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On the surfaces it's maddeningly easy to trigger. I'll go threw a few loops of lock the laptop to back to the desktop without my eyes on the camera or IR camera. I'll chalk up the presentation to a demo jitters. You can't beat an always on IR camera. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/windows-hello-face-authentication E: The diverging factor of Windows hello and FaceID is it appears FaceID is silently re-enrolling you as your face changes. To prevent any kind of exploits, WH makes you re-enroll with significant facial hair. incoherent fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:How well does it work ? I have it on a Spectre laptop and it works great. You open it and boom it recognizes you nearly instantly.
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Sep 13, 2017 01:54
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Yeah but I unlock my phone from my pocket all the time before I pull it out. This seems like it'll add a couple seconds to every interaction every part of every day. Is it worth it for a screen that's not really edge to edge and has an ugly chin? For $1,000?
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Sep 13, 2017 02:00
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iPad Pro went up in price today. 
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Sep 13, 2017 02:05
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The Verge video has some good examples of iPhone X interactions. Some thoughts: 13s: Closing an app and getting to app switcher look slower now. Especially app switching. 1m30s: FaceID unlock is pretty drat fast. 2m25s: The flashing front facing camera light when the FaceId cameras are working is pretty annoying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYYvHb03Eog
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Sep 13, 2017 02:07
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Michael Scott posted:Yeah but I unlock my phone from my pocket all the time before I pull it out. This seems like it'll add a couple seconds to every interaction every part of every day. Yeah but its not like you could find another phone that has an edge to edge screen, no chin, fingerprint scanner, wireless ch  arging, expandable storage and costs $275 less. Simply not possible.edit: and headphone port Magic Underwear fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 02:08
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Lmao
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Sep 13, 2017 02:09
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Unlock someone's phone by pointing it at their face is real easy apparently Yeah
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Sep 13, 2017 02:15
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based off the verge video it won't unlock till you open your eyes though??
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Sep 13, 2017 02:19
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I think Apple really hosed themselves by making TouchID 2.0 so good. Like, the #1 reason I want the 8 over the X is that I love TouchID so much.
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Sep 13, 2017 02:20
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someone tell me what OLED does that is so special besides turn three red checks into three green checks
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Sep 13, 2017 02:24
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.Z. posted:2m25s: The flashing front facing camera light when the FaceId cameras are working is pretty annoying. lol you're adorable when you have bionic eyes that allow you to see infrared, you lemme know!
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Sep 13, 2017 02:33
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:someone tell me what OLED does that is so special besides turn three red checks into three green checks OLED screens look fantastic. It's the contrast, and it's difficult to describe. Black parts of the screen are actually turned off, not lit up black.
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Sep 13, 2017 02:35
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:someone tell me what OLED does that is so special besides turn three red checks into three green checks
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Sep 13, 2017 02:42
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OLED burn-in is still a thing. Google redid large parts of android depending if you use a OLED or a LCD so it will be interesting to see what apple is doing to prevent it.
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Sep 13, 2017 02:47
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:someone tell me what OLED does that is so special besides turn three red checks into three green checks It's organic. What more needs to be said?
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Sep 13, 2017 02:50
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Mahoning posted:I think Apple really hosed themselves by making TouchID 2.0 so good. Like, the #1 reason I want the 8 over the X is that I love TouchID so much. Yeah giving up TouchID is not something I want to do. Just got to the part where Hair Force One tried to demo FaceID and it didn't work. Hilarious.
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Sep 13, 2017 02:50
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incoherent posted:based off the verge video it won't unlock till you open your eyes though?? One of the presenters (was it Craig?) said so on stage. If you're eyes are not looking at the phone, Face ID will ignore the face.
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incoherent posted:OLED burn-in is still a thing. Google redid large parts of android depending if you use a OLED or a LCD so it will be interesting to see what apple is doing to prevent it. iPhone X-1 will fix it
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Sep 13, 2017 02:50
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So if you are wearing sunglasses you have to constantly take them off to unlock your phone? Lmao
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Sep 13, 2017 02:54
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Tiny Lowtax posted:So if you are wearing sunglasses you have to constantly take them off to unlock your phone? Lmao no
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Sep 13, 2017 02:57
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Tiny Lowtax posted:So if you are wearing sunglasses you have to constantly take them off to unlock your phone? Lmao Rewatching the keynote. Says that you can have your eyes closed to unlock. Does that mean it can see through the sunglasses?
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Sep 13, 2017 02:59
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There's someone manning a computer in a dungeon pressing a button confirming that it's you and then your phone unlocks.
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Sep 13, 2017 03:00
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It doesn't matter if it's 100% accurate and can magically scan through ski masks whilst offering some theoretical 100% security. Having used a nearly-instant face unlock it's annoying and goofy enough that most people will fall back to using pin / pattern / smart unlock (or just pin on iOS) instead. If Apple insist on keeping biometrics-at-access for Apple Pay as well (as opposed to other systems where you can auth your device for a few minutes) it'll also make using that look stupid.
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Sep 13, 2017 03:00
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Over There posted:Does that mean it can see through the sunglasses? sunglasses don't block IR, you have to go out of your way for that
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Sep 13, 2017 03:01
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Pivo posted:sunglasses don't block IR, you have to go out of your way for that Okay cool, I wish they would have mentioned that today
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Sep 13, 2017 03:06
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they did say you could put on glasses, i suppose they didn't specifically say sunglasses. a lot of things that look opaque in the visible spectrum are transparent to IR. remember how you could use 'night mode' on old cameras to peek through thin clothes? i mean, hypothetically. it's the same idea - 'night mode' just turns up the gain, moves the IR filter out of the way, and floods the scene with IR ... it's also why in Verge's video you can see that dot projector, cameras can pick up IR (that same camera will also let you see your infrared remote) although most filter it out, but it's actually invisible to the human eye basically, play around with infrared some more, nerds!
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Sep 13, 2017 03:09
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Will the series one watch be able to charge on the wireless pad or is it only series 3?
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Sep 13, 2017 03:14
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only 3, during the announcement he specifically said 'charge your series 3 apple watch' but i guess that's not excluding the others explicitly so ...
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Sep 13, 2017 03:15
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Pivo posted:only 3, during the announcement he specifically said ‘charge your series 3 apple watch’ Boo 
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Sep 13, 2017 03:16
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It's not like touch ID was perfect. Your skin had to make contact, so cold weather climates with gloves were a nuisance situation. Wet fingers sometimes cause problems. You still find yourself entering codes in many situations rather than using touchID. Yea, it's cool, but it's not so incredibly amazing that moving away from it is a bad thing per se.
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Sep 13, 2017 03:45
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Been watching videos on the demos of the 8 and X. I was leaning on the 8 plus but the X is so good looking ughhhhhh
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XyrlocShammypants posted:It's not like touch ID was perfect. Your skin had to make contact, so cold weather climates with gloves were a nuisance situation. Wet fingers sometimes cause problems. You still find yourself entering codes in many situations rather than using touchID. Yea, it's cool, but it's not so incredibly amazing that moving away from it is a bad thing per se. Ummm pretty much everything you just said can also be said about touchscreen technology.
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Sep 13, 2017 03:53
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You know what's cool? Being able to unlock your phone while it's on your desk. Having to point it at your dumb face to quickly unlock is painfully stupid. Also, I wonder what force shut down will be without a second button to hold.
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Sep 13, 2017 03:55
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You can still hold two buttons. Side button and volume down. Same as it is on the 7(+) no?
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Sep 13, 2017 03:57
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Mahoning posted:Ummm pretty much everything you just said can also be said about touchscreen technology. Yes even the best technology is imperfect, so one day when we have brain implants to activate functions on our phone we can move past the touch part entirely
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Sep 13, 2017 04:09
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Magic Underwear posted:Yeah but its not like you could find another phone that has an edge to edge screen, no chin, fingerprint scanner, wireless ch hey cool can it run ios?
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Sep 13, 2017 04:24
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Pivo posted:You can still hold two buttons. Side button and volume down. Same as it is on the 7(+) no? Any idea what's the Screen shot combo
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How am I supposed to secretly message my mafia boss with my phone in my pocket if I have to look at it to unlock it
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