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dexter6
Sep 22, 2003
Is there a listing of which Apple TV apps support 4K?

I’m particularly interest in YouTube, Hulu and Netflix

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

YouTube does not, I know that much.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

i too am mad that the delivery company are stopping someone from potentially stealing my gadget

P0PCULTUREREFERENCE
Apr 10, 2009

Your weapons are useless against me!
Fun Shoe

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

It shows my 4th gen, but there’s no volume controls?

Sorry if someone pointed this out already, I skipped past a bunch of posts during some temper tantrum about signing for packages like an adult.

When you have the remote app up, the volume buttons on your phone will adjust volume as long as you have hdmi-cec or whatever set up. I just discovered this the other day and :psyboom:

P0PCULTUREREFERENCE
Apr 10, 2009

Your weapons are useless against me!
Fun Shoe
[quote="“Subjunctive”" post="“476683518”"]
Inspect Your Gadgets > AppleTV - Signature Edition
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Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
[quote="“P0PCULTUREREFERENCE”" post="“476717000”"]
When you have the remote app up, the volume buttons on your phone will adjust volume as long as you have hdmi-cec or whatever set up. I just discovered this the other day and :psyboom:
[/quote]

I cannot get my Sony TV to see my Apple TV as CEC compatible. My Apple TV can only toggle power on the Sony TV. The remote uses IR to change volume. Is this something that can be fixed or am I looking at a generational mismatch or something?

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

Subjunctive posted:

YouTube does not, I know that much.
Yeah. I hope there is some fanfare when those apps get updated so I can check them out. Right now I just have rent movies to actually get 4K content....

Granite Octopus
Jun 24, 2008

Grassy Knowles posted:

I cannot get my Sony TV to see my Apple TV as CEC compatible. My Apple TV can only toggle power on the Sony TV. The remote uses IR to change volume. Is this something that can be fixed or am I looking at a generational mismatch or something?

Really depends on how old the tv is. I have a 7 year old Sony lcd and it will only power on, and 35% of the time will power off. Volume is IR only. HDMI Cec sounds like a huge clusterfuck even today and there is no guarantee anything will actually work.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer
Any other Sling TV subs here? I ask because I want to verify that the app is complete dog poo poo for everyone else and not just me.

It works fantastic on my FireTV sticks in every other room, but on my main TV with the ATV it's just constant crashes and hangups.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

[quote="“WithoutTheFezOn”" post="“476694161”"]
If your model has the silver remote with a click wheel it will be called “Apple TV (3rd gen)” and no the new remote won’t work with it (plus the new remote costs $79).
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Apple dropped the price of the new remote to $59 now, that was nice.

SaintFu
Aug 27, 2006

Where's your god now?
I just discovered that in TVOS 11, the Computers app doesn’t respect the iTunes sort tags. Now I have a huge number of shows sorted into “T” for “The."

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Granite Octopus posted:

Really depends on how old the tv is. I have a 7 year old Sony lcd and it will only power on, and 35% of the time will power off. Volume is IR only. HDMI Cec sounds like a huge clusterfuck even today and there is no guarantee anything will actually work.

I have a two year old Bravia, and it worked perfectly until it was updated to Marshmallow. That broke some (but not all) of the CEC functionality. It still auto changes inputs and on/off. If I'm using ARC to my sound system, it no longer passes volume control (which is used to). This is when using the Apple TV remote. If use the Bravia remote, same issue. Won't pass volume changes via ARC (but does power on/off the amplifier).

I just ended up switching everything back the way it was (Apple TV into Dennon, HDMI out of Dennon into TV) and use my Harmony Hub Activities to control everything.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Do people keep their home button going to the "TV" app in TVOS11 or revert back to the original home screen?

I am going to revert back, it is kind of annoying and the tv app seems kind of limited. Usually I just go between plex and Netflix anyway.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



priznat posted:

Do people keep their home button going to the "TV" app in TVOS11 or revert back to the original home screen?

I am going to revert back, it is kind of annoying and the tv app seems kind of limited. Usually I just go between plex and Netflix anyway.

TV app is kind of poo poo, IMO. I just reverted behavior back when the TV app first dropped. It kept my pref when I did the update, but I would have still changed it back if they overrode that.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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It's been like it for a while, but I reverted. I use the TV app for a few things, but as it can't deal with Plex it's a bit of a dud for me.

The 'pressing menu in a video stream and going back to the home menu, not the app' bug still annoys although I've not seen it in 11 yet. Hope it's gone.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



EL BROMANCE posted:

It's been like it for a while, but I reverted. I use the TV app for a few things, but as it can't deal with Plex it's a bit of a dud for me.

The 'pressing menu in a video stream and going back to the home menu, not the app' bug still annoys although I've not seen it in 11 yet. Hope it's gone.

Nope. Got kicked out of the PSVue app a couple times.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Ah it's new to me with the Tv app since that just dropped for Canada with TVOS11, didn't realize it was based off the app and not the os update.

I want to like the tv app but without support of plex and more channels signed on it is useless, and I suspect it'll always be that way. No way plex gets supported and tv channels apps are such pieces of crap anyway usually.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



There's some irony in that the apps it tends to work with are the ones I quite like using.

Proteus Jones posted:

Nope. Got kicked out of the PSVue app a couple times.

Damnit.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
Home button goes home, but probably 80% of my AppleTV use is to stream music through the stereo so a dedicated TV button is near useless to me.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Home button goes home, but probably 80% of my AppleTV use is to stream music through the stereo so a dedicated TV button is near useless to me.

You can change the TV button to bring you back home instead of the TV app in settings.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
Yeah that’s what I meant by that first phrase. I guess calling it the Home button isn’t quite correct.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Yeah that’s what I meant by that first phrase. I guess calling it the Home button isn’t quite correct.

It's especially strange that the TV app wasn't even on the AT until like 7 months ago. Before that it was only a dedicated home button, but still had the TV icon on the remote.

ManSedan
May 7, 2006
Seats 4
I like the TV app, but I have the button just take me to the actual home screen. Most of my use of the TV app comes from keeping it in the dock and launching shows directly from there, I usually only open it to reload if it hangs.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



ManSedan posted:

I like the TV app, but I have the button just take me to the actual home screen. Most of my use of the TV app comes from keeping it in the dock and launching shows directly from there, I usually only open it to reload if it hangs.

Yeah, same here. The TV app is useful to me, but I would rather go back to the home screen rather than it.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Now, that is a man who does't order products while he's on holiday.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Hey guys did you know that if you order something expensive, the shipper might require it be sent signature required?

CaptainCrunch
Mar 19, 2006
droppin Hamiltons!

EL BROMANCE posted:

Jesus loving christ, are you still raging about this?

Of course he is. Every loving thread has a Trumpian jackass. Wrong opinion, never EVER admits fault, doubles, triples, quadruples down on wrong opinion, fails to convert any thinking person to their position.

It's pretty loving tiresome, honestly.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



EngineerJoe posted:

Now, that is a man who does't order products while he's on holiday.

Man and woman, actually.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Endless Mike posted:

Man and woman, actually.

Curriers leaving letters for the couriers.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001


This is not great advice, to be honest [and it was written before there was much 4k hardware out in the wild]. You should absolutely try the cables you have but for 4k/HDR you pretty much need an 18gbps cable. The way they're marketed and sold is ridiculous and I guarantee you there were a bunch marked "high speed" in like 2009 that aren't capable of modern resolutions. People are legit having problems with the wrong cables with 4K/HDR.

e: there's a guy in my building who orders everything on amazon and he went on vacation for like 2 weeks once and there was a giant pile of packages sitting in our lobby and I almost stole some of them just on principle, like don't make your neighbors babysit your crap

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Yep, I connected my 4K with an older cable, and it wouldn't work with 4:4:4 chroma. I ordered a new cable since I have no idea what all else I have, and now it works.

savesthedayrocks
Mar 18, 2004

Sock The Great posted:

Any other Sling TV subs here? I ask because I want to verify that the app is complete dog poo poo for everyone else and not just me.

It works fantastic on my FireTV sticks in every other room, but on my main TV with the ATV it's just constant crashes and hangups.

I use sling as well. Can confirm: dog poo poo. I don't use any other device, but I do compare to the stand alone ESPN app and they are worlds apart in video quality and buffering.

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003
I'm using a really old cable. Is there a test I can run to make sure it has enough bandwidth?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



dexter6 posted:

I'm using a really old cable. Is there a test I can run to make sure it has enough bandwidth?

There's literally a "Check Cable" function in the video options.

Alternatively, make whatever changes you want, and if it works, great! If not, it'll revert after 20 seconds.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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So it sounds to me like this thing is not worth a purchase at this time with the lack of display switching, fake HDR10 on DV movies, and the lack of Atmos. Apple did say Atmos was on the roadmap, but hopefully they fix these other glaring issues rather soon.

fivehead
Jul 11, 2017

Americans Need Cash Now

Auron posted:

So it sounds to me like this thing is not worth a purchase at this time with the lack of display switching, fake HDR10 on DV movies, and the lack of Atmos. Apple did say Atmos was on the roadmap, but hopefully they fix these other glaring issues rather soon.

What is the fake HDR10 thing about? Search did not help

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

IMO Atmos is mostly useless unless you have a literal dedicated theater room, in a normal living space with furniture and windows and stuff you'll never get the kind of positional accuracy it was designed for. Invest in better main speakers.

DAMN NIGGA
Aug 15, 2008

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Somebody fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Sep 26, 2017

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HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.
Fun Shoe
I was just about to ask if other people were having issues with Netflix after the update, but it seems like you've got other things going on in this thread.

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