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xergm posted:This really isn't that crazy if you regularly ride a motorcycle, though. You just got to remember to check the trip odometer and reset it every fill-up. I'm not up on the intricacies of (gravity vs pump feed) vs (carburetion vs fuel injection) on bikes, but you can still buy street legal bikes new out of the shop that a. have carbs, b. have no gas gauge, and c. require you to flip the fuel feed petcock from normal to reserve when you start running out of gas. I think the reserve line just takes from a lower point in the tank. Granted these bikes are typically dinosaur dualsports like the KLR or the DRZ. I just bought a carbed bike from 99 and it's got a fuel gauge... and the petcock. Haven't figured out yet if the gauge is mechanical or electrical, but it does come up by a good 1/4" of a tank once I take it off the kickstand.
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I've never owned a bike with a fuel gauge, and I've been through about ten of them -- all newer than 2001 and all but one FI. It's funny how consistent engines are at returning a given range per tank.
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I havent had a working fuel gauge in years because i hate opening up fuel tanks and the literal headache it gives me. I haven't even come close to running out of gas whereas with a gauge ive pushed my luck and been burnt. I try and shoot for filling up at half a tank but i dont even track mileage. I kinda feel like you are more likely to run out of fuel with a gauge because you push your luck more but maybe thats just me lol.
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InitialDave posted:2) "Oh poo poo, this gearbox is too big, reduce the steering lock in one direction to clear it" Win some, lose some.
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I've had 4-5 bikes and only one didn't have a fuel gauge but I'm more into touring/sport touring BMWs. 
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Nocheez posted:The worst were the Blazers in the 90s that had the anti-slosh module that always either hosed up or came slightly unplugged. I fixed so many of those in a year of working on car electronics. We used to stock both those and ignitions because GM is a terrible, terrible company. gently caress you for reminding me and gently caress GM's fuel pumps and harnesses forever.
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TotalLossBrain posted:gently caress GM's fuel pumps and harnesses forever. Those goddamned "fuel pump modules".
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Nocheez posted:The worst were the Blazers in the 90s that had the anti-slosh module that always either hosed up or came slightly unplugged. I fixed so many of those in a year of working on car electronics. We used to stock both those and ignitions because GM is a terrible, terrible company. Never dealt with Blazers. Had a Park Avenue that would basically do what I described. Yanked out the sender (along with fuel pump, nice you didn't need to drop the tank) and I'm looking at this abomination with how the resistor arm is worn away and I remember it is GM.
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TotalLossBrain posted:gently caress you for reminding me and gently caress GM's fuel pumps and harnesses forever. And their upper manifold gaskets, and their ABS sensors...loving GM.
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The absolutely worst car I have ever owned was a 1997 S10 Blazer and I bought it used in 2004/5. Highlights included puking out the transmission a couple months after purchase, replacing the fuel pump three times, windshield wipers that stopped working in the rain, replacing the blinker stalk twice, and general electrical mayhem. It was the first and only car that ever tried to leave me stranded just by a non-working brake light (wired to a transmission interlock, so if the bulb is out you're hosed!). The fuel pump thing was maddening. OEM replacement pumps were big bucks, around $400-$500 even in the mid-2000's. The no-name replacements worked okay for a while. At one point I considered cutting an access hole below the rear seat to make future replacements easier. Fortunately I sold the fucker first, at which point the replacement "certified GM!" transmission started to deteriorate. I once ran into the PO while out shopping. He said he recognized the POS car and was laughing manically about electrical problems. It was precisely at this moment I knew I had hosed up. TotalLossBrain fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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Had a late 90's Ford Expedition towed in with only the ability to move in reverse, and even that was a dangerous thing to do. Why you ask? Well... Driver side rear lower control arm:  Passenger side rear lower control arm:  Aside from the obvious rust and corrosion, the one bitch about having to change these lower arms is that the bracket holding the front bolt on the driver's side arm is located directly next to the fuel tank, and the bolt head is always oriented on the tank side from the factory. Which means you have to either loosen and shift the fuel tank away from the frame rail enough for the bolt to clear, or bend and contort the brackets just enough to finagle the bolt past the tank. It's a little hard to see on the pic I posted above, but that should hopefully give some idea of what I'm referring to. I have no idea how they didn't destroy something in the drive-train when the diff rolled and pitched upwards until the u-joint jammed. Aside from some gouging and scuffing on the yoke and joint, the shaft still spins straight and amazingly had no vibrations on the test drive afterwards.  Oh, it also had this lovely exhaust setup: 
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How did they still have the money for new suspension arms and labour?
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SlapActionJackson posted:OTOH, I have an expedition that turns on the low fuel light with 5 gallons left in the tank. The owner's manual for my car states the light comes on with 3 gallons left, on a 13 gallon tank. Seems to be pretty accurate - when it comes on, it takes about 10-11 to fill it back up if I stop right then. Thought I've managed to get 12.93 in it once (just letting the pump run until it clicked off once)  - but the car died pulling into the gas station, and had been sputtering for the past mile.Colostomy Bag posted:Lol, for lovely fuel level senders look no further than GM. My god you turn a corner and it would go from full zero to full. My GM has a bit of a different oddity. It doesn't flail around when you go up hills or take turns (but I've seen a lot of GMs that did that). Instead.... Well first off, most of you guys know I do delivery for a living (on a busy day I'll hit 300 miles). I almost always shut the car off at every stop (partly to keep it from wandering away if someone wanders past, partly because my mileage tracking app ends the trip when it disconnects from the BT stereo). Sometimes it'll be showing, say, 1/4 tank when I shut it off. Start it back up and it's on empty and the low fuel warning comes on. Shut it back off, start it again, and it's back to 1/4 tank.  It's controlled by the ECU via GM LAN, so who knows what wizardry is going on there.If you try to put gas in it with the key on (even if the engine is off), the fuel gauge only goes up to about 1/4 of tank, even if you've just filled it all the way. Even if you start the engine (Key on engine off while filling, then start the engine), it does the same poo poo. Again.. turn it off and on and it's fine. Weird poo poo. DesperateDan posted:My mazda 626 would do at least 40 or 50 miles on empty with the warning lights. My a4, when the estimated range left is zero... it isnt loving around. Zero miles were indeed left. I've managed 90 miles with the low fuel warning on the Saturd. ... but it gets ~35 mpg on the highway if I don't drive like a dick. My old Civic randomly decided that 1/4 was as low as it would read one day with no warning. Never had an issue with it before then, low fuel light always worked fine up until the day I ran out of gas in it (with the gauge still sitting just a hair below 1/4).  A coworker drove his Jetta with a dead gauge for about 50k. He'd reset the trip odometer and fill up once he broke 250 miles. He only ran out once like that, and he was driving like a dick on that tank. Darchangel posted:Those goddamned "fuel pump modules". My fuel pump module turned into a gasoline sprinkler head, spraying against the bottom of the car.  Thank gently caress there was an "enhanced warranty" for exactly that, so I was just out of a car overnight (dropped it off after hours, picked it up at 9 or 10am the next day). They've since expanded it to cover the filler neck as well, but I haven't run into that issue (yet).
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The gauge on my avalanche would come on with around 5-6 gallons left in the tank and it would hit E with around 2 gallons left. Only ever ran it completely out of gas once after driving it 60 miles past when the light came on. Granted, that truck had a 31 gallon fuel tank that was probably a hair over 5ft long. Its not surprising given the size of that fucker that it had such a large reserve. Dropping that thing while it was only a quarter of the way full to replace a fuel pump (that turned out to not even be bad!) was an absolute bitch even with 2 people and a spare trolley jack. I can't imagine doing it with it full. Though having a 600+ mile range while driving on the freeway was definitely a nice bonus when I drove from Florida to Texas. Only stopped twice for gas and I was being conservative and filling up when I hit 1/4 of a tank indicated and that was still after around 450 miles. Probably could have done it with only one pitstop, but I didn't want to push my luck. The mazda on the other hands seems to not play around. When that light comes on I have 2 gallons left, and when it hits E, its empty. 17 gallon tank and when I let it brush that last mark on the fuel gauge, it takes all 17 gallons to refill it.
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The aftermarket long range fuel tank on my cruiser has a fairly odd shape, so for the first half of the tank (60L) the gauge doesnt move at all, then it behaves like a normal tank for the second half, tho you just gotta remember its actually half what it says. Still gives me 217L total capacity between the two tanks tho, so you gotta work pretty drat hard to run the big girl out of diesel. And you have to be wilfully ignorant to drive past every servo for 1600kms... My old hilux tho, cos of the shape of the long range 140L tank in that and the pick up being at one end, once you went below 1/4 of a tank if you drove down a steep hill and then powered off on the flat at the bottom it would cough and loose power till it reprimed the pump and injectors because all of the fuel ran to the wrong end of the tank!
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My neighbor's '04 Silverado has been through three of those loving fuel modules. Nothing for Round 1 in 2010, but... 2014:  2015:  Meanwhile, the '66 Pontiac is still chugging away on the factory fuel filter/sender can. Which irritates my neighbor no end. I replaced all of the dead gauge actuators in the dash, so he has a working gas gauge now.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:The gauge on my avalanche would come on with around 5-6 gallons left in the tank and it would hit E with around 2 gallons left. Only ever ran it completely out of gas once after driving it 60 miles past when the light came on. Granted, that truck had a 31 gallon fuel tank that was probably a hair over 5ft long. Its not surprising given the size of that fucker that it had such a large reserve. Dropping that thing while it was only a quarter of the way full to replace a fuel pump (that turned out to not even be bad!) was an absolute bitch even with 2 people and a spare trolley jack. I can't imagine doing it with it full. Though having a 600+ mile range while driving on the freeway was definitely a nice bonus when I drove from Florida to Texas. Only stopped twice for gas and I was being conservative and filling up when I hit 1/4 of a tank indicated and that was still after around 450 miles. Probably could have done it with only one pitstop, but I didn't want to push my luck. When I replaced the fuel pump in the goddamned GM module in my wife's 200 Astro, it was thankfully almost empty. But I forgot to put the zip tie on the little bit of hose from the pump to the module outlet, and had to drop the tank again with it over half full. Something like 10-15 gallons of fuel at about 6 lb./gal. in a big old awkward box under a vehicle. Yay. As I recall, I sucked out as much as I could with a siphon, but I only had about 7 or 8 gallons worth of gas cans to transfer it to.
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The worst part was that GM almost never put in an access panel. Imagine my delight when replacing a fuel pump in a 99 Camry and it took around 30 minutes from start to finish.
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TotalLossBrain posted:It was the first and only car that ever tried to leave me stranded just by a non-working brake light (wired to a transmission interlock, so if the bulb is out you're hosed!). WTF? They spent time and money making that happen?
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Guarantee sone autistic engineer was tired of seeing people drive around with dead bulbs and did it on purpose. Even if not, it's a fun idea.
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Linked for personal injury  https://i.imgur.com/Bskh2il.jpg InitialDave fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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InitialDave posted:AAHHHH! AAAAHHHHHHHHHH! For people curious of the spoiler, there's not a ton of blood nor are there any limbs pointed in wrong directions, but that is quite the power tool injury. You may want to link that instead, but I don't know the exact rules on that stuff.
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InitialDave posted:Under spoiler for personal injury Oh gently caress!
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is that a wire wheel?
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BraveUlysses posted:is that a wire wheel? Looks like a 4"-4.5" saw blade.
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A G-D saw blade? You're not a shipwright, bro
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Horrible mechanical failure - brakes failing at 150mph+, bike hit the wall at 130mph, rider >100mph, what is runoff? Awesome - Airfence https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=341378326314495&id=100013269905321 BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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Nocheez posted:The worst part was that GM almost never put in an access panel. Imagine my delight when replacing a fuel pump in a 99 Camry and it took around 30 minutes from start to finish. Yeah, I was amazed at my wife's '79 Celica when I met her. First Japanese car I'd worked on. Access plate right in the trunk. InitialDave posted:Under spoiler for personal injury Oh, Jesus gently caress get that away.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:You may want to link that instead, but I don't know the exact rules on that stuff.
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Nocheez posted:The worst part was that GM almost never put in an access panel. Imagine my delight when replacing a fuel pump in a 99 Camry and it took around 30 minutes from start to finish. Fuel pump accessibility has become something I care a lot about when buying a car after experiencing the in-tank no access design of the saab 9-3 (integrated filter too!) which leads to hilarious threads like this one where a dude cuts through the floor of his car with tin snips http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255104
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astropika posted:Fuel pump accessibility has become something I care a lot about when buying a car after experiencing the in-tank no access design of the saab 9-3 (integrated filter too!) which leads to hilarious threads like this one where a dude cuts through the floor of his car with tin snips http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255104 What the fuuuuuuck?
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BlackMK4 posted:What the fuuuuuuck? Well, dropping a fuel tank is apparently scaaaaaaaary, also an enormous pain without a lift. Disclaimer: I didn't want to drop my tank without a lift so I paid a dude to replace the fuel pump. Edit: they're not the only person either, here's another thread of the same thing, although vaguely more competent http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119759 astropika fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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InitialDave posted:Well, that's why I put it under a spoiler. It's not particularly graphic, but it is a bit NOPE. Yeah, like I said, I'm not Mr. Forum Rules but I know regular porny nsfw stuff is supposed to be linked. I don't know why. Either way, it got an audible "AGH" out of me. Definitely a horrible operator failure.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Yeah, like I said, I'm not Mr. Forum Rules but I know regular porny nsfw stuff is supposed to be linked. I don't know why. Either way, it got an audible "AGH" out of me. Definitely a horrible operator failure. It's because spoilered images still load. If it's something people might get in trouble for if it simply loads (like a work computer), it should be linked. NMS/NWS images should be linked anyway, because if you just mouse over the spoiler accidentally you'll still see it. Link it so people have to choose to see it.
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Fair enough, I'll change it to a link, but I've seen more blood at work.
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astropika posted:Fuel pump accessibility has become something I care a lot about when buying a car after experiencing the in-tank no access design of the saab 9-3 (integrated filter too!) which leads to hilarious threads like this one where a dude cuts through the floor of his car with tin snips http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255104 the old Volvo XCs would go this route too as you'd literally have to take the back 2/3 of the wagon apart to drop the tank. 80s camaros are another. The shittiest i've played ball with was a 3/4 ton burb with a huge skidplate and a fully laden tank. Protip for hole cuttin: go to the yards and cut out a larger chunk than you'd need, then go home and play surgery with your car, then lay the patch over it with your favorite choice of fasteners or seamsealer.
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cursedshitbox posted:80s camaros are another. Continued all the way through the fourth gen as well, which makes sense since the fourthgen was nowhere near a clean-sheet design. Official repair method is to drop the tank, which means dropping the rear axle too. Suffice it to say that home-cut access holes are very common. Edit: Holy gently caress it would not be hard to do a better job than that tin snip butcher, though.
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cursedshitbox posted:the old Volvo XCs would go this route too as you'd literally have to take the back 2/3 of the wagon apart to drop the tank. For a short period there were a bunch of rich people dumping otherwise quite nice Saab 9-3s for like four hundo because they didn't want to cut through the floor to get at the fuel pump.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:For a short period there were a bunch of rich people dumping otherwise quite nice Saab 9-3s for like four hundo because they didn't want to cut through the floor to get at the fuel pump. 9-3's are still ridiculously cheap here. I don't hate the body style, and I want a convertible that isn't a Cavalier for under $1500... 2+2=Saab?
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