably play a babelfish translation of Ys, if I'm honest. I'm much more bummed about it being another party-based Ys title but I knew that going in anyway.

Erpy
Jan 30, 2015
(insert title here)

Paperhouse posted:

Can anyone think of some things that are not exactly missable but stuff you might want to be aware of in Cold Steel 2? I don't really care about the missable books and stuff like that, but one thing I was annoyed about in Cold Steel is that I never used the Moebius master quartz at all because I had no idea how ridiculously good it gets. I was never gonna grind out the levels on it so I essentially missed it just due to not knowing what it could do - stuff kinda like that?

There's one particular thing that hasn't been mentioned. In Act 1 (the game doesn't have chapters like the previous games, it's divided into a prologue and 3 acts) in addition to the members of Class VII, the playable roster also has 3 "supporting characters", one of which you pick to come along as your team heads for a new location. (minor playable character spoilers: these are Toval, Claire and Sharon) During "resting days" you can have bonding events with them too. At the end of Act 1, the supporting character with whom you have the highest amount of link points will give you a unique item. The first character will give you an accessory that acts like a Cast2 quartz and which stacks with any Cast-quartz your character already has. The second character will give you an accessory that increases accuracy and adds a random chance to deliver criticals without a turn bonus. The third character will give you an accessory that acts like an Impede3 quartz (Zeus Gem) and stacks with whatever Impede-quartz you already have equipped. The second item is widely considered the worst, since accuracy is easy to raise with other accessories or Hit-quartz. The first item is considered okay, if you're into casting. The third item is widely considered the best because since it stacks with Impede quartz, it helps Rean brute-force his way past enemies' AT Delay resistence and inflict longer delay on top of it. So if you don't have any clear preferences, favor Super Maid with the power of your love and she will respond in kind by handing you an item that's right up there with Domination Quartz in terms of brokenness.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

it's a lot of fun just running around in ys 8

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

I've been trying to figure out how best to make that work if/when I LP Cold Steel 2, because I'm going to want to show off all the Bonding Events, but I also need to make sure that that character ends up on top.

Maybe I'll cheat a bit and bring the accessory over from my first playthrough...

Erpy
Jan 30, 2015
(insert title here)

Some Numbers posted:

I've been trying to figure out how best to make that work if/when I LP Cold Steel 2, because I'm going to want to show off all the Bonding Events, but I also need to make sure that that character ends up on top.

Maybe I'll cheat a bit and bring the accessory over from my first playthrough...

You can always try to nudge things that way by linking other "support" characters with your classmates whenever possible and link that character with Rean whenever in battle. There's also the last-minute option of inviting said character to the hot-spring scene, which is pretty much guaranteed to tip the odds.

Alard
Sep 4, 2011

Erpy posted:

The first character will give you an accessory that acts like a Cast2 quartz and which stacks with any Cast-quartz your character already has.

Actually acts like what is practically the Cast 3 quartz, and it does some amazing work on the casters. Especially if you give them things like an Abyss Shadow to give them a nice boost to speed.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Erpy posted:

There's one particular thing that hasn't been mentioned. In Act 1 (the game doesn't have chapters like the previous games, it's divided into a prologue and 3 acts) in addition to the members of Class VII, the playable roster also has 3 "supporting characters", one of which you pick to come along as your team heads for a new location. (minor playable character spoilers: these are Toval, Claire and Sharon) During "resting days" you can have bonding events with them too. At the end of Act 1, the supporting character with whom you have the highest amount of link points will give you a unique item. The first character will give you an accessory that acts like a Cast2 quartz and which stacks with any Cast-quartz your character already has. The second character will give you an accessory that increases accuracy and adds a random chance to deliver criticals without a turn bonus. The third character will give you an accessory that acts like an Impede3 quartz (Zeus Gem) and stacks with whatever Impede-quartz you already have equipped. The second item is widely considered the worst, since accuracy is easy to raise with other accessories or Hit-quartz. The first item is considered okay, if you're into casting. The third item is widely considered the best because since it stacks with Impede quartz, it helps Rean brute-force his way past enemies' AT Delay resistence and inflict longer delay on top of it. So if you don't have any clear preferences, favor Super Maid with the power of your love and she will respond in kind by handing you an item that's right up there with Domination Quartz in terms of brokenness.

Yeah that's the kind of stuff I mean, thanks

The Quick Caliber one and the impede/delay one each sound great, I want both :(

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Impede is more useful since cs2 revamped spellcasting to be both faster and be cast instantly with new mechanics.

Alard
Sep 4, 2011

Honestly even with the new mechanics they're both pretty equal. It really just comes down to which you prefer. Do you want to rapidly burn down enemies with arts, or deny them from getting any turns.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Shinjobi posted:

I really didn't dig the Ys 8 demo.


I just don't know why.

I felt the same way. Nothing wrong with it, but it didn't really draw me in. Maybe playing the game from the beginning will do it, I dunno.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
So this weeks Cold Steel 3 news cover the /really/ important characters:

https://twitter.com/Gu4n/status/907493375233970176

Journalist Vivi? Didn't know the Onion had an Erebonian edition.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
I HAVE OBTAINED WHITE GEHENNA AND AM LIKE UNTO A GOD

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Oxxidation posted:

I HAVE OBTAINED WHITE GEHENNA AND AM LIKE UNTO A GOD
It (and Earth Wall) are so, so freakishly good in FC.

Artes got nerfed a bit in SC though (so pure physical attackers like Agate and crafts in general are better) so enjoy it while it lasts.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Also there's a new card game based on vantage master???

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010

OddObserver posted:

So this weeks Cold Steel 3 news cover the /really/ important characters:

https://twitter.com/Gu4n/status/907493375233970176

Journalist Vivi? Didn't know the Onion had an Erebonian edition.

I think we knew about Vivi from an art book preview, but yeah pretty aggressively hype for news on good characters.

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

I want to make a joke post in Becky's accent but I don't even know how

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
Same. :(

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

https://twitter.com/Gu4n/status/907636529287368704

MY CHILDREN.

Look at all of them, especially Munk.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

I'm glad Munk was finally able to fulfill his dream of joining the local yacht club.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Solid choice for Mint, goggles on top of head is a Good Look.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
I'm liking Ferris's Southern belle-esque hat, or maybe I'm conflating it with another style.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Mint and Becky are both strong. I wonder who's strongest???

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Here's the full-size image:


Guessing Vivi might end up being the recurring reporter for this game.

Also, translated character stuff for the image:
* Patrick T. Hyarms - Returned to his family?
* Sister Rosine - Officially a sister, and an influence on the story.
* Warrant Officer Alan - Joined the military. Still friends with Bridget.
* Vivi - Now a journalist. There's a scene with her teasing Rean and the students.
* Ferris Florald - Now a shop keeper?
* Becky - A merchant.
* Mint - A mechanic at the Branch II school.

Kondo's comments:
Patrick appears from the opening and has an affect on Rean and the others repeatedly. This story will shine a light on Rosine being a squire in the Gralsritter. [You should] pay attention to the movements of other individuals within the church. Mint is now involved in the soldat and Divine Knight maintenence, having wanted to work with Schmidt's exchange program.

Other graduates that have not been revealed will also show up in the game, and they will have surprising connections to previous characters from the series.


Also, here's some students from the other sections:

Class VIII: Maya, Gustav, Jessica Schleiden
Class IX: Pablo, Luize, Kairi

Translated info for that picture:
* Maya (Lamarre Province, sniper rifle) -- black-haired sniper with a steady hand, familiar with Eastern culture.
* Gustav (Mining Town Aragon, hand canon) -- dependent, gentle guy of a few words.
* Jessica Schleiden (Nortia Province, spear) -- trustworthy noble, specialised in the spearmanship of the Schleiden School. Close to Juna and Louise.
* Pablo (Kreuzen Province, rifle/s) -- parents run a workshop, on good terms with fellow mechanics, speaks in Kansai-ben apparently.
* Louise (Remiferia, orbal gun) -- calm girl with glasses, specialised in telecommunication.
* Kairi (Lamarre Province, Orbal Staff) -- "shota-faced" son of a baron who puts great effort in becoming a fine Erebonian man.

Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Sep 12, 2017

Ohtsam
Feb 5, 2010

Not this shit again.

OddObserver posted:

So this weeks Cold Steel 3 news cover the /really/ important characters:

Journalist Vivi? Didn't know the Onion had an Erebonian edition.

Forget The Onion, Vivi will be a beat reporter for the erebonian TMZ.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
vivi as a recurring character is all i've ever wanted

Ohtsam
Feb 5, 2010

Not this shit again.

The Colonel posted:

vivi as a recurring character is all i've ever wanted

What if Linde is her editor?

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

recently checked out the cold steel manga and was happy to find that of the handful of student npcs who show up Becky gets the most appearances by far


Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Lord Koth posted:

* Louise (Remiferia, orbal gun) -- calm girl with glasses, specialised in telecommunication.

Is this the first likely-to-make-regular-appearances character from Remiferia?


Lord Koth posted:

* Ferris Florald - Now a shop keeper?

:what:

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

Goddamn did Munk mellow out

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes

Billzasilver posted:

Goddamn did Munk mellow out

He doesn't seem that different, though.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
I forget, the game set in Remiferia is an MMO, right?

Alard
Sep 4, 2011

It's a browser Gacha game, not an MMO.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Vivi better show up all the time and troll Rean and Friends the entire time.

Like a less flighty and more mischievous Dorothy.

Also Ferris is looking mighty stylish there.

EDIT - Also wondering if Rosine and/or Thomas will end up as a party members at some point, given their status.

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Logicblade
Aug 13, 2014

Festival with your real* little sister!
Crossbell had a few NPCs from Remiferia, and technically one of the playable characters too.

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