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Al Borland Corp. posted:So you're saying it's a final fantasy I think it's actually a pokeymans
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The series stems from FF2 in a lot of ways, so kinda-sorta? Never really played the SaGa games but the way I interpret them is they're what you'd get if Final Fantasy games could get head trauma.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:03
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Improbable Lobster posted:I think it's actually a pokeymans drat I forgot about Pokemon. There's seven rpgs. gently caress, eight if you count Tecmo's Sword of the Stars.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:04
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When is square going to remaster brave fencer musashi?
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Al Borland Corp. posted:drat I forgot about Pokemon. There's seven rpgs. gently caress, eight if you count Tecmo's Sword of the Stars. Is Tecmo Bowl a football RPG?
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Sep 14, 2017 21:05
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cheetah7071 posted:If you're gonna be extremely reductive about RPGs then how do Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest not end up in the same extremely reductive category I know this is not your point, but if we're doing a flowchart with "Role-playing Video Game" at the top, the difference in perspective between DQ and FF is where I definitely make the first split off. And I know I can't bring myself to play games that put you in the DQ first-person perspective during battles. Something about it makes the whole exercise feel too abstract. Gotta see my dudes take one step forward and do a 4-frame animation.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:09
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Thank you all. If it's being made by the same people then I guess it's a spiritual sequel? Anyway, Primrose was fun. Battling is simple but fun enough. And it's all very pretty. I put the voices on Japanese though, when they VO in English I feel like I have to hear them out which just dragged things out. I'll get to Knight dude later this weekend.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:09
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It's not made by the same people. edit: at least im pretty sure it's not. raditts posted:SaGa is lesser-known Square RPG series that started as a trilogy on Gameboy that was released in the US as "Final Fantasy Legend," followed by an SNES series of three more games called "Romancing SaGa" that never made it out of Japan until it got re-released on mobile recently, and then a PS1 series of two more called SaGa Frontier during that phase when pretty much every mediocre RPG was getting a US release in the wake of FF7. There's three other games there as well. Unlimited SaGa and the remake of Romancing SaGa 1, both of which are on PS2 and in English, and Scarlet Grace which is Vita exclusive.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:10
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really hope vs super mario bros will be out before odyssey. kinda hilarious that the closest thing to the virtual console is through those neo geo arcade guys but whatever, i'll take it. actually really pump about it tbh, i'm assuming they'll have the same stuff the neo geo ones have, like the time trials and one life high score stuff. gonna rock. edit: oh poo poo looking over the list of vs. arcade machines and i didnt know castlevania had one. oh please oh please oh please. Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 21:12
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Al Borland Corp. posted:drat I forgot about Pokemon. There's seven rpgs. gently caress, eight if you count Tecmo's Sword of the Stars. On further reflection, it's a skysrim
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Sep 14, 2017 21:15
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Vikar Jerome posted:really hope vs super mario bros will be out before odyssey. kinda hilarious that the closest thing to the virtual console is through those neo geo arcade guys but whatever, i'll take it. actually really pump about it tbh, i'm assuming they'll have the same stuff the neo geo ones have, like the time trials and one life high score stuff. gonna rock. Speaking of, does anyone know how the VS arcade games are different? I'm pretty sure there are some subtle differences. For example, I'm pretty sure VS Castlevania has a pretty aggressive timer since it was an arcade game. I might actually be interested in arcade Punch Out.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:16
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katkillad2 posted:Speaking of, does anyone know how the VS arcade games are different? I'm pretty sure there are some subtle differences. i read that vs super mario bros goes all lost levels but i don't know how true that is. gonna get vs mario bros, super mario bros, castlevania, punch out and maybe tetris if they do that one.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:18
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Vs. SMB has a different level order and a few stage changes. It is actually harder in the long run.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:19
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The real question is will they keep the 3 minute max timer in vs super Mario bros
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Sep 14, 2017 21:27
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Improbable Lobster posted:On further reflection, it's a skysrim Western rpg's don't count. Those are first person shooters
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Played Octopath for an hour and a half last night. Finished the warrior's story and recruited the 2nd character but didn't go check out the ruins (?) or do the quests that opened up, aside from one in the desert town where you just beat up some jerk. Some thoughts: - Voice acting is rough but I'd be shocked if the voices are finalized. Some of them sound like they were probably SE employees but I *think* Olberic's voice actor is Fenrich from Disgaea 4? - Would like to be able to skip through text faster at times. - Combat is pretty straightforward and the weapon swapping to hit weaknesses is neat. - Break mechanic in combat is hilariously OP and even when solo if you can hit an enemy's weakness in 2 hits or less you can stunlock them forever, basically. - Fighting 2 enemies with 1 hit stun means you can alternate targets each turn to lock them down and slowly kill them without taking damage (or you just AOE them repeatedly). - Turns that you spend extra points on probably shouldn't generate a new point next round but in the full game I imagine it won't feel as overpowering. - Character unique Path skills are really cool and I imagine there's going to be some insane/complex/hidden quests in the main game that makes use of most/all those skills. - Load times are rough but it's a beta/demo so I'd be kinda shocked if they weren't. - Game screams I'M A SAGA GAME so much that the only reason they might not call it SaGa Frontier 3 is because the name isn't as well known outside Japan. - I'm probably going to want (pixelated) amiibos of all 8 characters. - Bloom effect feels a bit extreme but it might also just be my 9 year old TV at this point. Olberic was basically a glowing white blob in the bandit cave though. Definitely needs some work though. - Items don't seem to have a description when you highlight them, such as when using items in combat? It's needed and one of many things going in the survey. Verdict: Day 1 pre-order. In that Nintendo Direct there were Definite Switch Buys of Mario Odyssey, Octopath Traveller, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and possibly Kirby. I might get EO5 for my 3DS, assuming it's not "New 3DS2/DS only" but I didn't get very far in to EO4 before other games pulled me away. DOOM and Wolfenstein would be buys for me except I've already beaten DOOM on PC and if I'm going to replay that, or play Wolfenstein it'll be on PC since I have a 1440p 144hz monitor. Real hurthling! posted:I played some octopath traveller and its good. Battle system is cool. but not being able to skip conversations makes me not want to play it I'd like to be able to skip through conversations (faster, since pressing A speeds up the text) as well but it's by no means a deal breaker. I imagine there is going to be a LOT of talking in the full game though. Tijuana Bibliophile posted:$64 is pretty cheap for eight 3350 mAh cells with a good charging/protection IC Don't buy it if you plan to use it while flying because I'm pretty sure that thing is well over what TSA allows on planes. Zutaten posted:Octopath Traveller is SaGa Frontier in a witness protection program, given a nice new home on the Switch. And I'm the nosy neighbour looking at it, going "Don't I know you from somewhere?" This game is SaGa Frontier 3. Like, in the "what other feedback do you have for us" section that survey will likely have, my first this is going to be CALL THIS SAGA FRONTIER 3 GODDAMNIT. Though hopefully this game is actually finished, unlike SaGa Frontier.  (I know SaGa Frontier 2 was finished but it wasn't a very good game. Especially the last war battle where it was basically "turtle in a very specific way and pray the AI doesn't move until turn X or you lose, period." Dr. VooDoo posted:Gonna It won't but if if the buzz is good for it over the next few months it could make a killing since the only other RPG competition it has is Xenoblade and they're two very, very different styles of RPG. Like if this game pulls out unexpected sales the way Xenoblade Chronicles and Bravely Default did we're probably going to get a near-immediate "oh yeah we're making another of these without question" kind of response. Frankston posted:How do I beat the brigand boss in octopath? I just don't have enough healing items to tank the fight and I don't do enough damage to kill anyone before the boss KO's me with his special attack. What level are you? I ran around a bit and ended up fighting him at level 6 and only used 1 healing item. Also immediately broke him when he used Bide because it seemed like a setup for him wrecking me. Lakbay posted:SaGa Frontier has multiple protagonists with their own individual, unique plots in a shared gameworld, that's the similarity with Octopath from what they've shown of the game so far. Also SaGa Frontier was released unfinished. At least one character, Lute, has almost no story and you can go to the final dungeon after about 15-20 minutes of gameplay IIRC. Doing so will get you destroyed but it's possible. Another character, Fuse, never got their story but they can still be recruited by other characters when you play through their stories. What story does exist varies from dumb (Rikki) to awesome. Red is literally a Power Ranger and he can't transform in to Alkaiser if there are any conscious human/monster party members because Alkaiser has to keep his identity a secret. He can transform with robot party members present and conscious though, presumably because they can all be made to keep his secret. He even threatens his story-specific (medical) robot recruit to this effect because said robot figures out Red's secret. Then you have Blue. Blue's story is both janky as hell and kinda awesome. Janky because it leaves out a lot of useful information and awesome because Blue and his brother are actually two halves of the same person, and Blue is the evil/rear end in a top hat half. When they duel before the end of the game whomever wins is who you play for the rest of the game so even if you lose the fight you finish the story as Rouge. The final boss fight is kinda hosed up because they don't ever seem to explain why the fight freezes suddenly, when it's because you've just been sealed away with the Big Bad you're fighting. Al Borland Corp. posted:drat I forgot about Pokemon. There's seven rpgs. gently caress, eight if you count Tecmo's Sword of the Stars. Nobody who recognizes this masterpiece of an RPG can be all that bad.  Huxley posted:I know this is not your point, but if we're doing a flowchart with "Role-playing Video Game" at the top, the difference in perspective between DQ and FF is where I definitely make the first split off. The RPG tree starts with D&D and branches in to Bard's Tale/Wizardy in one branch and Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest in another. 
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Zelder posted:The real question is will they keep the 3 minute max timer in vs super Mario bros yeah these hamster arcade archives are arcade perfect but i bet there will be the standard options of changing it for regular play but keeping it for the single coin high score modes.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:32
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Man I'd buy a two pack of the Bravely Default games on Switch in a minute. I hate playing on the 3DS screen now.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:34
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Evil Fluffy posted:DOOM and Wolfenstein would be buys for me except I've already beaten DOOM on PC and if I'm going to replay that, or play Wolfenstein it'll be on PC since I have a 1440p 144hz monitor. Basically same, but I still want to buy the ports to show support for the uncommon ports for a Nintendo system. It's really something that this is a real thing we have now, and it'd be sad if they ended up flopping even though a lot of us cry over 3rd party Nintendo support a bunch.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:drat I forgot about Pokemon. There's seven rpgs. gently caress, eight if you count Tecmo's Sword of the Stars. Can't forget the Mario RPGs.
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Sep 14, 2017 21:41
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Zelder posted:The real question is will they keep the 3 minute max timer in vs super Mario bros You're thinking of the Playchoice10 Super Mario Bros, which was just the NES version IIRC. Vs. SMB is a standalone machine. Evil Fluffy posted:This game is SaGa Frontier 3. Like, in the "what other feedback do you have for us" section that survey will likely have, my first this is going to be CALL THIS SAGA FRONTIER 3 GODDAMNIT. Why would you want a good game to be name-associated with bad games 
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Sep 14, 2017 21:42
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Suspicious Cook posted:If, for some reason, you haven't played this game yet, now's your chance. It's one of my favorite indie games of all time and definitely my favorite rhythm game. Oh my god this is a day-1 for me If you don't own this game, this is an absolute gem
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Sep 14, 2017 21:44
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Does the demo data of octopath transfer to the full version?
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Sep 14, 2017 21:46
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*finger of monkey paw curls up* You're getting a Bethesda character for Smash but it's the generic Skyrim viking bastard.
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Lakbay posted:Does the demo data of octopath transfer to the full version? Almost certainly not because it seems to be unfinished. They might give you extra stuff in the full version though like they did with Bravely Second
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raditts posted:You're thinking of the Playchoice10 Super Mario Bros, which was just the NES version IIRC. Vs. SMB is a standalone machine. Huh I didn't know that. My local barcade has made a fool out of me
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Sep 14, 2017 21:50
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Where is the Super Mario Odyssey thread to discuss the latest Switch sensation, Super Mario Odyssey? Last night's direct got me super hyped for it.
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Evil Fluffy posted:- Items don't seem to have a description when you highlight them, such as when using items in combat? It's needed and one of many things going in the survey. Press Y. You can see the hint for this in the pause menu.
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Funny thing about EO5; I heard the battle theme in the Direct and it was kinda poo poo. Pass.
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Zelder posted:Huh I didn't know that. My local barcade has made a fool out of me Yeah, they have a Vs. SMB machine in the "red tent" form factor at the arcade in the mall near where I live. 
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Sep 14, 2017 22:24
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The game is sex for soundtrack and audio design. The intro syncing the shotgun to music as you start the first level tells you you’re going to have an amazing time I forgot Optimus Prime was Doom canon.... Also, I played it a lot late at night with my surround sound turned down (not sure why I never used my gaming headset). When I pick it back up I should crank that audio. As tempted as I am to play it on Switch, will just stick with PS4. I didn't get Wolfenstein 2 yet, so will do that on Switch if it performs decently. Still a little worried about these two running decently. Heck, I am worried Skyrim will be PS3/360 quality.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:36
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FireMrshlBill posted:I forgot Optimus Prime was Doom canon.... Despite sounding almost identical to Optimus Prime it's not the same voice actor.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:55
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Evil Fluffy posted:Despite sounding almost identical to Optimus Prime it's not the same voice actor. Well of course it's not, he's evil Optimus Prime.
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Sep 14, 2017 23:00
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Evil Fluffy posted:Despite sounding almost identical to Optimus Prime it's not the same voice actor. Haha, ya. Didn't think it was really Cullen... but sounds pretty close
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Sep 14, 2017 23:01
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Suspicious Cook posted:If, for some reason, you haven't played this game yet, now's your chance. It's one of my favorite indie games of all time and definitely my favorite rhythm game. needs spelunky to round out the indie game trifecta of perfection
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I spent so much time in Spelunky and I never got to the fourth world.
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If we get Spelunky, I hope we get a new soundtrack for it. I love everything about that game but that.
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I played Doom on someone's non-pro ps4 and it had horrible screen tearing. Hope that isn't the case on the Switch
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