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superstepa posted:He isn't wrong You can't stop me from adding Mana rock Garruk!
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Gynovore posted:Personally I'm thinking that, with the new Planeswalker rule, Sisay's Superfriends will become top tier. (Or Sisay will be banned.) I had this thought for a hot second as well but yeah there aren't any green or white planeswalkers worth fetching on-demand, at least not for a combo kill. OG Garruk is probably the best PW for a GW deck but he was worth running even before the rules change.
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Sep 17, 2017 23:48
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I see no reason why you wouldn't include the dakmor salvage, eldrazi titan, discard outlet combo in any gitrog monster deck
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Sep 18, 2017 00:57
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All right, here's what I have for the Akiri/Bruse deck so far: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/akiribruse-wip/ Requesting critique, suggestions, and Toshimo ripping it apart and telling me what parts are bad. Not sure what to add/take out to make it better that doesn't cost more than I want to spend on a deck that'll mostly be played 1v1 with a friend. It's rough building this in only two colors. I keep wishing I had black for tutors/card draw or blue for card draw as well. Tymna still sounds like a great choice...
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Sep 18, 2017 01:27
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I'm not fond of Armory Automaton, Balan, or Kazuul's Toll Collector. They can wear equipment, but that just means you're splitting up your focus from "21 commander damage" to generic damage. What is Etched Champion in here for? Gray Ogre with protection from all colors doesn't seem that impressive. Akiri needs evasion. Whether that's flying, unblockable, shadow, or trample+deathtouch. There aren't a ton of cards in Boros that can do this, unfortunately. Take out Temple of the False God before you trigger Toshimo, but just accept it's a bad card. Especially if your goal is to cast a 2CMC commander and equip it quickly. Since you said this is mostly for 1v1, your other option here is to stay low to the ground--Akiri is cheap, which is one of the few benefits going for her as Voltron (low base power, no evasion). You can stick to the cheap equipment and Akiri-enabler cards, then go for land destruction. Armageddon, Impending Disaster, Ruination, Tectonic Break, Winter Orb, etc.
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Sep 18, 2017 02:43
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Aranan posted:I'm not fond of Armory Automaton, Balan, or Kazuul's Toll Collector. They can wear equipment, but that just means you're splitting up your focus from "21 commander damage" to generic damage. Armory Automaton is worth it if you run a Sunforger package or if you're looking to trigger certain special equipment.
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Sep 18, 2017 02:52
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I had put Automaton/Balan/Toll Collector in as alternate ways to beat opponents down should Akiri/Bruse be taken out and I wouldn't be able to re-equip them at a suitable enough speed (read: if I don't have Puresteel Paladin out). Those three can just grab all equipment for free and smash faces in. Etched Champion is there for similar reasons; if need be I can equip it with stuff and it wouldn't be able to be blocked in most cases. I'm not quite sure what to do for evasion beyond what I've already put in. I suppose I could throw in Key to the City to make her unblockable, but I don't think there's much more I can do. Temple of the False God I can take out; I'm just so used to using it. Land destruction is doable. I dunno, I'll consider it, since I'll be going to the LGS tomorrow to buy stuff. May skip it for now and just make a simple Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist deck, since she really doesn't need that much to be playable 1v1. Also, probably gonna sell off some of my higher price modern pieces and grab some EDH heavy value cards like Mana Crypt, Pact of Negation, Force of Will, etc. Unsure if I wanna get an LED for combos, but the first three are probably highest priority. That is, unless stuff like Aether Vial and Leyline of Sanctity are particularly great in EDH and I wasn't aware of it.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:11
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Whatever the card is in the cats lrecon that lets you hunt for x basics where x is the greatest power among creatures you control, I need more copies of it. I need one in omnath just to make that deck even dumber
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Sep 19, 2017 20:29
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Traverse the Outlands.
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Sep 19, 2017 21:02
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Matsuri posted:Traverse the Outlands. Yeah that poo poo. It's like six bucks tcg mid and hell it's worth it imo. It's pretty good if you can get a beefy dude Might find some other stuff to round out a Direct order while I'm at it
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Sep 20, 2017 06:23
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How do people usually play Mystic Rhemora? I've been slamming it and it's underperforming; people either sandbag it or just play creatures and it ends up with me saccing it having not drawn cards. Should I wait to play it later, when the game is in full swing? Should I play it right before I go off so I get fuel for counter wars? Or is it just one of those cards that gets worse if people aren't playing competitive decks?
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Sep 20, 2017 18:26
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Ideally, you do it on turn 1, before anyone else gets to go. Then it hits all their early mana rocks and cheap card draw/tutors. Of course, they have to actually play cheap mana rocks and draw--pods without Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Moxen, etc won't give you as much value out of it. If people sandbag, they're basically giving you free turns. It's not as great against creature-heavy decks, which a lot of casual decks tend to be.
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Sep 20, 2017 18:37
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Aranan posted:Ideally, you do it on turn 1, before anyone else gets to go. Then it hits all their early mana rocks and cheap card draw/tutors. Of course, they have to actually play cheap mana rocks and draw--pods without Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Moxen, etc won't give you as much value out of it. I'm thinking it's just my meta's too casual for it to do consistent work, but I wanted to get second opinions on that.
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Sep 20, 2017 19:04
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It gets way better in faster metas where people are playing a lot of 0-2 mana rocks, tutors, and cheap removal. In a more casual meta, Rhystic Study will probably get you more mileage.
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Sep 20, 2017 19:13
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One good way to look at it is to consider what the average first two turns of your playgroup looks like. Is it everyone just dropping a (tap?) land and passing? Or is it more like land -> sol ring -> signet, or land -> mox diamond -> grim monolith, or land -> mana crypt -> root maze?
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Sep 20, 2017 19:15
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Traded in some of my Modern bullion for EDH stuff. I now have Mana Crypt, Pact of Negation, flip!Jace, Chrome Mox, Flooded Strand, and Bloodstained Mire (and other stuff). Once I get a Force of Will and some more fetches/shocks I'm gonna be in business. I'd like a Lion's Eye Diamond but the price is kind of a bitch. What are some good Doomsday piles to build?
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Sep 20, 2017 21:45
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If people in your group are holding back spells and just playing dorks because you Remora'd, then you should just blow them out by playing good cards to their bad ones.
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Sep 20, 2017 21:46
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Matsuri posted:I'd like a Lion's Eye Diamond but the price is kind of a bitch. Yeah, I was kind of shocked to see that LED is over $100 now. Glad I picked one up earlier. I just wish I had done the same for Transmute Artifact. For your Doomsday questions, check this out: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-edh-doomsday-primer/
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Sep 20, 2017 22:28
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hoobajoo posted:I'm thinking it's just my meta's too casual for it to do consistent work, but I wanted to get second opinions on that. Remora is incredible in pretty much every meta but you need to sandbag it until people start throwing out their ramp/value spells. At comp tables it's turns 1-3, at casual tables you probably want to hold it till turns 3+. Remember that if people sandbag their plays just because of the remora then it has also done its job. A 4 player silence is a strong card
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Sep 20, 2017 23:30
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Toshimo posted:If people in your group are holding back spells and just playing dorks because you Remora'd, then you should just blow them out by playing good cards to their bad ones. My problem is an increasing amount of mana gets spent to upkeep it, so I'm not progressing my board while bad decks are playing their creatures, which are still better than nothing. Eventually I miss a land drop and sac Remora without anything to show for it. I'll try playing it a few turns into the game and see how that fairs.
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Sep 20, 2017 23:38
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Aranan posted:Yeah, I was kind of shocked to see that LED is over $100 now. Glad I picked one up earlier. I just wish I had done the same for Transmute Artifact. Ah, thank you. I'll use that for ideas. And yeah, it's like $125 now. It's apparently had a couple buyouts over the past year or so. So drat annoying. I guess it's not 100% necessary but it's a nice combo piece since it's 0 mana, you know?
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Played Mirri at league tonight. Game one I hosed an Ur-Dragon player up. Hammer of Nazahn, Quietus Spike, Loxodon Warhammer, Grappling Hook, I was a ten ten double striker who also made you lose half your life when you took damage Felt real fuckin great And then I remembered why I should kill the Oloro player who was the Nekusar player from last week first, always, besides having an irrational grudge against him from last week: because he will politic and pull off all kinds of goofy poo poo and make life miserable for everyone even if it's a good game Next week, I settle my blood feud
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Alternatively, instead of going on a vendetta, step up your political game and turn your opponents against him too. 3-on-1'ing someone is so much more fun than being 3-on-1'd yourself.
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Matsuri posted:Alternatively, instead of going on a vendetta, step up your political game and turn your opponents against him too. 3-on-1'ing someone is so much more fun than being 3-on-1'd yourself. personally, I think vendettas are great. I've been holding a grudge for five years now that only exists during EDH games.
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superstepa posted:Remora is incredible in pretty much every meta but you need to sandbag it until people start throwing out their ramp/value spells. At comp tables it's turns 1-3, at casual tables you probably want to hold it till turns 3+. Playing mana dorks into Mystic Remora is one of my favorite  things in EDH.Keep payin' that upkeep, bro!
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Voyager I posted:Playing mana dorks into Mystic Remora is one of my favorite Playing Mana Dorks is what I love seeing my opponent do in EDH. So many board wipes.
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Ignoring the following: Mystic Remora Necropotence Rhystic Study Grasp of Fate What are the most powerful enchantments in EDH?
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Sep 22, 2017 00:41
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AlternateNu posted:Ignoring the following: Sylvan Library, or were you looking for recommendations specifically in Esper? Zur deck?
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Sep 22, 2017 01:00
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Carpet of Flowers Survival of the Fittest Back to Basics Chains of Mephistopheles Root Maze
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Sep 22, 2017 01:17
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Food Chain
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AlternateNu posted:Ignoring the following: Rule of Law is probably the strongest stax piece in a comp meta
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AlternateNu posted:Ignoring the following: Ones that haven't been mentioned: Animate Dead Land Tax Defense of the Heart Solitary Confinement Stony Silence Phyrexian Arena Equilibrium Greater Good Aura Shards
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The 6th most popular enchantment according to EDHREC is Iroas, God of Victory. Proof that most decks online are bad.
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Blind Obedience. Also Purphoros.
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I'm a big fan of Holistic Wisdom as a green enchantment. If games are running long, it can help turn cards that may have outlived their usefulness into another card of that type from your graveyard. It's exceptionally good if you're able to keep your hand filled.
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superstepa posted:Rule of Law is probably the strongest stax piece in a comp meta And arcane laboratory!
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I love me some Sneak Attack, if only because of janky bullshit in my old Mayael deck. Sneaking in fat dudes or value ETBs at instant speed for 1 mana is pretty nice, and it pairs easily enough with something like the previously mentioned Aura Shards, Greater Good, Food Chain and/or Animate Dead (just to name a few).
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Red Blood Moon Green
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Stranglehold seems like a pretty big one since so many decks rely on tutors to work smoothly. And it doesn't restrict you, either. Necropotence is still probably my favorite enchantment in EDH though. And Solitary Confinement, if you have a system to fuel it. (Thankfully, these two work together pretty well.)
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Matsuri posted:Stranglehold seems like a pretty big one since so many decks rely on tutors to work smoothly. And it doesn't restrict you, either. That effect isn't worth 4 mana and a card.
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