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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:I watched it having dinner at my pop's house and it totally brought back the vibe of watching TNG together as a kid. It's not """prestige TV""" but does everything have to be? It's perfectly fine for what it is and Star Trek has always had its share of groaner lines. If some of those are fart jokes now it's no big deal to me. Give this show a 7 season run of mediocrity and all of Discovery's budget right now, thanks. Not-Worf and racist robot sold me on this. Thanks to Bender and Iron Giant I have a soft spot for robots in Sci Fi. Edit: also HK-47. Please make him slightly homocidal show.
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So I enjoyed the hell out of that. Yes, the jokes felt weak, and it shows they were basically all in the trailers, but the more Trek stuff was good. It all looks fantastic (I love the cycling red lights on the ceiling for red alert), the soundtrack is gorgeous, and it's got a lot of potential. Macfarlane and Palecki showed some decent chemistry, with a very believable back and forth in their 'we no longer need to fear the banana' bit. It worked in a 'ah, yeah, I see why you were married' way. I have quibbles, like Scott Grimes's character. He's too much, even for this laid-back crew. Mercer wants a tight, well-run ship, so he brings his drunk jerk friend along. Maybe there'll be an arc later on to make him a bit more professional? And I really hope they give the navigator some more character (I'm still learning names). The soda beat was a nice, well-written, human touch, but I still don't know jack about him. Also, I'm not crazy about them sitting commenting on everything like a drat Greek chorus. Suffice to say though, I'm looking forward to seeing more episodes, now all the trailer stuff is out the way.
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Also IO9 has a hardon against the show and is going out of their way to write article after article proving it sucks--so therefore you know it in fact does not suck.
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Sep 12, 2017 00:45
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First episode was basically what I was expecting, generally acceptable with a few too many bad dick/butt/fluid/etc jokes. Now to see if they can maintain even that level of quality. It's still a show that's going to last only a single season though.
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The_Doctor posted:
See, I liked that he brought him along. He seems like exactly the guy you'd bring along for this. He's apparently an amazing pilot, and he's probably his best friend. I can see why people wouldn't like it, but to me it makes sense.
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Sep 12, 2017 00:59
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I have hopes for this. The pilot was underwhelming, but it's a pilot so I won't cast any judgements yet. It's super pretty. There is a ton of CGI going on and I kinda have a feeling that in the end the cost of that is what's going to make fox kill it.
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Sammus posted:I have hopes for this. The pilot was underwhelming, but it's a pilot so I won't cast any judgements yet. Maybe once the network starts tightening the purse strings we'll get some decent sci-fi courtroom episodes and classic bottle stories. 
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CGI is probably cheaper than building sets.
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bull3964 posted:Forbes has a dissenting opinion. Can't anyone "write" for Forbes? That's not their official TV critic or anything, it's just some guy, like anyone in this thread.
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Comrade Fakename posted:it's just some guy, like anyone in this thread. kind of like most every critic ever
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Sep 12, 2017 01:49
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Oh my stars, this is literally Star Trek.
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Cojawfee posted:CGI is probably cheaper than building sets. Especially the TV quality CG they were using.
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Seth MacFarlane is having the time of his fanboy life.
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Sep 12, 2017 01:56
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Caught this a few hours ago. While the humor wasn't gut-busting some of it got me to chuckle. I think if some of the gags were delivered without comment (someone earlier mentioned the dog during the transmission) they'd land for me a lot better. I will say that the post-commercial shot of the ship at "warp" elicited some major Trek nostalgia for me. Super strong girl is also adorable, and now that I think about it, I can't remember any of the characters names. I think I like this more than Enterprise though. I hated Enterprise; all the characters were just so uninteresting. Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 02:30
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seaborgium posted:See, I liked that he brought him along. He seems like exactly the guy you'd bring along for this. He's apparently an amazing pilot, and he's probably his best friend. I can see why people wouldn't like it, but to me it makes sense. Also probably a nod / homage to the James Kirk / Gary Mitchell relationship in Where No Man Has Gone Before, lets just hope they don't go to the edge of the galaxy and make him put on white contact lenses.  It's good that Seth is respectful of his source material and he doesn't go too far with the send-ups. Also cool that he took the pains to point out that starships DO have bathrooms. I still think the bad guy aliens looked too much like Jem'hadar though.
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I liked it well enough, but god drat Seth MacFarlane is not a strong leading man. I get that this whole project is mostly for him to wank off in the star trek universe, but still, there must have been a better actor who could have taken the role.
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That's probably why its an ensemble show. The ex wife character and helmsmen are probably supposed to help take up some of the slack.
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Sep 12, 2017 03:32
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There's a lot of people bashing critics. If you were to judge this show as a comedy, it completely fails in the pilot. Many jokes fall flat.
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xerxus posted:There's a lot of people bashing critics. I agree. The critics didn't have to be expecting Family Guy in Space or even Anything from MacFarlane in Space to feel let down if they were expecting it to primarily be a comedy. Clearly it neither is nor is intended to be, and MacFarlane himself said so. The trailers, I think, are to be blamed more than anything (even more than it being from MacFarlane), and that's obviously on Fox. What most of us were hoping turned out to be true: there isn't nearly the emphasis on comedy (raunchy or otherwise) that the trailers implied. What I'm saying is that Fox will find a way to destroy this show come hell or high water.  vvv: Oh man don't get my hopes up... Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 03:47
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Would not be surprised if Netflix or Amazon made MacFarlane an offer when FOX inevitably pretends they never even ordered the first season in the first place.
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Cojawfee posted:That's probably why its an ensemble show. The ex wife character and helmsmen are probably supposed to help take up some of the slack. Ex wife seems... maybe okay? I have no idea who she is besides "ex wife," but her fleeting moments as a real person seemed fine. Most of the aliens seem interesting though.
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Kazinsal posted:Would not be surprised if Netflix or Amazon made MacFarlane an offer when FOX inevitably pretends they never even ordered the first season in the first place. "How are the ratings on gently caress Island?" "Uh, what?" "gently caress Island, the show I have running at 8 on Sundays." "We don't have that show, we are running something called The Orville" "MAAAACFAAAARLAAAAAAAAAANE!"
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I liked it. I'm glad it wasn't over the top cut-aways and poo poo, but is actually trying to be a scifi show that is also funny. I would have gotten really tired of family guy in space almost immediately. I would like to point out how incredibly dark the death of the scientist was, which i don't think any of the writers considered. In the show it was just a throw away moment hailing back to a TOS special effect, she was dead in moments, but think about it from the scientist's point of view. Her head is suddenly trapped in a time bubble in which she lives for SIXTY YEARS (or something, i can't remember the exact age they said she was at the end), not being able to do anything but slowly go insane or possibly starve to death staring up at the bright light of her own time bubble device.
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I don't think the captain can portray any gravitas, and making a TV show and casting yourself as the main character seems a little off-putting. The dog joke would have been funnier if they hadn't explained it. I think the heavy-cruisers they mentioned would be the equivalent of the Enterprise ncc-1701. This little ship is the equivalent of the ships that get found with everyone dead or get blown up at Wolf-359. This is an interesting perspective, but they have to get us to care about the characters, and I'm not sure they can do it. I hope they can.
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Gawain The Blind posted:I would like to point out how incredibly dark the death of the scientist was, which i don't think any of the writers considered. In the show it was just a throw away moment hailing back to a TOS special effect, she was dead in moments, but think about it from the scientist's point of view. Her head is suddenly trapped in a time bubble in which she lives for SIXTY YEARS (or something, i can't remember the exact age they said she was at the end), not being able to do anything but slowly go insane or possibly starve to death staring up at the bright light of her own time bubble device. Actually she would have been dead right quick once her brain ran out of oxygen and/or glucose...  ...but yeah I get your point and agree. I was pretty surprised at how visceral it was. Beachcomber posted:The dog joke would have been funnier if they hadn't explained it. This. Jesus, just leave it there and let us have a little chuckle. If they had to reference it onscreen the helmsman's response could have been a simple "yeah-UP yes I did" look or something and been a lot funnier. Better yet let the apish, oafish helmsman ask and the navigator make some kind of nuanced response, or... well god, there are so many ways that could have been done better.
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I think I'm sold on this show. It's got some flaws, but the characters (even Seth) are solid enough as people way more real than TOS/TNG characters ever were. I think I'm in love with Adrianne Palicki already. I'm hoping there's at least one "Halston Sage throws poo poo at the fuckin' dome" moment regularly.
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Sep 12, 2017 04:50
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Caught this tonight on Hulu. The acting says sitcom, and the CGI and design says Fifth Element. OK, the acting kind of says Fifth Element too now that I think about it. But I'm in for a while. The premise will keep me going; it seems like it has potential. Winifred Madgers fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 04:59
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Finally got around to watching this. That was Star Trek, all the way through. Most of the dick jokes were inconsequential, and honestly I laughed pretty hard at the one about Lt. Brosef Helmsdouche having an affinity for drawing dicks on displays. I have hope for television science fiction now. e: I kind of found the "Greek chorus", as The_Doctor put it, clever in a possibly unintended way. At least three of the people on the bridge crew other than Mercer and Grayson are just trying to not gently caress up (well, Mercer as well, but of the chorus, it's Helmsdouche, Soda Navigator, and Alara, who is one of the only characters whose name I remember). The other two are Racist Data and Teal'c Expy, the former of whom doesn't get what's going on and the latter gets what's going on and wants no part of it. I like that dynamic. e2: Oh right the doc was on the bridge for a few scenes as well. I suspect she'll get her office in sickbay though and most of her non-landing party scenes will be from there. Or Mercer's room when he eventually decides to try therapy. Kazinsal fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Fifth Element So, you loved it? I can't figure out how else to interpret this post since Fifth Element is like the very best B movie ever ever
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shadow puppet of a posted:I'm hoping Norm McDonald is the Guinan. He was the blob McFarlane ran through.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:He was the blob McFarlane ran through. Are you aware of who Guinan is?
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The Bloop posted:So, you loved it? Well... I don't love the Fifth Element, but I don't hate it. And it's not boring, I mean; it's enjoyable in its own way. But I do wish it were juuust a bit further from silly, which is where I find myself with this too.
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Kazinsal posted:e: I kind of found the "Greek chorus", as The_Doctor put it, clever in a possibly unintended way. At least three of the people on the bridge crew other than Mercer and Grayson are just trying to not gently caress up (well, Mercer as well, but of the chorus, it's Helmsdouche, Soda Navigator, and Alara, who is one of the only characters whose name I remember). The other two are Racist Data and Teal'c Expy, the former of whom doesn't get what's going on and the latter gets what's going on and wants no part of it. I like that dynamic. Yeah, it was your basic office gossip and aknowledging that they have these two-person video calls in a room full of people.
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Sep 12, 2017 05:24
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When Gordon chopped the Ogres head off was that Patrick Stewart doing the "you win"
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Sep 12, 2017 05:45
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The incongruity of the ogre personality was one of my favorite jokes. We got just enough of it to be funny without overstaying its welcome.
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Sep 12, 2017 06:02
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The tree blowing up the starship at the end of the episode was absolutely loving hilarious and wouldn't have worked if the show weren't being played as straight as it is.
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:The tree blowing up the starship at the end of the episode was absolutely loving hilarious and wouldn't have worked if the show weren't being played as straight as it is. Seemed like something from Seth's DnD game.
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