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betterinsodapop posted:This, but make room in the budget for replacement caps. wasd caps aren't great but they'll last a year or so of heavy use. i mean you don't *need* to get something else right out the gate although it's obviously preferred if you're ok with the extra expenditure. the caps are the only thing that really bother me, i wish you could pick codes up without caps like wasd boards. Constellation I posted:The Maxkey Miami Nights came in. The end of the era of SHIF T and BACK SPACE. ooh i never saw that round go by otherwise i would've hit that hard very nice setup, is that the anne pro you posted earlier? surebet fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Massdrop may be going through some awkwardness but I seem to have dodged any issues with the Ergodox drop:  Need to figure out a good layout for coding now; default is a bit awkward.
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very nice! i really hope that wasn't the last round for this, a setup like yours (maybe with the original granites instead) was always on my to-do list
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surebet posted:wasd caps aren't great but they'll last a year or so of heavy use. i mean you don't *need* to get something else right out the gate although it's obviously preferred if you're ok with the extra expenditure. I wish, unfortunately the Anne Pro has non-standard screw holes so it won't fit most aftermarket 60% cases out there. This one is a custom with a DZ60 PCB + wood case from KBDfans with Kailh Pro Purple switches.
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Johnny Law posted:Massdrop may be going through some awkwardness but I seem to have dodged any issues with the Ergodox drop: You need to NSFW that poo poo man! I need an ergodox in my life
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Constellation I posted:I wish, unfortunately the Anne Pro has non-standard screw holes so it won't fit most aftermarket 60% cases out there. hmm, since i'd go with clears i'd source elsewhere, $35 for a pcb with the ic soldering done is well within the realm of reason, especially since i can't do fine pitch to save my life
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also if maxkey miami nights was pretty nice (and something i'd bring at the office), they released their own sa version of good ol' hella loud   https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/maxkey/products/maxkey-miami-sa-keycaps tbh i'm good with spending $30 on a gimmick set of tai hao caps, not sure i'd pull the trigger on this one, but i suspect the ａｅｓｔｈｅｔｉｃｓ will suit the needs of some
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Chikimiki posted:Hey keyboard thread! I'm looking for a good basic keyboard with function- and media keys, nothing too blingy or expensive. I'd also like it to be quiet. Main use surfing and some gaming. Any recommendations for those criteria? I'm currently using a cheap dell keyboard, but I really liked my old thinkpad's tiping experience. Apple's full keyboard seemed good enough , but function and media keys are not distinct, plus it's expensive. Logitech G213 was another candidate, but I hate the gamer bling, and I'm afraid of the noise of those mechanical keys surebet posted:gonna go in the other budget direction  Why do people always do this poo poo in the hardware threads? Not everybody is looking for the highest end poo poo, and just linking the keyboards you love while ignoring their requested budget info is not helpful.Chikmiki If you do a lot of gaming I'd personally recommend spending a bit more and investing in mechanical switches, there are ones that are quieter. If it really is just occasional gaming and mainly surfing the web, and you care more about having distinct media keys than the switches, the corsair K55 would probably be a good fit for you (Full media keys above the numpad, you can turn off the RGB, the macro keys on the left could be useful for things outside of gaming, or just ignored, not overly gamer-blingy outside that, ): https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Gaming-K55-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01M4LIKLI/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1506001149&sr=8-14&keywords=corsair+k70 You could also look at microsoft's ergonomic keyboard which is about the same price, and has media keys, plus is ergonomic: https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Natural-Ergonomic-Keyboard-4000/dp/B000A6PPOK I use one at work and it's perfectly fine, but it is a little funky to get used to coming from the keyboards you listed. If that's higher than you're looking to pay, you'll probably just have to bite the bullet and deal with some tacky poo poo, that's kind of the tradeoff at the real low price point. Otherwise, if you are interested in mechanical switches at all, the first one Eric the Mauve linked is probably a solid choice, as it still has distinct volume buttons over the numpad, and isn't too pricey. Not a lot of mechanical keyboards with media keys under the $70 mark. You might be able to find some off-brand one that has them for less with some digging on amazon/google, but it could take a while, as it's a pretty specific niche, and most mechanical keyboards focus on maximizing the experience with the standard keys. E: Just realized; If I misunderstood and you are fine with keys that are both function AND media, rather than distinct function keys and media keys, it opens up a lot more possibilities. surc fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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surebet posted:hmm, since i'd go with clears i'd source elsewhere, $35 for a pcb with the ic soldering done is well within the realm of reason, especially since i can't do fine pitch to save my life I wouldn't source the PCB anywhere else, tbh, especially locally in the US since they jack up the price. It's best to get the PCB from China and it's only $30. If you spend over $100 they send it over via express shipping for free. MX Clears are a little harder but I guess those you can source locally for like $40 for a 50-pack on flashquark.com. Though if you didn't want totally complete programmability or underglow, then I'd just get a Pok3r with clears. And lol, yeah, I got in on the SA Miami group buy as well from the original group buy runner. (who Maxkey told didn't reach minimum order quantity but made a couple hundred for another vendor anyway) The plan was to mix and match since I didn't quite like how muted Miami Night looked from pictures, but in person, it's actually really nice so I might just sell the day Miami's. Constellation I fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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How is Mechanicalkeyboards.com for ordering keyboards? I had a set of floating doubleshot ducky keys to go with their normal variant of the ducky shine 6. The order pended for like a month until I checked today and it was in stock as well at the special edition which I wanted. I cancelled the original order to get the special edition which had gone out of stock and now while I can get the regular ducky shine 6, I cannot order the floating keys which I wanted originally. Do they have issues with keeping what they have in stock up to date?
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On the recommendation of this thread I ended up getting a Ducky 1 with Mx Clear switches and could not be happier. I want to type all of the time now, it feels so much better than my beaten up old logitech wireless keyboard. A significant portion of my job is typing and if it weren't for the fact that everyone would look at me like an autistic manchild I would bring this thing to work with me. I haven't ruled out getting a 60% or 80% at some point to take with me though. This thing is better in basically every way.
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rarbatrol posted:A couple days ago, my KBParadise V80 started randomly typing As when I wasn't pressing them. It started to manifest while playing a game, where I would get stuck running sideways until I tapped A again, but at one point it automatically filled a text box when I was away from the keyboard for a while. a few things might be happening if it's exclusively the a key that does this, i'd look at the switch itself first. disassemble the switch, examine for obvious physical damage, remove all the existing lube (if any), relube with the lightest non-conductive stuff you can find (lithium grease works, but ideally a light gun oil or something similar) if it was more than just the one key i'd have a couple other things to pitch, but especially considering it's one of the wasd keys on a machine that games, (ab)use induced wear and tear is more likely k, so just to get it out of the way, you can gently caress right off. while i have to point out that the op's budget is unknown, you might be right that i'm way over the line of what they want to spend and that i'm wasting my time. cool. you are more than welcome to voice your doubts and suggest any products you think should be considered, and i'm sure you can figure out a way to do so in a way that doesn't demean other people. i look forward to reading your next hopefully more constructive post. that said, here are the requirements that chikimiki stated: • must have f1-f12 keys: can't be a 60%, and i suspect a full 104/105 board is what op wants • must have media keys, which means nothing else than "touch keyboard, skip song" • must not be gamer bling: anything that's not an office-like keyboard (no rgb, weird branding, crazy colors, wasd special keys etc) • must not be too expensive: expensive is such a relative term that this means nothing without op's guidance • must be quiet: excludes the clickier switches their actual statements: "I'm currently using a cheap dell keyboard, but I really liked my old thinkpad's tiping experience." they have a cheap rubber dome board right now, and they're missing the notoriously good & tactile scissor switches from their thinkpad. therefore, this precludes any other rubber dome boards from being considered. "Apple's full keyboard seemed good enough , but function and media keys are not distinct, plus it's expensive." while apple boards are scissors on domes, they're quite nice ones and in the same style as a thinkpad's feel. they do suffer from less than ideal placement media key placement because the current layout was rolled out with 2006 macbook pros and apple's been stuck in that design language since. the layout makes sense on a laptop since you know you have to squish the layout a bit, so with managed expectations it's fine to fn with your left hand and hit f7-f12 with your right:  on a full keyboard fn is where the insert key is on a normal person keeb, the f keys aren't clustered and it's weird to to hit fn+f7 with either one or both hands.  i 100% understand why the op didn't like this setup, but other keyboards do use fn layer media keys but in a much less stupid way. to plug the code again:  that's an easy to remember and super easy to handle with one hand layout. finally, considering that we're looking at a $130 keyboard, i read "it's expensive" as "i'd rather something cheaper". "it's too expensive" might call for $40 options but i'm not feeling the need to race to the bottom here. i'm not plugging the code because i have one, it's literally the yospos thread consensus (in clears) as the keyboard to get unless you have a specific use case. tl;dr: the op wants either dedicated keys or a not stupid fn layer. we should also ask chikimiki what kind of money they want to throw around. "Logitech G213 was another candidate, but I hate the gamer bling" rgb suggestions need not apply "and I'm afraid of the noise of those mechanical keys" a valid concern, best bet would be something in browns or clears. you avoid the extra chatter of a blue or green, and with practice you bottom out a lot less than a linear red or black. o-rings could be considered to mitigate the noise even more. to the point of all this shitposting: i believe chikimiki wants something more than just another dome board; unfortunately, scissor switches aren't that common outside of laptops. logitech makes stuff like the k800 but we're back in the hundred bucks territory pretty quick and it's nothing as good as the other scissor boards discussed. i would avoid the k55; take out the rgb gimmick and it'd be a perfectly fine keyboard at $20. this is the keyboard a kid gets when they're not able to nag their parents into buying a k70. even you looked up a k70 first. to spend $50 on a gimmick just to turn the gimmick off makes no sense, especially since for  more you can get an actual mechanical keyboard with genuine cherry switches with the corsair k66.as for the weird microsoft keyboard, like someone once told me, you shouldn't just suggest a keyboard because you love it, because this takes none of the requirements into account.
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I have this dark black PBT set with edged legends and really like it: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-pbt-laser-engraved-120-keycap-set. I think it looks pretty awesome and am not really ready to completely due away with legends due to not really needing symbols often. I know my pok3r functions, but not what number ^ is over. It's super-cheap and shipped really early when I got it on Massdrop fwiw.
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surebet posted:k, so just to get it out of the way, you can gently caress right off. I uh, think you might want to separate your self-worth from your keyboard recommendations a bit. My post provided suggestions at a lower price point. Being critical of you does not make it not constructive, and telling somebody you think their answer is not helpful is not "demeaning" them.
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i don't care if people here buy the stuff i suggest or not, i'm one of many keyboard nerds here trying to help other people find the thing that would suit their needs. this works when we pitch as wide a gamut of relevant products so the person reading can compare the pros and cons and decide what they want. someone before me went low, i went high, so per the requirements of the person originally asking there's now a nice range of stuff they can look at. doesn't work as well when some random person jumps in and talks poo poo about people trying to get other people to buy the same board as them to validate their own keeb choices or whatever. also if you think the whole "highlight a bunch of stuff in the original post" like i'm not able to read a whole 3 lines of text isn't insulting, welp. i put the time and effort to post stuff here, i enjoy knowing i helped some people finding their dream keyboards and i welcome other opinions. i'm sure you're here for the same reasons, so maybe you could add your suggestions to those of others and maybe trust that i'm not just randomly listing expensive gear i heard about. teamwork makes the dream work.
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surc posted:
Lol There is also the Product Recommendation Thread for people looking for general use items instead of hobbyist, if the recommendations from hobbyists are too far from what is expected. But the thread isn’t full of salesmen, they recommend what they like. Grassy Knowles fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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look guys if you want to discuss other keyboards that's fine, but don't pretend that suggesting a $250 DAS is at all relevant to the question posed. You can just say "look at this cool keyboard" it doesn't have to tie on to another poster. My suggestion would be to find a cheapass keyboard you like and spend $20c on some stickers for the media keys. The "Great Job" star is "next song" and "worm in apple" is "previous".
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The backlighting on the bottom of my WASD code occasionally turns off or flashes. Has anybody experienced this?
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It's a basic human need to be a snob about something It should not come as a shock to find the SH/SC keyboard thread populated mostly with keyboard snobs I'll hang up and listen
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surebet posted:i don't care if people here buy the stuff i suggest or not, i'm one of many keyboard nerds here trying to help other people find the thing that would suit their needs. this works when we pitch as wide a gamut of relevant products so the person reading can compare the pros and cons and decide what they want. someone before me went low, i went high, so per the requirements of the person originally asking there's now a nice range of stuff they can look at. Dude posted a $50 keyboard as an example of what he wanted but without gamer bling, said he had considered a keyboard (The apple full kyeboard) that depending on which model he meant is either like $60 or $120 except it was expensive and not fully what he wanted, you came back going "Check out these keyboards ranging from $150 up". I highlighted the parts I did in that quote because those were the parts it seemed like you had not actually read, since you recommended things which in no way related to that highlighted information, and which you did not put in the context of the highlighted information. I'm also a keyboard nerd (I'm planning on building a dactyl once I'm moved in to my new place for my next board, and possibly the light cycle edition for gaming on depending on how the initial build goes), and trying to say my post in this thread is somehow invalid because I don't constantly post in this thread and as such am "some random dude" is some serious circle-jerk bullshit. And again, saying a post is not helpful is not "talking poo poo". Your second post had a lot of useful information in it and actually seemed like it would be helpful, as well as having your weird "gently caress you get the gently caress out don't demean me by saying my first post wasn't helpful you're so mean" thing. A lot of your posts are useful. That first response did not seem like it was. A lot of the hardware threads suffer from somebody coming in with a list of requirements and asking for a suggestion at a lower price point, and having people go "Nope, that's poo poo, you don't want poo poo do you? You want this $300-$800 piece of equipment instead because it's the best thing ever and if you don't buy it you're screwing yourself", and when somebody speaking with authority tells somebody with no knowledge that, there's a good chance they'll listen to them, and end up buying something that's super expensive, and maybe doesn't even fit their requirements, or does but so would have some $30-$60 piece of equipment. My entire point in the one line of my post where I brought that up, is that the answer is not always "Buy the top end thing", especially when somebody provides context that makes it look like they're not looking for the top end thing. I do completely agree that having more specific budget information from Chikmiki would be helpful, and either of us could be wrong in what they're looking for, but the context of the post made it seem like they were looking for something lower end with a lower price point. Grassy Knowles posted:Lol Yes, I told him that if he was going to be doing a lot of gaming as opposed to the little amount he implied he was doing, it might be worthwhile to spend more than it seemed like he was trying to budget, while then providing several suggestions that seemed to be in the budget he's looking for.  Also, please link me to this product recommendation thread where somebody should go to ask for advice on buying keyboards rather than the thread titled "Keyboard megathread" (Not "Keyboard hobbiest thread $150 minimum buy-in") E: BTW sorry your post turned into this whole thing chikmiki, ignore the drama just look at the recommended boards. surc fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Could someone recommend me a keyboard? The only real requirement I have is that it has to have USB and headphone jack passthrough, and it must be very reliable. Don't care about mechanical switches, customizable hotkeys, sickk LEDs or anything like that. Hoping to stay less than $100. I've found this one but I haven't heard anything about the quality of Rosewill keyboards.
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If you don't care about mechanical switches, I don't think you should pay the premium. Those are cherry blue switches which are going to be somewhat loud when you type - is that okay with you?
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:If you don't care about mechanical switches, I don't think you should pay the premium. Those are cherry blue switches which are going to be somewhat loud when you type - is that okay with you? I agree, but I'm finding it hard to find any keyboards with USB and audio passthrough that AREN'T mechanical.
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Jmcrofts posted:I agree, but I'm finding it hard to find any keyboards with USB and audio passthrough that AREN'T mechanical. If you want to be fancy about it you could get one of those cord wrap things to make it look nice. --- I also have two questions for everyone: 1. What's the cheapest keyboard worth buying (as in decent quality) offering backlit keys on tactile switches? This is for a KVM station so any advanced features that depend on drivers won't be usable. I just want something better than the Dell generic rubber dome that's there now. TKL is fine but it must have an actual F-row, no Fn+whatever crap. I like Cherry brown switches but I'm OK with blues as well, or any clones in that same general area. I've never tried clears. 2. I'd like to build a DIY "G-key" type macro pad. The hardware side is easy, it's the same basic idea as a numpad just sending different scan codes, but the software side is out of my league. Is there any kind of generic software out there which would support standard gaming keyboard style macro functionality on custom hardware using non-standard scan codes?
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The EagleTec boards on Amazon are the best you can get under $50. They're built surprisingly solid and the switches aren't Cherry but they're adequate.
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wolrah posted:The college I went to just zip-tied USB and audio extension cords to the keyboard cord. If all you're looking for is a passthrough, is there any reason you couldn't do that and then use literally any keyboard on the planet? Yeah this is honestly probably the better idea, since it seems like audio passthroughs in particular are becoming rare
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surc posted:E: BTW sorry your post turned into this whole thing chikmiki, ignore the drama just look at the recommended boards. yeah that whole thing was out of line, please eventually come back to the thread with more questions. i'm going to go ahead and assume that some irl stuff i have on my plate right now is affecting me to a point where i'm super snappy for no reason, surc i'm sorry that you caught the brunt of it and i'm sure that if i read your stuff last week it would've been fine. i have to go deal with said irl stuff for the next few days anyway, so hopefully i'll come back as the helpful if overly verbose keyboard nerd i usually am. quickly, regarding grassy knowles' point, this thread isn't exclusively about $150+ gear, but if you look at the original post and skim the thread, we're pretty much focused on mechanical boards. not to say that people won't try to help with other stuff (the whole gamut of products thing i was talking about) but yeah, this is by default a hobbyist type thread and people will suggest hobbyist type stuff first. that said, anyone should feel welcome to ask about anything, especially since normal & healthy people aren't usually aware of all the details of our weird little hobby. not sure what any of us can say if someone comes here asking about the difference between two $20 products on sale at staples, but we'll figure it out. have a nice weekend guys!
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Eric the Mauve posted:Let's not get carried away surebet, anyone who buys anything except pens at Staples deserves to be pointed and laughed at
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I think I've been using a logitech G15 for about 10 years now so I decided I'm finally going to go mechanical. I've had my eye on the corsair K70 rgb since at least last black friday, but never really saw it drop below $180 CAD. So yesterday I ordered a Ducky One for $100 CAD because being able to install custom keycaps really appeals to me. Would a set of keycaps like this from AliExpress be all that bad? I don't want to go full blown audiophile with this hobby before my first mechanical keyboard has even arrived at my doorstep. e: also if my question could spark a massive flamewar I'd appreciate it mewse fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Not that it's relevant but true story, I'm an inveterate pen nerd who probably owns or has owned 100 different pens from 10/$1 papermate sticks to a $120 fountain pen. The extreme high end pens are cool for the novelty and  value, but the fact is that for everyday writing that feels good and looks good, the world's best pen is the relatively humble Uniball 207 gel pen, bold point, that Staples sells for usually 5 pens for 7 or 8 bucks. OK I'll stop interrupting our regularly scheduled keyboardnerding with pen commercials.
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https://www.banggood.com/MantisTek-104-Keys-3-Colors-Led-Breathing-Backlit-Wired-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1048682.html Banggood has a faux-mechanical keyboard with a neat glass finish and "breathable" LED lighting for $10 For that low, it was an easy decision to replace my stock Dell keyboard I've been using for 6 months.
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So if I just wanted to walk down to my local computer store (Canada), are any of these recommended/good deals? Or would I be a fool not to order online somewhere else. Not Hardcore computer , have old G-15 that I never used to it's full extent and it's keys are starting to fail. https://www.memoryexpress.com/Category/Keyboards_Gaming
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HAmbONE posted:So if I just wanted to walk down to my local computer store (Canada), are any of these recommended/good deals? Or would I be a fool not to order online somewhere else. The Corsair K70 series are good boards, if a bit pricey. If you're actually going to Memory Express then just try some and see what you like. They usually have a bunch on display. They pricematch with other Canadian retailers, so if you find a board you like check here to see if there's a better price: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/keyboard/
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HAmbONE posted:So if I just wanted to walk down to my local computer store (Canada), are any of these recommended/good deals? Or would I be a fool not to order online somewhere else. Get a REDRAGON
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[quote="“Eric the Mauve”" post="“476658430”"] Not that it’s relevant but true story, I’m an inveterate pen nerd who probably owns or has owned 100 different pens from 10/$1 papermate sticks to a $120 fountain pen. The extreme high end pens are cool for the novelty and value, but the fact is that for everyday writing that feels good and looks good, the world’s best pen is the relatively humble Uniball 207 gel pen, bold point, that Staples sells for usually 5 pens for 7 or 8 bucks. OK I’ll stop interrupting our regularly scheduled keyboardnerding with pen commercials. [/quote] Actually it's the pilot G2 0.25mm
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Actually it's the pilot G2 0.25mm Technically there are other uses for pens beyond bullet journaling. WHAT THEY ARE I DON'T KNOW, but they do apparently exist.
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