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games are good. things that make you play games are good. games... are good.
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gamesgamesGamesGAmesGAMesGAMESGEAMSGAMSEGAMESE!!! edit: sorry i had to restart my console, you know the feeling ritgh?
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Sep 17, 2017 20:00
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BigSexyWitGlasses posted:Maybe they're holding off on VC due to the millions and millions NES/SNES Classics on their way to a store near you this holiday season? They'd just sell 2 copies to fans then though. The only excuse is they have no idea what their online will be and they are holding them back until its decided how the retro games will fit into the sub service
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Sep 17, 2017 20:26
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It's weird because Nintendo is usually quite ready to charge your full price for a virtual console game again, for the 4th time in a row now it'd be.
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Sep 17, 2017 20:53
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fishmech posted:It's weird because Nintendo is usually quite ready to charge your full price for a virtual console game again, for the 4th time in a row now it'd be. There's been a lot of pushback to the idea of having to pay yet again for VC games on Switch, even though Nintendo never suggested they were going to do it (but have a limited infrastructure on their backend to validate prior ownership in several cases). The waters are also murky since hero-of-consumer-rights Microsoft is letting people pay previous-gen titles for free if they own them in any form.
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Sep 17, 2017 20:58
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univbee posted:There's been a lot of pushback to the idea of having to pay yet again for VC games on Switch, even though Nintendo never suggested they were going to do it (but have a limited infrastructure on their backend to validate prior ownership in several cases). The waters are also murky since hero-of-consumer-rights Microsoft is letting people pay previous-gen titles for free if they own them in any form. There's a really weird subset of people who think it is ok to charge again for a license someone already owns. You bring up the fact that digitally owning a 360 game automatically gives you access to it on xbone if it is BC, and for some reason they are worried about Nintendo's profits and say it isn't fair for Nintendo to give people access to games they already bought.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:03
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I mean the wildest bit about what Microsoft is doing is that it seems like Xbox 360 Live service is never going to die. By this point since the launch of the 360, they'd already announced they'd be shutting down original Xbox Live and then it was actually dead the next year. Now it's like, they're just going to keep it going forever for backwards-compatible games to stay working, and also therefore the 360 live marketplace staying up back on 360 to support it. The only thing that's really shutting down is the XBLIG service - which by the way you still have two weeks remaining to buy any XBLIGs you didn't already own, after the new uploads were halted in October 2016! And you'll still be able to redownload your purchases.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:03
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I have a suspicion they can't legally "shut it down" (at least not fully) due to people's digital libraries, and consumer laws in many countries, and implementing the backwards compatibility was a practical way to still get mileage from it (and generate customer goodwill in doing so). I think PSNow's existence can largely be attributed to this, too.Cojawfee posted:There's a really weird subset of people who think it is ok to charge again for a license someone already owns. You bring up the fact that digitally owning a 360 game automatically gives you access to it on xbone if it is BC, and for some reason they are worried about Nintendo's profits and say it isn't fair for Nintendo to give people access to games they already bought. Reminds me of how Apple managed to twist most of the big movie studios' arms into giving everyone free 4K upgrades (i.e. now you just own "the movie" and get it in whatever the current highest definition is), when before resolution upgrades were "pay us another $25+ for a new copy. Upgrade pricing? How about go gently caress yourself?" univbee fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 21:06
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univbee posted:I have a suspicion they can't legally "shut it down" (at least not fully) due to people's digital libraries, and consumer laws in many countries, and implementing the backwards compatibility was a practical way to still get mileage from it (and generate customer goodwill in doing so). I think PSNow's existence can largely be attributed to this, too. Nah. They shut down the original Xbox Live on the original Xbox despite people having digital libraries (a few dozen DLC and then like a dozen downloadable Arcade titles) and they did so in 2010 when any such consumer protection laws would have been in place. The purchases and redownloads got cut off with the multiplayer going down.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:18
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fishmech posted:I mean the wildest bit about what Microsoft is doing is that it seems like Xbox 360 Live service is never going to die. By this point since the launch of the 360, they'd already announced they'd be shutting down original Xbox Live and then it was actually dead the next year. Now it's like, they're just going to keep it going forever for backwards-compatible games to stay working, and also therefore the 360 live marketplace staying up back on 360 to support it. Did XBLIG produce a single good game? I remember it being hilarious for the demos but that was about it.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:22
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fishmech posted:Nah. They shut down the original Xbox Live on the original Xbox despite people having digital libraries (a few dozen DLC and then like a dozen downloadable Arcade titles) and they did so in 2010 when any such consumer protection laws would have been in place. The purchases and redownloads got cut off with the multiplayer going down. Yeah but I think there's a quantity issue, plenty of people have 360 digital libraries they paid hundreds or even several thousands into, which I think reaches a point where there'd be a decent enough number of impacted individuals to try and class action Microsoft.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:25
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veni veni veni posted:Did XBLIG produce a single good game? I remember it being hilarious for the demos but that was about it. super amazing wagon adventure
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Sep 17, 2017 21:26
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veni veni veni posted:Did XBLIG produce a single good game? I remember it being hilarious for the demos but that was about it. One Finger Death Punch, the whole "Quiet, Please!" series of short little adventure games, the Solar series, the original versions of DLC Quest, Red Tie Miner series, Diehard Dungeon, Escape Goat, Gateways, Super Amazing Wagon Adventure, Vidiot Game, a bunch of others. Of course at this point like 90% of these are either straight up on Steam, or have sequels on it. Some of it were always planned to be on Steam but since they came out back when Steam wouldn't shovel 500 lovely clone games on a day, you could wait like a year plus to actualyl get approved, so they'd release on 360 Indie Games first.
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Sep 17, 2017 21:27
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Syrinxx posted:Can we just have Jade Empire with achievements thx in advance OG Xbox games aren't getting achievements (stated by Mike Ybarra, I don't want to find the tweet but TRUST ME)
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Sep 18, 2017 01:17
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Instant Sunrise posted:It's coming "later this year." No JSRF, no buy
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Sep 18, 2017 06:06
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I'm sure it's aged terribly but I'd probably buy the first Splinter Cell again. I was absolutely obsessed with that game when it came out. IIRC it sort of outdid Metal Gear by a mile in the gameplay dept. although it didn't have a fraction of the personality.
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Sep 18, 2017 06:36
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veni veni veni posted:I'm sure it's aged terribly but I'd probably buy the first Splinter Cell again. I was absolutely obsessed with that game when it came out. IIRC it sort of outdid Metal Gear by a mile in the gameplay dept. although it didn't have a fraction of the personality. I revisited that one recently on the PC. It is clunky as HELL. If you're going to play an XBox Splinter Cell, go with Chaos Theory Brought To You By Axe BodySpray
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Sep 18, 2017 18:01
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I hope they re-release the first SC and it's so authentically emulated that it works as a softmod bootloader.
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Sep 18, 2017 18:05
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univbee posted:I hope they re-release the first SC and it's so authentically emulated that it works as a softmod bootloader. I'm a 007 Everything or Nothing man myself
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Sep 18, 2017 18:59
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Monster Hunter World is going to be Xbox One X enchanced.TheScott2K posted:I'm a 007 Everything or Nothing man myself MechAssault, man.
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Sep 19, 2017 21:40
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[quote="“Adaptabullshit”" post="“476560191”"] MechAssault, man. [/quote] Mechassault 2. I don’t need a loving Ragnarok to win. 
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Sep 19, 2017 22:13
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Metal Wolf Chaos or nothing. Mech America Great Again Tsietisin fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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Sep 20, 2017 15:50
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Welp, according to Digital Foundry, Quantum Break on the Xbox One X is 1440p upscaled, and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:53
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univbee posted:Welp, according to Digital Foundry, Quantum Break on the Xbox One X is 1440p upscaled, and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps. 500 American Dollars
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Sep 20, 2017 16:05
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TheScott2K posted:500 American Dollars 1440p is the 720p of 4K. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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Sep 20, 2017 16:07
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univbee posted:Welp, according to Digital Foundry, Quantum Break on the Xbox One X is 1440p upscaled, and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps. 
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Sep 20, 2017 16:12
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Non-scorpio xboxoxes are now available for preorder. They're nicer looking than the Scorpio edition imo.
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Sep 20, 2017 18:48
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univbee posted:Welp, according to Digital Foundry, Quantum Break on the Xbox One X is 1440p upscaled, and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps. Honestly, who was clamoring for that remaster? univbee posted:...and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps. 
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Sep 20, 2017 20:02
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univbee posted:Welp, according to Digital Foundry, Quantum Break on the Xbox One X is 1440p upscaled, and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps. If this is the only "negative" news you can find about the Xbox One X to earn that Sony paycheque I feel sorry for you man. Hey, at least it's getting some love which is more than I can say for Bloodborne, etc.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 20, 2017 22:33
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I too personally prefer mediocre gameplay with an unstable framerate in 4K vs fun gameplay with a stable framerate in 1080p
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Sep 20, 2017 22:41
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hanyolo posted:If this is the only "negative" news you can find about the Xbox One X to earn that Sony paycheque I feel sorry for you man. Hey, at least it's getting some love which is more than I can say for Bloodborne, etc. You should rehost your picture, but anyway, the bad Quantum Break performance is pretty shameful considering how well it actually ran on the original Bone, where it's solid 30 FPS almost 100% of the time. Obviously it's not the final version so things could change, but still. The Digital Foundry comparison video in question is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXklO1QEBek
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Sep 20, 2017 22:43
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univbee posted:Welp, according to Digital Foundry, Quantum Break on the Xbox One X is 1440p upscaled, and targeting but currently not consistently hitting 30fps. They said the same thing about Tomb Raider at 4k.
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Sep 20, 2017 22:44
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It's very important that you realize certain things are suboptimal, and admit you are wrong for liking the incorrect video game. Only then will we allow you to die.
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Sep 20, 2017 23:41
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The Most Powerful Console
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Sep 21, 2017 01:30
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trash person posted:I too personally prefer mediocre gameplay with an unstable framerate in 4K vs fun gameplay with a stable framerate in 1080p Sure didnt have stable framerate at 1080 on the original console lol
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Sep 21, 2017 01:34
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hanyolo posted:Hey, at least it's getting some love which is more than I can say for Bloodborne, etc.   
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Sep 21, 2017 01:39
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Univbees credibility is unassailable. Good day sir!
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Sep 21, 2017 02:10
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I didn't even realize scorpio edition was a separate thing. Well, glad that's what my preorder is.
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Sep 21, 2017 05:12
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What is the scorpio edition? It appears that one is green tinted or something?
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Cojawfee posted:What is the scorpio edition? It appears that one is green tinted or something? I have no idea but my Amazon order says scorpio edition. I think I get a free game?
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