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Snowman_McK posted:Bronn's the best. The show needs more Bronn. He's an example of the balance and ambiguity that the show seems to aim for but rarely hit. He's not a good guy or a bad guy. He's just an opportunist, and is completely consistent. Except now he's a hero who for nothing decided to tried take on a dragon, and selflessly save his idiot friend. He's a good character when he's talking but he's stopped picking his battles like he used to.
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It's still self interest in a way. If Jaime gets roasted by a dragon he doesn't get his castle.
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Sep 19, 2017 09:11
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I hope the multiple endings are Butterfly-Effect timelines as Bran keeps trying to go back in time and fix things only to screw them up some more. The conclusion is screw you, Walder Frey's on the Iron Throne and nothing you watched over the last six years actually happen.
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Sep 19, 2017 12:07
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Different characters in scenes, but everyone will be Arya wearing faces and Bran warging dudes.
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Sep 19, 2017 13:32
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Things that were, things that are, and some things that have not yet come to pass.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:21
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Zenithe posted:Different characters in scenes, but everyone will be Arya wearing faces and Bran warging dudes. lmao show the same ending over and over except different characters "pull off the masks" revealing them as arya/bran and go "nope, still sucked this time"
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:lmao show the same ending over and over except different characters "pull off the masks" revealing them as arya/bran and go "nope, still sucked this time" So the bad endings from Radiant Historia?
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Evil Fluffy posted:So the bad endings from Radiant Historia?
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Zenithe posted:Except now he's a hero who for nothing decided to tried take on a dragon, and selflessly save his employer/employer's brother. If you want to argue that's a change of character, so was fighting Vader Egress in the first season. He looks after his employer and follows the money, just as he always does.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I've never heard of that...I just like the thought of arya and bran brainstorming like "Okay this time I'll try being the bad pussy sand snake and you're varys." "No way, being that guy sucks, I wanna be bronn again." it's a pretty neat time traveling rpg for nintendo DS (there's a rerelease with more stuff on 3DS next year) and basically every time you think outside the box to do something on a major decision point, you get an ending where it says "poo poo went bad, ya hosed up, try again" it's a good game with a protagonist who is actually competent at their job.
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Snowman_McK posted:If you want to argue that's a change of character, so was fighting Vader Egress in the first season. He looks after his employer and follows the money, just as he always does.
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Is it really such a hard ask to assume that after four years of paling around with Jaime that Bronn also just might like him as a person and not want him to die a horrible burning death if he could help it? It's not like that one little bit cancels out his "I don't give a poo poo about any of these other nobodies around me" and "pay me, you cheap fucker" qualities or anything...
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Bringing this back from the past to honor George. GRRM Takes A Bath A_Bug_That_Thinks posted:GRRM stared naked at the screen of the late eighties television waiting for the football game to begin. By his count, it should only be another couple of hours. A fly, attracted by the pungent stench of his pallid flesh awash with impetigo, had the effrontery to buzz near his ear. As he lifted his arm to swat it away, he felt the crust of his arm rasp against the scalyness of his rotten breast, making a sound akin to rubbing two extra well done waffles against each other. He grunted. “Paris,” he rasped out with a voice long gone to rust in the dark, “Paris, I am in need of a washing, have you wrangled a new batch yet?” Parris walked into the dimly lit room with a freshly baked lemon cake on a small surprisingly clean china plate. “Yes, I’ll get them ready, but first eat this. I just baked it, and you look ravenous”. She placed the surprisingly clean china plate atop the mound of fat that had once been a torso, just within reach of his slavering mouth. He looked at it with small eyes as hard and black as jet, with the dim light of the bare bulb across the room shining off them. He contorted his face into a porcine sneer of inhuman greed and malice. “Yes, I am getting rather peckish. But do hurry. I shan’t take long and it is well past time for a bath”. He felt himself stiffen at the thought. Parris saw his vicious little nub and gave the girlish laugh of a geisha as he buried his face into the lemon cake on the surprisingly clean china plate. some bust on that guy fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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dyehead posted:Holyshit
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I was unable to finish reading that story. Congratulations are in order, I suppose.
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some guy on the bus posted:Happy birthday George RR Martin! Congrats to reaching the sex age! 
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I thought he was still mid sixties. There's literally no chance he finishes these poo poo books lmao
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I thought he was still mid sixties. They're already finished and he will release all three (yes three!) one month before the last season of GoT airs to steal it's thunder. The man is a genius. He long conned us all from the start. And the beauty of this fantasy, we will be able to spoil the show watchers one last time before the series drifts into the ether. Time is a flat circle.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Time is a flat circle. Your mom's a fat circle.
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Cavelcade posted:Your mom's a fat circle. No you! 
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I've never heard of that...I just like the thought of arya and bran brainstorming like "Okay this time I'll try being the bad pussy sand snake and you're varys." "No way, being that guy sucks, I wanna be bronn again." When you hit many of the bad endings in that game two of the NPCs have a conversation that basically boils down to "ok well that didn't work, so let's try something else." Lycus posted:Really, if Jaime dies, he gets nothing, because Cersei won't give him poo poo. If Jaime dies Cersei will give Bronn an extremely gruesome death because she'll not only blame him for it but she'll also believe he's been working for Tyrion all this time and murdered Jaime at Tyrion's behest.
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Snowman_McK posted:If you want to argue that's a change of character, so was fighting Vader Egress in the first season. He looks after his employer and follows the money, just as he always does. I still feel this was a more calculated decision. Tyrion had been watching him after he was hired by Cat, and knew that Bronn was an extremely talented fighter, morally flexible, and willing to swap sides. Bronn fought the knight because he knows he can kill them. Bronn refused to fight Gregor despite Tyrion offering a blank cheque because he could have died and pissed off the queen. I just can't picture Bronn doing anything except immediately bailing when faced with a dragon.
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I figure Bronn agreed to the fight against Vander Egads only after realizing he wasn't going to get the scale of reward he was hoping for from either of the Tully sisters Lysa wasn't gonna give him anything, because she was a crazy paranoiac who expected people to bow and scrape as a matter of course Cat was gonna give him maybe a pittance, because she was super invested in The System and believed the men helping her should be willing to do so out of a sense of feudal obligation (which, I suppose, is another way of saying she was a non-crazy, non-paranoiac who expected people to bow and scrape as a matter of course). Also because she probably did not have all that much money on her by that point. so bronn saw the opportunity for a large reward from Tyrion, and simultaneously probably felt a bit slighted by the people he'd been working for up to that point. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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He also could have just completed the job and gotten paid. Afterwards it's not like he had any loyalty to the Tullys and couldn't take another job while hanging out. It's not like you can just wander out of that castle anytime you please. Getting out's a bitch and you don't want to travel alone because of the hill tribes.
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Zenithe posted:I still feel this was a more calculated decision. Tyrion had been watching him after he was hired by Cat, and knew that Bronn was an extremely talented fighter, morally flexible, and willing to swap sides. Bronn fought the knight because he knows he can kill them. Bronn refused to fight Gregor despite Tyrion offering a blank cheque because he could have died and pissed off the queen. Bailing and immediately being run down by either the dragon or swarms of Dothraki. And even if he escapes, I can't imagine Cersei would have been too happy that he let her brother/lover die. She also doesn't strike me as the sort who'd be troubled by whether it was actually Bronn's fault.
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Maybe Bronn just wanted to get rid of the dragon so he wouldn't get burned to death by the dragon.
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Tyrion gave Bronn that speech about how he'll be lavished with riches but only so long as he can keep Tyrion alive, and how if anyone offers to pay Bronn to betray him, he'll double it. I assume, in Bronn's mind at least, he has a similar arrangement with Jaime. Besides, it's just good business sense to try to keep your employer, who still owes you money, alive. That hardly makes Bronn some kind of saint.
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The one little thing that bothers me in Bronn's scenes is, when he starts to spar with Jamie, he fights dirty, which is revelatory to Jamie. The thing is, everytime we've seen Jamie fight in the series, he's fought dirty. He kills Ned's mate by pulling a knife in the middle of a sword fight (a nice breaking of the traditional 'crossed swords' pose) he kills a few people through the second season by strangling them when their guards are down and he famously stabbed the mad king through the back. Then, to get a joke, Bronn reveals the secret of 'fighting dirty' to a man who consistently fights dirty. It struck me like they wanted to have Jamie be a charming psychopath, but also get the gag of a guy 'from the streets' able to kick his rear end.
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Snowman_McK posted:The one little thing that bothers me in Bronn's scenes is, when he starts to spar with Jamie, he fights dirty, which is revelatory to Jamie. The thing is, everytime we've seen Jamie fight in the series, he's fought dirty. He kills Ned's mate by pulling a knife in the middle of a sword fight (a nice breaking of the traditional 'crossed swords' pose) he kills a few people through the second season by strangling them when their guards are down and he famously stabbed the mad king through the back. Then, to get a joke, Bronn reveals the secret of 'fighting dirty' to a man who consistently fights dirty. The writers forget the things they wrote about earlier in the show all the time. They're really lazy and bad. Now that they've killed off a lot of the stronger actors and can't rely on the Yellow Whale's writing it's becoming more and more evident.
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i'm mostly mad that my attempt to brand jon's wight-hunting supersquad as Leal Team Six didn't catch on 
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Ginette Reno posted:The writers forget the things they wrote about earlier in the show all the time. Sam knew. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UVsflLxbro
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Sam going to Oldtown to learn something he already knew and another thing Bran should have already figured out is the most glorious bit of "writers have no loving clue where they're taking any of this poo poo" in recent memory.
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Yeah they neglected to include the one maester who was going to do something....you know, in the next book
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The irony of the show getting worse at this point is deep. Someone here, I think, described that a huge chunk of any fantasy series is most of the vast cast just sticking in a holding pattern, having small adventures or learning lessons until they circle back to the main plot, then everything starts happening, converging, convincing you through stockholm syndrome that it was all worth it. That waiting pattern comprises, like 6 books of the Wheel of Time, and has a tendency to kill my interest in most series'. The irony is, that's the bit that the series did well, wheel spinning. All the little adventures people had, that seemed super important and then were forgotten were great. It wasn't even clear what the main plot was. Now stuff actually has to happen, they're loving everything up.
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Wow. That really resonates with me since I just finished Wizard and Glass and am debating giving up and reading all the Dark Tower spoilers just to get this interminable series over with. I don't know if can handle four more books worth of this.
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Dangerllama posted:Wow. That really resonates with me since I just finished Wizard and Glass and am debating giving up and reading all the Dark Tower spoilers just to get this interminable series over with. I don't know if can handle four more books worth of this. Wizard and Glass is the last good book in the series btw.
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The funny thing is that GRRM derailed his entire series in order to detail Dany 'learning to rule' in Mereen, only to eventually have her abandon Mereen, invade Westeros and die in childbirth without ever ruling or accomplishing anything.
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TommyGun85 posted:The funny thing is that GRRM derailed his entire series in order to detail Dany 'learning to rule' in Mereen, only to eventually have her abandon Mereen, invade Westeros and die in childbirth without ever ruling or accomplishing anything. She accomplished plenty! She left much of Essos smoking ruins, leaving shitfucked hellholes so hosed that former slaves long for the days when they were slaves simply because the status quo then was preferable to the utter anarchy Dany left behind her. EDIT: She also brought Dothraki to Westeros. I am sure that the Dothraki shall remain loyal to her successor and will in no way cause massive turmoil and chaos in Westeros the moment Dany dies. I mean, it's not like they only owe their 'loyalty' to her as a charismatic leader who slew their prior leaders, and that the moment she dies any and all bonds of loyalty to the crown of Westeros they have are dissolved, leaving them free to plunder, pillage, and rape as they have for centuries.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:She accomplished plenty! She left much of Essos smoking ruins, leaving shitfucked hellholes so hosed that former slaves long for the days when they were slaves simply because the status quo then was preferable to the utter anarchy Dany left behind her. Eh. It's not like fifty dudes on horses can do anything by themselves.
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