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What exactly happened that made everybody so pessimistic about Discovery? I haven't been keeping up.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:34
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Caphi posted:What exactly happened that made everybody so pessimistic about Discovery? I haven't been keeping up. It's had a troubled production. The original showrunner, Bryan Fuller, was fired/quit over creative differences with the network. It's been delayed nearly a year. The only way to legally watch it in the US is CBS's terrible streaming service. They've got a review embargo up until the day it comes out. Also, Trek fans are just generally tired of prequels since that's all the franchise has been doing for over a decade. I've got low expectations but I hope it's good despite all this. Pakled fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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Sep 15, 2017 23:43
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Lol in the first AMA I asked an Orville question that got answered and got a bunch of people accusing me of being a studio plant
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Sep 15, 2017 23:47
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Caphi posted:What exactly happened that made everybody so pessimistic about Discovery? I haven't been keeping up. Personally? Looks like another reboot, except this one's based on Abrams' video resume for Star Wars instead of actual Star Trek. I expect an edgy, fresh Star Trek targeted at what a 50 year old studio exec roughly supposes millennials to be Also, streaming only and it's another prequel. Something in the same universe as TNG, DS9 and Voyager would rule. Hell, the federation's size would invite cultural conflicts between Earth and the Federation's periphery. They could do something with that Accretionist fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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Sep 15, 2017 23:55
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I loved the hell out of the pilot, and I hope it stays as fun and good throughout. It's like TNG with more realistic interpersonal relationships with a touch of DS9 conflicts. Anyone who thinks regular Joes schlepping around on a low priority ship wouldn't be joking around on the regular has never worked a blue collar job or been in the military. It's refreshing as gently caress in my Star Trek. Because that's what it is. It's Star Trek. Edit: also, come the gently caress on now, that tree trick was loving GREAT.
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Sep 16, 2017 00:04
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If TOS was supposed to Hornblower in Space, but Orville ends up being a sort of Mister Roberts in Space, I'd be beyond thrilled.
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Sep 16, 2017 00:39
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Sash! posted:Mister Roberts in Space Today is a good day in the neighborhood.
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Sep 16, 2017 01:28
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jeeves posted:I wish he wouldn't have cast himself as the star. It would be like Roddenberry casting himself-- get a real actor in there jeez. There is something about his dopey face that just brings down my enjoyment for this show. Yeah, he should've cast his wife as the second in command instead.
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Sep 16, 2017 01:37
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Caphi posted:What exactly happened that made everybody so pessimistic about Discovery? I haven't been keeping up. Well, for me it was when they mentioned that Fuller proposed it as having a "more heavily allegorical and complex plot" which they then said they mostly tossed out when he left.
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Sep 16, 2017 02:05
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duz posted:Yeah, he should've cast his wife as the second in command instead. Girlfriend. He didn't divorce his first wife and marry her until after the show ended.
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Sep 16, 2017 02:20
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The_Doctor posted:Seth has done two Reddit AMAs today, the second off his own bat because the first was such a disaster. Apparently the PR company only wanted him answering questions about The Orville. Both AMA's are really entertaining for completely different reasons.
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Sep 16, 2017 02:42
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Mister Kingdom posted:Look on the desk: Godamnit. 
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Sep 16, 2017 02:52
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mllaneza posted:Godamnit. How do we know that's not Orville Redenbacher's plane?
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Sep 16, 2017 03:41
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I kinda wish the ex wife was the captain, and McFarlane was the first officer. She has more gravitas; whereas McFarlane feels Riker-y.
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Sep 16, 2017 04:09
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Mr. Fowl posted:Well, for me it was when they mentioned that Fuller proposed it as having a "more heavily allegorical and complex plot" which they then said they mostly tossed out when he left. Hannibal in Space, sign me the gently caress up 
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Sep 16, 2017 04:56
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I finally got a chance to watch the pilot episode of The Orville and I'm skipping about twelve pages in the thread and I have a few reactions. 1. It's competent, if very basic, sci-fi. For example, the time field thing is neat but its effects don't make a whole lot of sense from a "thinking it through" point of view, but whatever. That's not the major point of the story. 2. Oh my god this is TNG with the serial numbers filed off and the seriousness dial turned down a couple of notches. 3. The music is great, I love the full orchestra. Even if the happy music has a LOT in common with the music from Wing Commander. I mean a LOT: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsWcy2M_EgI&t=115s Overall reaction: It isn't brilliant but it has a hell of a lot of potential. I'd give equal odds that this show crashes and burns after a few episodes vs. becoming something noteworthy.
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Sep 16, 2017 05:31
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The Lord Bude posted:I kinda wish the ex wife was the captain, and McFarlane was the first officer. She has more gravitas; whereas McFarlane feels Riker-y. Hey, just wanted to let you know I'm also disappointed about Cortana. It's the main reason I disabled her on Windows 10 and didn't buy an Xbox One.
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Sep 16, 2017 06:04
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Caphi posted:What exactly happened that made everybody so pessimistic about Discovery? I haven't been keeping up. the told critics they wouldn't be allowed to review the show before it came out. This usually means a movie/game is complete poo poo. Couple that with the fact that CBS is *only* airing (outside of the first episode) this show on their streaming service you'd think they'd want people saying how good the show is so people sign up. The fact that they're not means its probably not good. I hope to be surprised but at this point expectations are low.
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Sep 16, 2017 06:30
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Lol in the first AMA I asked an Orville question that got answered and got a bunch of people accusing me of being a studio plant Look for this guy playing a ficus crewman in the next episode.
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Sep 16, 2017 07:26
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Hannibal in Space, sign me the gently caress up Nobody at CBS saw a Hannibal episode before so when the first Discovery episode was cosmic penises ejaculating in slow-motion to violins they started panicking.
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Sep 16, 2017 11:54
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Bruceski posted:Look for this guy playing a ficus crewman in the next episode. 
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Sep 16, 2017 11:56
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Just saw a preview clip of the next episode where Grayson replicates a cannabis edible "just in case". This truly is a utopian future
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Sep 16, 2017 13:05
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The Lord Bude posted:I kinda wish the ex wife was the captain, and McFarlane was the first officer. She has more gravitas; whereas McFarlane feels Riker-y. This would rule, btw.
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Sep 16, 2017 18:59
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Discovery hasn't aired yet And yet we still know the answer.
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Sep 16, 2017 23:44
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So they've released a couple of scenes from the next ep. One is some so-so Seth riffing, and the other is this really good character moment for Alara and Bortus. I like it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh5tmI1r-vM
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Sep 17, 2017 00:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-Toz6zw48 Holy gently caress Jeffery Tambor is playing Mercer's dad
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Sep 17, 2017 02:26
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The_Doctor posted:So they've released a couple of scenes from the next ep. One is some so-so Seth riffing, and the other is this really good character moment for Alara and Bortus. I like it! I... wow that was legit great!
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Sep 17, 2017 02:46
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CALLING IT: The next episode will include a reference to The Menagerie/The Cage.
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Sep 17, 2017 03:12
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The_Doctor posted:So they've released a couple of scenes from the next ep. One is some so-so Seth riffing, and the other is this really good character moment for Alara and Bortus. I like it! Alara is shaping up to be my favorite character
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Sep 17, 2017 03:20
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The_Doctor posted:So they've released a couple of scenes from the next ep. One is some so-so Seth riffing, and the other is this really good character moment for Alara and Bortus. I like it! Yeah this is the funny stuff on the show. The jokes are crap, but playing out the ridiculous scenarios Star Trek regularly puts its characters into, for laughs, is good and funny. Remember the scene in Galaxy Quest with the awful food? I can't remember any of the jokes in that scene but the horrible alien food and the genuine solicitude of the hosts were funny and memorable.
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Sep 17, 2017 04:49
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Finally watched the premiere and liked it. I'm not really following social media about it but apparently critics hate it. My wife hates it, because "it's dumb." But she loves Doctor Who and I don't see this as any dumber than that? My biggest criticism would be it's so similar to Star Trek that it's begging the comparison too much but otherwise it's just a lighthearted space show.
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Sep 17, 2017 05:31
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Gynovore posted:CALLING IT: The next episode will include a reference to The Menagerie/The Cage. "What are 'Things That Will Never Be Said About Discovery' Alex?"  "Correct!"
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Sep 17, 2017 06:33
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The pilot didn't exactly blow me away (I feel like if it was made in the 90's/early 2000's, it would have been lost in the shuffle of similar light, usually syndicated genre fare), but drat if it didn't just feel good to watch a new episode of something with this sort of tone again. After all the horrible politics and dark serialized television that seem to dominate my media landscape (and the promise that new Star Trek will be no escape from it all), it was just a wave a relief to watch a self-contained story where earnest heroes banter and save the day in brightly-lit beige space corridors again.
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Sep 17, 2017 06:43
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I wonder if the Seth factor was removed how much people would hate it. I liked it enough, i hate TV Trek of any generation
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Sep 17, 2017 06:46
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Rocksicles posted:I wonder if the Seth factor was removed how much people would hate it. I'm here for the Trek not for the Seth so it might even improve it in my mind
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Sep 17, 2017 06:47
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cheetah7071 posted:I'm here for the Trek not for the Seth so it might even improve it in my mind I kept reading it described as "funny Trek" but that sets the wrong expectation IMO. It's more "whimsical, down to earth, Trek," because it's not really a LOL comedy.
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Sep 17, 2017 07:03
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Rocksicles posted:I wonder if the Seth factor was removed how much people would hate it. On one hand, yeah, having someone else write the jokes and play the main character would probably improve the show, but on the other hand, the Seth factor is everything in the show. This show is an incredible act of self-indulgence on part of Seth Macfarlane. Not even just the casting of him as the main character, everything from the characters to the art design to the costumes to the crew were designed to live out Seth's fantasy of making new episodes of one of his favorite shows. I don't think anyone else has enough pull with a major network to get "let's make Star Trek TNG in 2017" greenlit.
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Sep 17, 2017 07:06
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Sounds like a textbook case of "oval office if you do and oval office if you don't"
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Sep 17, 2017 08:38
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First ep was really enjoyable. Think people were automatically predisposed to hating it and nothing was going to change their mind.
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Sep 17, 2017 11:32
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If Seth uses his powers to make a popular-enough-to-run-and-run NotTrek franchise, then at the end of season 2 or whatever has his own character die then he will always and forever be A Good Boy.
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Sep 17, 2017 12:18
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