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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I still sometimes miss the trackball on my HTC hero - it's by far the easiest way to move the cursor when writing. Better spelling correction has made that less important in English, but to this day no dictionary seems to understand Norwegian compound words.

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Kelp Me! posted:

also the Motorola Droid 4 was the single greatest slide-out-keyboard Android phone of all time by a wide margin

look at this indestructible motherfucker

I still don't understand why not one company in the entire world makes a modern android phone with a real keyboard. It's not rocket science and there are enough whiners to make it feasible. all you have to do it rip off an existing design.

There is a new Psion coming soon:



But it's $400 for the Indiegogo vaporware version and $600 when it actually exists and that's the point where you think is it worth so much more than a cheap chromebook.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/

Yet again I've been looking at getting an original 5mx from ebay and trying to get it working with a modern PC (hint, it won't)

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Computer viking posted:

I still sometimes miss the trackball on my HTC hero - it's by far the easiest way to move the cursor when writing.
Another reason why SwiftKey is great - arrow keys.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Collateral Damage posted:

Another reason why SwiftKey is great - arrow keys.

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Kelp Me! posted:

also the Motorola Droid 4 was the single greatest slide-out-keyboard Android phone of all time by a wide margin

look at this indestructible motherfucker

I used to have an LG Rumor, and now I miss the damned thing :(

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

My problem isn't with keyboards on screen.

My problem is with keyboards on screen on lovely phones that slow to poo poo after an hour.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Neito posted:

My problem isn't with keyboards on screen.

My problem is with keyboards on screen on lovely phones that slow to poo poo after an hour.

Solution: Get an iPhone.
At least a 5.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Johnny Aztec posted:

Solution: Get an iPhone.
At least a 5.

Too invested in Android at this point. Seven years is a hella muscle memory.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Collateral Damage posted:

Another reason why SwiftKey is great - arrow keys.
The iPhone's 3D Touch cursor is my favorite. Press hard and the keyboard becomes a trackpad.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
This is my most favorite phone I ever owned, HTC Touch Pro. It ran Windows Mobile and was my first smartphone

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Wasabi the J posted:

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

goddamn why didn't I know this
Do you know how long I'd sometimes spend tapping my screen trying to get the cursor where I needed it to be?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

KakerMix posted:

goddamn why didn't I know this
Do you know how long I'd sometimes spend tapping my screen trying to get the cursor where I needed it to be?

I watch tutorials because I'm old and realized I was struggling with technology.

Also it's buried in the settings under glide typing.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


spog posted:

Yet again I've been looking at getting an original 5mx from ebay and trying to get it working with a modern PC (hint, it won't)



I loved my 5mx. It owned, I wish I still had it. People thought it was from the future, not noticing the mono screen.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Wasabi the J posted:

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

Dammit! You are a hero!

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Wasabi the J posted:

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

Holy poo poo.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


gently caress it does too
This owns

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

It can't be that much bet...

Jesus H Christ, now it's 2011 and it's like I'm holding my HTC Evo again. I miss that phone.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Wasabi the J posted:

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

Thank you very much

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Holy poo poo a feature that the default keyboard has but Swiftkey does not???

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Wasabi the J posted:

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

Holy poo poo

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




I've literally used the default keyboard for years at this point and have never noticed or heard of that feature. It's awesome.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I've given Apple poo poo over their documented-nowhere little features ("two-finger hardswipe from the lower left to the upper right to automatically post all cat pictures to Facebook") but this Google keyboard thing is pretty classic. I've been using Android for 6 years and never knew, I've been dealing with trying to tap or drag the loving cursor into the correct place this whole time.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


To be fair it is a relatively recent addition to Gboard, within the last couple of years.

Its one of the few features that I wish swiftkey had.

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe
Now somebody post the secret swipes to make precise text selection not rear end.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I mean Swiftkey gives you the option to have the directional arrows show up on the keyboard which is nice, but that's a whole lotta screen real estate for 4 buttons that I literally use for a single specific purpose =/

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Wasabi the J posted:

The standard GBoard has text cursor movement by sliding on the spacebar???

:raise:

(picks up phone, tries it)

:aaaaa:

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

Is the Android thread all cluttered up with people talking about Telex machines or something?

bigman.50grand
Mar 31, 2007
no

Kelp Me! posted:

I mean Swiftkey gives you the option to have the directional arrows show up on the keyboard which is nice, but that's a whole lotta screen real estate for 4 buttons that I literally use for a single specific purpose =/

Gboard does something similar. Hit the > that's left of the predictive text bar. Then hit ... and select Text Editor.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Horace posted:

Is the Android thread all cluttered up with people talking about Telex machines or something?

The entire thread can be replaced by three bots posting a never ending stream of "LG sucks, get a Pixel, here's how to scam Google for a Pixel." Have them spurt a few bitches about the latest Android OS for about two months after release.



bigman.50grand posted:

Gboard does something similar. Hit the > that's left of the predictive text bar. Then hit ... and select Text Editor.

This is next level hell yeah.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
Do modern day programmers still uses flowcharts? Waaaay back in the mid-80s, I took some programing classes (primarily COBOL74) and we had a class in flowcharting.

I specifically remember one exercise that everyone failed for the exact same reason.

You had control over a humanoid robot sitting in a chair in a long hallway. You had to determine how many steps away from the wall the robot was sitting. The robot could understand only the following commands: stand, take one step forward, raise arm, & lower arm. The idea being that the robot would raise its arm and touch the wall.

What do you think the mistake was?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Mister Kingdom posted:

Do modern day programmers still uses flowcharts? Waaaay back in the mid-80s, I took some programing classes (primarily COBOL74) and we had a class in flowcharting.

I specifically remember one exercise that everyone failed for the exact same reason.

You had control over a humanoid robot sitting in a chair in a long hallway. You had to determine how many steps away from the wall the robot was sitting. The robot could understand only the following commands: stand, take one step forward, raise arm, & lower arm. The idea being that the robot would raise its arm and touch the wall.

What do you think the mistake was?

The only I can think that *may* not be obvious:

They forgot to check for the wall immediately upon standing.

The other one I thought of "Didn't lower the arm after the wall check" I would think would be part of the program requirements, so it was unlikely to be missed by EVERYONE.


It's probably something so insanely nitpicky and stupidly obvious I'll facepalm, right?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Edge conditions have been mentioned, so I’ll go with “off‐by‐one error”.

e: We don’t have the full problem statement, but it’s possible that there’s supposed to be an upper bound. The robot is in a hallway. There’s only so far it can be from the side walls.

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Proteus Jones posted:

The only I can think that *may* not be obvious:

They forgot to check for the wall immediately upon standing.

That was it. The teacher thought it was hilarious. A few people forgot to create and/or update the counter, but everybody forgot to check to see if the robot was sitting directly in front of the wall.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Mister Kingdom posted:

Do modern day programmers still uses flowcharts? Waaaay back in the mid-80s, I took some programing classes (primarily COBOL74) and we had a class in flowcharting.

I specifically remember one exercise that everyone failed for the exact same reason.

You had control over a humanoid robot sitting in a chair in a long hallway. You had to determine how many steps away from the wall the robot was sitting. The robot could understand only the following commands: stand, take one step forward, raise arm, & lower arm. The idea being that the robot would raise its arm and touch the wall.

What do you think the mistake was?

A variation of Proteus Jones answer: the loop was step forward, raise arm, lower arm instead of raise arm, lower arm, step forward?

-e-
Too late :(

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Lurking Haro posted:

A variation of Proteus Jones answer: the loop was step forward, raise arm, lower arm instead of raise arm, lower arm, step forward?

-e-
Too late :(

It should have gone:

Set counter to zero
Stand
Raise arm
Check for wall
If yes, stop
If no: lower arm, take one step forward, add one to counter, raise arm, etc

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007
You know, it's a loving robot. Not like it's arm is going to get tired or anything...

(ONLY time I did flowcharts was COBOL class. I got him once. I had a friend who had taken the class previously for creds while working as a COBOL programmer at Caterpillar. He slipped me a couple of exercises that I got docked for, since "that's not how they do it in business". My teacher and I NEVER stopped feuding over DO WHILE NOT EOF loops. He wanted an EOF check EVERY loop. Really? Oh, yeah, you're a teacher.)

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




I've been using swiftkey for like 5 years and paid for it back in the day and I'm switching to the Google keyboard because of the fuckin space bar thing, bye bitch

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
Flow charts aren't like, formally taught in those classes anymore... but they're still used to explain logic because everyone knows them well enough to do simple stuff. Actually I think we might have covered them in like third grade as part of logic-teaching? Not sure.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Mister Kingdom posted:

It should have gone:

Set counter to zero
Stand
Raise arm
Check for wall
If yes, stop
If no: lower arm, take one step forward, add one to counter, raise arm, etc

No, you should check for the wall before standing - it's possible that there isn't space to stand up in the first place.

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Needs a kill all humans subroutine.

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