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89 | 55.28% |
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6 | 3.73% |
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58 | 36.02% |
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Can Jon Jones' hot piss melt steel beams?
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Sep 13, 2017 21:32
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Bombadilillo posted:Im not one for That is a theory some people are speculating, that he tried to take it at a level that is too low to detect, but he failed to account for what happens when he's dehydrated. Its more plausible than someone nefariously somehow getting it into his system without his knowledge.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:34
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but passing all through leading up to the fight and then popping for a long term use substance doesn't make sense. That why I asked if the concentrated from the weight cut, has any basis in chemical reality.
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EmmyOk posted:The UFC covering an initial failure up is pretty dumb considering they didn't do that for 200 if it were even a possibility. USADA is larger than the UFC. They're a NGO non-profit that receives federal funding. They do the testing for the olympics. Their integrity is more valuable than "well the UFC pays us I guess we can bury these test results".
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Sep 13, 2017 21:35
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The most plausible theory, of course, still being the one that is "he's a fuckup"
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Sep 13, 2017 21:36
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EmmyOk posted:The UFC covering an initial failure up is pretty dumb considering they didn't do that for 200 if it were even a possibility. Its also USADA, hiring them as an independent administrator is literally the only thing that made people pause and go "oh..... huh, I guess the UFC is actually getting serious". USADA is pretty much above question in the world of anti-doping.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:36
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mewse posted:USADA is larger than the UFC. They're a NGO non-profit that receives federal funding. They do the testing for the olympics. Their integrity is more valuable than "well the UFC pays us I guess we can bury these test results". Yep. Uncovering proof that USADA is helping the UFC cheat their own anti-doping system would be explosive news to the point of being an existential threat to USADA itself. There would be a massive congressional investigation.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:37
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Well off course that's what they'd want you guys to think.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:51
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If the pills fo yo dick You must acquit.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:55
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mewse posted:USADA is larger than the UFC. They're a NGO non-profit that receives federal funding. They do the testing for the olympics. Their integrity is more valuable than "well the UFC pays us I guess we can bury these test results". Oh yeah I know. I meant even if that guy thought a cover-up was possible then they had way better times they would have chosen for example 200. e: In no way do I there ever was or is covering up, just entertaining tesilentials idea and even then it wouldn't make sense. EmmyOk fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 21:56
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Was adding to your comment not arguing against it 
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Sep 13, 2017 22:02
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EmmyOk posted:Oh yeah I know. I meant even if that guy thought a cover-up was possible then they had way better times they would have chosen for example 200. The most I might go along with is a situation where if some samples for several fighters on a card were collected at the borderline of being before/after the fight and the UFC refuses to pay extra to fast-track those samples.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:05
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Looks like Nevada must have approved a request to add a 13th bout. If not formally, then informally. https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/908075554011676672
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Sep 13, 2017 22:13
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LobsterMobster posted:
gently caress
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Sep 13, 2017 22:18
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The filthy cheating JT Money got what he deserved. I'm glad the sport is a little bit cleaner now that he's gone.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:23
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Rigel posted:Looks like Nevada must have approved a request to add a 13th bout. If not formally, then informally. wonder if mighty mouse will still fight when borg misses weight
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Sep 13, 2017 22:27
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Skip My Posts posted:wonder if mighty mouse will still fight when borg misses weight He needs the money, so probably
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Sep 13, 2017 22:33
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Chris James 2 posted:The most plausible theory, of course, still being the one that is "he's a fuckup" Yeah, exactly. Bombadilillo posted:Jones a cheater? Yeah Not surprising. You can balance the equation by substituting "JBJ is a huge dumbass and has way lower doping IQ than fight IQ" for ???.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:38
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Rogan said he will have Novitsky on his podcast very soon to discuss the Jones case
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Sep 13, 2017 22:38
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even though jones is a cheater and a gently caress up i hope he can pull some poo poo out of a hat and just lose posting privileges for 1 year because he's really good at fighting
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Sep 13, 2017 22:41
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Triticum Guzzler posted:even though jones is a cheater and a gently caress up i hope he can pull some poo poo out of a hat and just lose posting privileges for 1 year because he's really good at fighting The shorter the suspension the fewer times we have to see DC fight random middleweights before Jon tries to beat his time trial record.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:52
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Wasn't Jones' testosterone level suspiciously low before the his first fight against DC? Even though he didn't get caught for that one it seems likely he's been cheating this whole time.Bombadilillo posted:Im not one for NoDamage fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 22:56
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Triticum Guzzler posted:even though jones is a cheater and a gently caress up i hope he can pull some poo poo out of a hat and just lose posting privileges for 1 year because he's really good at fighting Counterpoint: he looked like dogshit in the one fight we are pretty sure he didn't juice for
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Sep 13, 2017 23:20
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Vengarr posted:Counterpoint: he looked like dogshit in the one fight we are pretty sure he didn't juice for He looked way too in shape this time around, but I have loved to see DC fight dismantle that version of Jones.
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Sep 13, 2017 23:30
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tesilential posted:Jones def did/does steroids. IMO the only interesting conspiracy theory shout out to the NY badass is did he fail at least one other test before the fight and it was covered up until after the fight? Nonbelievers will be quick to say "bbbut the testing is completely anonymous" but I can easily refute that by stating that UFC hires USADA and can dictate to them anything they want. they cant. it would be a big scandal if they did since usada handle most olympic sports in the usa and plenty of other ones besides that
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Sep 13, 2017 23:33
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Bluedeanie posted:James Thompson weren't in the UFC 
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Sep 13, 2017 23:34
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Skip My Posts posted:wonder if mighty mouse will still fight when borg misses weight Under the newish "if someone misses weight" rules it might still be considered a title defence. In the event of a challenger missing weight and winning, the title becomes vacant. I remember reading about that when the current "one-way title shot" rules (e.g. Holloway-Pettis) became official practice a few years back, but I can't find it now.
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Sep 13, 2017 23:35
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CommonShore posted:Under the newish "if someone misses weight" rules it might still be considered a title defence. In the event of a challenger missing weight and winning, the title becomes vacant. I remember reading about that when the current "one-way title shot" rules (e.g. Holloway-Pettis) became official practice a few years back, but I can't find it now. I don't believe the title becomes vacant if the challenger misses weight and wins. Its no longer a title fight and doesn't count as a title defense (which is why people were saying DJ would be screwed if TJ missed weight). The basic idea is the guy who has the disadvantage (made weight) isn't punished by a loss, which is why the challenger still gets the belt if he beats a champ who misses weight
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Sep 13, 2017 23:39
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What is an Alex Reyes?
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Sep 13, 2017 23:39
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nwo hatchet man posted:What is an Alex Reyes? It appears that he hasn't fought in 2 years, Platinum Mike on three days notice is a hell of a comeback fight.
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Sep 13, 2017 23:59
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I assumed they would have lined up Belal since his opponent fell through too
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Sep 14, 2017 00:03
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Work Friend Keven posted:The filthy cheating JT Money got what he deserved. I'm glad the sport is a little bit cleaner now that he's gone. Lol
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Sep 14, 2017 00:07
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NoDamage posted:Wasn't Jones' testosterone level suspiciously low before the his first fight against DC? Even though he didn't get caught for that one it seems likely he's been cheating this whole time. I'm sure he was dirty during those tests. I want to know why the tests failed. The blood vs urine could explain it fully but I'd love an article on that as opposed to a goon who said it backwards. Also the weight cut concentration seems layman plausable. But could easily be way off. Gotta catch these things before the fight if your gonna catch them. Now I had to watch DC cry 
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Sep 14, 2017 00:34
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layman plausable lmao
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Sep 14, 2017 00:39
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Let us all agree that the ufc must immediately cut daniel cormier
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Sep 14, 2017 00:49
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Hell not before his superfight against, I don't know, maybe Chris wideman or something
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Sep 14, 2017 00:51
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Cormier was reinstated as the champ at 205.
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Sep 14, 2017 01:04
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bet that feels weird
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Sep 14, 2017 01:05
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Sep 14, 2017 01:13
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Bundt Cake posted:old but I want to bring it up again. carefully worded, except he forgot to say jones didnt do it Aha I love this quote. Meticulous work doesn't seem appropriate to 'not taking shitloads of venom from bane's repository'.
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Jones has to have the record for most stripped champion right?
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