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It's a promotion that car dealerships put on, instead of just saying "save 10%" or "save $3000" it's just "save money with employee pricing". (Might just be a USA thing?) The idea is that employees of the car dealership get a discount on buying cars there, and for this week only so can you!!! I don't know anything about it but the entire American car retail system is ridiculous. This American Life did an episode about all the wacky incentives that dealerships try and exploit, I learned a few things listening to it.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:It's a promotion that car dealerships put on, instead of just saying "save 10%" or "save $3000" it's just "save money with employee pricing". (Might just be a USA thing?) The idea is that employees of the car dealership get a discount on buying cars there, and for this week only so can you!!! One I got schooled up on when I was car buying is the difference between a factory/manufacturers incentive vs a dealer incentive. To put it simply don't factor in the manufacturer's incentive and focus on what the dealer is willing to take off the price of the car first. Instead of 2 grand I got 3 grand off the price of my car which was interestingly enough a grand below what True Price said was a fair price people were paying for the car. EDIT: Im sure they still got plenty off me regardless.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:I don't know anything about it but the entire American car retail system is ridiculous. This American Life did an episode about all the wacky incentives that dealerships try and exploit, I learned a few things listening to it. This is a great link, drat. I never thought to factor in when I went to buy a car and how it plays a part in how taken advantage of you were. I'm blown away that dealers actually take a lose on cars. Also, car selling sounds like it's scammers scamming scammers scamming scammers, all while being scammed by the manufacturers.
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I'm listening to TAL's "I Am Not A Pirate" episode and drat Somalian pirates are terrible at scamming. Why do they demand exorbitant, insane amounts instead of reasonable ransoms that people will quietly pay instead of going to the government and waiting months, if not years, to get them back?
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Professor Shark posted:I'm listening to TAL's "I Am Not A Pirate" episode and drat Somalian pirates are terrible at scamming. Why do they demand exorbitant, insane amounts instead of reasonable ransoms that people will quietly pay instead of going to the government and waiting months, if not years, to get them back? If I had to guess, I'd say they're looking for that one big hit and get out. As opposed to having to make it a career of small paydays.
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If you're living in Somalia you could probably live like a king for the rest of your days off a $10k ransom, but people are greedy.
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Collateral Damage posted:If you're living in Somalia you could probably live like a king for the rest of your days off a $10k ransom, but people are greedy. It doesn't quite work like that. If you're some dude with $10k in Somalia you're kind of hosed. That isn't enough to set yourself up as a warlord but enough that people with access to militias, guns, etc are going to want your poo poo. The end goal for these people isn't to live like a king in Somalia, it's to get enough money that they can GTFO of Somalia and live a decent lifestyle somewhere else. Give every person on your 25 man pirate crew $1 million and all of a sudden it becomes possible to for everyone to get set up somewhere else. This is also why they need that single big cash out. If you take a $500k ransom for that ship you just jacked it isn't enough to pay out your crew, but it's drat sure enough that Al-Shabaab or someone else is going to come calling. Taking a bunch of smaller amounts in multiple hijackings to add up to that large sum isn't really an option. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:It doesn't quite work like that. If you're some dude with $10k in Somalia you're kind of hosed. That isn't enough to set yourself up as a warlord but enough that people with access to militias, guns, etc are going to want your poo poo. The end goal for these people isn't to live like a king in Somalia, it's to get enough money that they can GTFO of Somalia and live a decent lifestyle somewhere else. Give every person on your 25 man pirate crew $1 million and all of a sudden it becomes possible to for everyone to get set up somewhere else.
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HEY GAIL posted:these guys and my guys would have some interesting loving conversations Seriously, I keep finding out the weirdest connections between 30YW mercs and the modern world. Maybe some
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Don Gato posted:Seriously, I keep finding out the weirdest connections between 30YW mercs and the modern world. Maybe some
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Lutha Mahtin posted:It's a promotion that car dealerships put on, instead of just saying "save 10%" or "save $3000" it's just "save money with employee pricing". (Might just be a USA thing?) The idea is that employees of the car dealership get a discount on buying cars there, and for this week only so can you!!! Pretty hosed up that legally you're mandated to deal with this scammy system if you want to buy a new vehicle.
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Professor Shark posted:This is a great link, drat. I never thought to factor in when I went to buy a car and how it plays a part in how taken advantage of you were. I'm blown away that dealers actually take a lose on cars. So wait, when do I want to buy a car? Look for the worst salesman near the end of the month?
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Platystemon posted:So wait, when do I want to buy a car? Walk in at the end of the month, find the guy who looks most stressed out, give him an insane lowball offer and a throwaway email address, and walk away.
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Tunicate posted:Walk in at the end of the month, find the guy who looks most stressed out, give him an insane lowball offer and a throwaway email address, and walk away. Hmm, could work. Maybe use a burner phone instead so you can pointedly ignore a call and hear him sweat on voicemail.
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HEY GAIL posted:..., the belief that war is immoral and should be illegal), ... Where exactly is this the standard belief?
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Platystemon posted:So wait, when do I want to buy a car? My dad’s strategy was to bundle up, walk in on the coldest day of the winter, and keep walking around the lot with the salesman until he was so cold that he’d agree to anything just to get back indoors.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Where exactly is this the standard belief? Probably an implied *unjust there. But to yank war into topicality: https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Where exactly is this the standard belief?
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RE: TV licensing in the UK You only need to have a licence if you want to watch broadcast TV or the BBC's catch up service (Iplayer). You don't need one to own a TV. So, if you don't watch TV (or Iplayer) you need to fill out a little form on the website and they leave you alone forever. Or at least until you move, because the whole TV detector van thing is bullshit; they have a list of properties in the UK, and they have a list of addresses that have TV licences. Then there's a list of people that filled out the form on the website. Doesn't take a genius to figure out which ones you need to send letters to, and if they ignore those letters then send someone round. There are at least three letters that tell you to go to the website or use the pre-paid envelope and provided form to apply for exemption. Basically people whining about being harassed over the TV licence are either too loving lazy to fill out a very short form, or they have a financial interest in getting rid of the BBC, so they come up with all sorts of elaborate conspiracy theories about why the BBC are evil and out to send old ladies to prison or whatever. Trouble is, a lot of the UK is dumb enough to fall for this poo poo. edit: this isn't to say that you should let Capita's goons into your house. Absolutely don't do that. It's hosed up that the TV licensing thing resorts to that, but seriously: spend like five minutes filling out the form and they won't bother you. It's been like fifteen years and four different addresses and I've never once had a letter, let alone a visit, because I fill out the drat form when I move in. Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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Quote-Unquote posted:RE: TV licensing in the UK I guess the only part of this that really puzzles me is why they didn't just make it a tax-funded thing, even the US funded PBS for a while. It still technically does, though it's a tiny fraction of its budget. People whinging about 'well I don't watch BBC' are welcome to otherwise shove it up their rear end along with 'i don't have kids in school' and 'why should i pay for roads i won't drive on'.
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What's crazy is that the BBC is awesome. In Canada we just tax everyone to fund the CBC, which is a pale comparison. CBC Radio is pretty great, at least.
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Yeah the relatively peaceful post ww2 conditions enjoyed in the power blocs were totally because of strong institutions of international law and not the result of stability enforced by threat of global atomic holocaust. Plus that period definitely wasn't ripe with nonstop postcolonial genocide everywhere in the southern hemisphere. Teh Grauniad is just adorable. E: legit thought this was the GiP Current Events thread please let this derail die shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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What the crap are you talking about
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occamsnailfile posted:I guess the only part of this that really puzzles me is why they didn't just make it a tax-funded thing, even the US funded PBS for a while. It still technically does, though it's a tiny fraction of its budget. People whinging about 'well I don't watch BBC' are welcome to otherwise shove it up their rear end along with 'i don't have kids in school' and 'why should i pay for roads i won't drive on'. It's been covered in this thread before, but it's mainly to prevent threatening to reduce the BBC's budget by self-interested political parties in power.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Just accept it and feed the bureaucracy! FEED IT If this post had a mention of tea and cricket and were a touch less aggressive, it would be one of the most English things I've read on SA.
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U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20535-0001 INTERPOL is the world’s largest international police organization, with 190 Member countries. Our role is to enable police around the world to work together to make the world a safer place. Our high-tech infrastructure of technical and operational support helps meet the growing challenges of fighting crime in the 21st century. Email: https://www.interpolpolice56 Urgent Attention We have this morning discovered that you have been making foreign legal transactions with Western Unions, Money Grams, Diplomatic Agents and Banks with West African Countries (Benin, Nigeria, Ghana etc.). We went further with the investigations we found out that you don't have Money Laundering Clearance Certificate, which is a major Federal Offence. You have violated the World Federal Law, which constituted against smuggling of large amount of money and trafficking of drug e.t.c., without having Money Laundering Clearance Certificate before you commenced the transaction. You want to receive such huge amount of money from UPS DHL FEDEX WESTERN UNION AND MONEY GRAM HEAD Quarter's Benin Republic which is a foreign Delivery. Meanwhile we have stopped the Delivery, not only the ATM CARD was stopped but the total Transaction of the sum of ($2.7 million dollars) Furthermore, be advised that according to the World Wide Law Enforcement Agency together with the FBI rules and regulations, you are to obtain the document from the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) Benin Republic which is the origin of the fund in question. Also Note that you are to take care of the documentation to be issued to you right away, because due to the content of the document and how importance and secured the document is, you are to take care of the document by sending them the sum of $85.00 US Dollars only to the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission Benin Republic for issuing of the document right away and your Payment will be release to you. That is the only way the Economic and Financial Crime Commission Benin Republic will issue you the document, because they are going to issue you the Authentic and Original copy of the documents. Note that your rights are limited; anything you SAY or DO will be used as evidence against you in the court of Law. You have the full rights to remain silent and obey the Law. Don't think we don’t know you or your address. We will get you arrested if you fail to provide the document or pay for it to be obtained from Benin Republic. The Arrest Warrant can only be withdrawn once the document is obtained. There are three charges against you, which are: 1. Smuggling of a huge amount of money into your country without Money Laundering Clearance Certificate is a violation to Federal Law. 2. Smuggling of a huge amount of money into your country without a proper documentation is a violation 2003 Federal Constitution, otherwise, called illegal transaction. 3. it’s a Conspiracy, a Criminal Attempt and Disobedience to the Federal Law, which will eventually lead you to 5-year imprisonment. You Should Send The Money Direct To The Country Of Origin Of The Fund In Question through western union or money gram money transfer system: Country: Benin Republic State/City: Cotonou Text Q.: info Answer: Yes Amount;;;;;;$85 Receiver Name:EBELE OHIDE Sender name: and MTCN is needed; Once, you make the payment, attach and send to us the copy of the payment slip for verification before sending it to the Economic Financial Crime Commission (EFCC) Benin Republic. WARNING: Failure to pay for this documentation is a confirmation that you wanted to smuggle the funds into the country which is a federal offense and a gross violation of the Patriot Act and legal action will be taken immediately by arresting and detaining you and if found guilty, you will be jailed As terrorism, drug trafficking and money laundering is a serious problem in our community today. The UNITED STATE INTERPOL world’s largest international police organization will not stop at any length in tracing you down and prosecuting any criminal who indulge in this criminal act. Sign: General Shawn A. Bray, head of the Central Investigation Bureau UNITED STATE INTERPOL world’s largest international police organization FBI WEB SITE http://www.fbi.gov/Interpol site http://www.justice.gov/Supreme Court of United State International Trade Court
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And the footer of spam from loanequitymagazine.com The only course is to try by all means, direct that. dogs by marrying their mistresses; the fine old-blooded idiocy of young Take the key, I say. absorbed Phileas Fogg until a quarter before four, whilst the Standard, I took a breathing space, set my teeth, and again The slave was back for another, the day after to-morrow, as brazen as alabaster. You were had been carefully oiled and cleaned. in phials, and quarrels with everybody, that end in your dying were as exciting a topic as the Reform Bill or the imminent horrors of Sikes and the Jew were talking, but they paused to listen. water-drinking kind. carriage, had had a chill in it. All the rest is to show what sort of intense disgust about his mouth. length combined, and came upon me, armed with sticks, stones, and heavy I never see such an out-and-out young wagabond, your worship,' Bulstrode He tottered across the lawn; circles of Middlemarchers who made no part of her life. hours together; but nothing was to be descried from it but a confused IN WHICH A SLIGHT GLIMPSE IS HAD OF SAN FRANCISCO melodrama which he had already seen several times; attracted, not by speaking nor spoken to, by any one who passed. She seized Mr. Again papa was silent. He left the letter at the office, ordering the messenger to tempest of snow, as if to pierce the mist which narrowed the horizon shut. Casaubon's uneasiness. disagreeable imputations--perhaps even in her mind, which others might "Ah! Come now, my friend--you will help? The calm of evening was upon the world as I emerged from the great to the Grange to-day as if nothing new had happened. father, or what was his mother's settlement, name, or condition. accountable beings. assure you it was rather comic: Fielding would have made something of associated with the work. Countrymen, butchers, drovers, hawkers, boys, thieves, idlers, and a bedroom-door, 'let us hear what you think of him. You refer to the possible hindrances from want of health? naked--no shoes, no stockings, no jacket, no trousers, nothing on but a Casaubon had been a dragon who had carried her off to his the entire width of the United States. would bless them in basket and store! one knew whence came his riches, and was mysterious and imperable in Why not to China? Hawley. anything the matter? Bowyer, I suppose--just as moaning wind. appearances of the trampling of men in hurried flight. We never undertook to do any thing, of any importance, things," he added, looking at Lydgate, "would be to me such relaxation apply to the regulation mode of cutting the hair: which he held to be volume.
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peanut posted:U.S. Department of Justice Oh no, not the world wide law enforcement agency!
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Dropping out of college and getting my Money Laundering Clearance Certificate was the smartest decision I ever made!
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is the whole point of that to make it sound "dangerous". hey buddy it's legal to get shitloads of money, all you need is an american money laundering license. but if you don't get one the international trade court (is this even a real thing?) will haul you to PRISON!!
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Do these people not have access to native English speakers? Hell, for $100 paid in advance I would clean that up and make it at least read correctly. The first paragraph sounded good, but it reads like someone was having a stroke or getting hit on the head repeatedly as it went on. The English just gets less and less comprehensible as it goes on.
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MANime in the sheets posted:Do these people not have access to native English speakers? Hell, for $100 paid in advance I would clean that up and make it at least read correctly. The first paragraph sounded good, but it reads like someone was having a stroke or getting hit on the head repeatedly as it went on. The English just gets less and less comprehensible as it goes on. The whole bad grammar and slightly off phrases and spelling are a gatekeeper as well. It's very effective at weeding out all but the people most likely to fall for these. To most people, it's a hilariously bad attempt to scam money so it gets deleted without further thought. A more well-crafted entreaty would probably garner more scrutiny and investigation from skeptics with the aim of loving with their revenue stream. The way it currently is, only the credulous follow up.
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Send ;;;;;$85 to my account and I will proofread in 24 hours!!!!!
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I'm gonna start writing all of my RFPs to sound like a weird scam email.
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Proteus Jones posted:The whole bad grammar and slightly off phrases and spelling are a gatekeeper as well. It's very effective at weeding out all but the people most likely to fall for these. That one was so badly composed, though. Like maybe a patient but low-functioning schizophrenic could fall for it, but there's enough word salad that a regular dumb person or gullible auntie might not parse it.
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I gotta wonder if the only people that fall for the "CHILD PORN DETECTED! Pay $1,000 in Apple Gift Cards or be sentence to one billion years jail time in pound-me-in-the-rear end prison." actually have child pornography on their computer.
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I’m the hard line breaks.
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The remote virus removal/help desk company I used to work for got a call for one of those scams but with the added benefit of the malware putting actual child porn on the computer. We didn't work on it because we didn't need that poo poo in our internal logs.
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goatsestretchgoals posted:The remote virus removal/help desk company I used to work for got a call for one of those scams but with the added benefit of the malware putting actual child porn on the computer. We didn't work on it because we didn't need that poo poo in our internal logs. Yup, this happened once to me in Geek Squad. It was on the lock screen of this dudes laptop
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Slag it on site, buy new hardware, and restore from backup.
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