DaysBefore posted:

Telling brand new players to immediately commit to the grindy meta strategies before anything else is silly. Just go around, fight battles and conquer poo poo. You'll figure it out as you go.

Gejnor posted:

Holy poo poo, the mad lads did it!

Arcsquad12 posted:

Ikit Claw and his thirteen lucky companions.


Further studies revealed that Ikit Claw had perfected his cloning technique on other Doomwheels as well.


Sadly he had failed to resolve kinks in the device's instant death-kill feature

Third World Reggin posted:

https://1d4chan.org if you think that warhammer lore is hamfisted and bad
https://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com if you think that 1d4chan is hamfisted and bad
http://whfb.lexicanum.com if you have to get a face chart to see what kind of emotions someone in front of you is displaying

Blinks77 posted:

(on fixing influence/money problems with the high elves)

Nobles.

Even better, nobles with Emollient.
+1 public order all provinces
+5 local province
+5% income entertainment buildings in all provinces.

I just sit 10 of them around various enemy settlements spamming "secure influence"

It's about 60 of it a turn which pretty much fixed all my influence problems.

Mages get Entrepreneur
+3% Tax rate (factionwide)
+30% income from all buildings (local province)

Got 9 of those sitting in Tiranoc at the moment.
23k income from that single province.

Thus are the High Elven influence and Economy problems sorted out.

Loremasters are what go around with my armies. Loremasters with Medic can do a good job of making up for all your nobles being busy elsewhere.

high magic aka weedops420 posted:

High magic is a versatile blend of offensive spells and defensive buffs. Additionally, the passive provides a buff to your units to promote using the cheap buffing spells

shield of saphery (passive)
+11% gold ward save for a few seconds to all your units every time you cast. This can be extremely powerful with a lord stacked to the gills with existing resistances, when tanking enemy lords/monsters

Apotheosis (5|7)
Half the heal of a potion, causes fear for a few seconds. Ok cast range initially but can be overcast to heal that unit waaaay over there

Soul Quench (7|eleven)
Magic missile, has more damage with overcast. Flat arc encourages people spamming this to use ground mounts for greater effect.

Tempest (8|12)
A very cheap vortex spell until you realise it's against flyers only (so great vs bats and the RBAF). This also snares the air units preventing them just flying away at 100+ speed.

Fiery Convocation (15|22)
This is what people will hate you for. A big burny phoenix does a strafing run on the battlefield and everyone gets smacked for fire/magic damage. Overcasting increases the AP damage in case of tanky foes.

Arcane Unforging (16|20)
On TT this destroyed all the target's equipment (really loving over empire generals) but here it's a single-target direct damage spell similar to Final Transmutation et al. This also increases ability cooldowns (even longer if overcast) so can gently caress over spammy casters (or eg a dragon about to breathe on you) immensely

high elf notables posted:

Lords

Tyrion
Tyrion has the best natural combat skills of any unit in the game. he also gets 2 items, one which gives him a bunch of extra hp if you get him down under 10%, and his sword which gives some combat bonuses and a breath attack in case he needs to get himself out of somewhere.

Dr StrangeTeclis
Teclis is the worst melee character in the game (seriously he has worse combat stats than the wizard heroes) but makes up for it with serious magic bonuses and a load of spells and abilities. he also gets to use his sword if someone tries to engage him, which gives him actual melee strength like popeye eating spinach for about 45 seconds.

Alarielle
Alarielle is the everqueen, charged with protecting ulthuan from within. She has campaign bonuses and a unique set of spells from light, life and high magic. If using her in MP or campaign you can also use wood elf trees to fight for you.

Alith Anar
Alith Anar is a Free-lc lord released alongside QatC. Most of his bonuses are related to campaigning in Naggaron murdering dark elves, and he gets occasional assassination missions with big bonuses assigned to them. These can be against Dark elves, or he can go all Dark Angels and pick on his own kind. He can even get a mission to kill the make-a-wish kid's hero.

Eltharion the Grim
This guy rules one of the old palaces, he also had a previous beef with Grom the Paunch and is preparing for his return

There's also a secret white lion hero some make-a-wish kid got added into the game that you can recruit in the campaign - look for Alastar


magic lores: Shadows | Beasts | Metal | High (racial) | Death | Life | Light | Fire | Heavens
*Loremasters of Hoeth get a sample pack of these lores:
Shem's (light, magic missile)
Harmonic Convergance (heavens, short but significant melee buff)
Life Leech (death, single-target direct damage)
Melkoth's (shadows, numerous-model-unit direct damage)
Wyssan's wildform(beasts, armour+damage buff)
Earthblood(life, small group heal)

pnutz posted:

the unit roster is in here now, click here

remus lupin posted:

Dark magic is the Dark Elf racial lore.

Spiteful Conjuration (passive)
Everyone on the map loses 15 armour for a little while after casting. Not great, not terrible.

Power of Darkness (4)
Basically a cheap limited-use life tap ability. Note you don't have to cast on yourself, you can use that dreadspear unit over there too.

Chill Wind (5|8)
A load of icy spikes come out of the ground and damage people/block their movement. The overcast applies frostbite making them easier to run down and kill.
Do not underestimate the movement blocking especially against cavalry, this thing casts almost instantly.

Word of Pain (8|12)
Applies a big attack/accuracy debuff on the target so they can't hurt. Overcast applies a defence penalty so they die faster too.

Bladestorm (11|15)
a big vortex of blades (note: low AP damage) spins around for a few seconds. Overcasting makes it last a few seconds more.

Doombolt (11|16)
Much like the comet from Lore of Heavens. loads of Ap, works best on single targets or in an emergency to bail heroes out of a cavalry pack.

Soul Stealer (18)
Life Drain ability. Like what you wanted Life Leech to be. Pick on annoying targets like monsters and enemy lords.

quote:

The Slave Trade

pnutz posted:

click my name to go to the detailed post

Put Slaves in Naggaroth Good, Spread Out Bad, build more slave pens.

Black Arks
Dark Elves get access to a special naval unit in the form of a Black Ark. These used to be cities that were broken off from Ulthuan when the civil war kicked off and sail around under the command of an unbreakable admiral. The Admiral themselves is a sword-and-bow lord, but comes with a stack of useful abilities from his floating horde:
* personal recruitment slots from the ark, these can be used by land-based armies as an equivalent to global recruitment
* buffs to sacking and post-battle loot for local armies
* replenishment stance to help stock up armies between excursions
* massive artillery bombardments that can be upgraded (though don't upgrade all of them)

bombardment info posted:

Khaine's lash - 4 second cast, high damage, low splash. use to clean up cavalry and other low-model high hp units.
Soul Rain - 9 second warmup (shots land after 7), constant torrent of low damage shots, high splash. use to soften up infantry blobs and keep archers fixed for ranged units
Cauldron - 9 second warmup, one big splash of damage that radiates outward. great against all targets, best against heavy infantry lines and for bailing out tarpitted lords/heroes

if your black ark is killed you may get it back a few turns later (don't need to wait for another ritual) but it will have lost a few levels and you'll need to recuperate units/sack stuff to get it back up to strength

Lords

Malekith

MonsterEnvy posted:

When ever I have Malakith fight he gets a minimum of 300 kills he is a hilarious poo poo wrecker.

For backstory read the blurb above. He has a similar style to tyrion, in that he's an amazing close combat lord (and dark magic to boot) but has a choice between being a king walking around his empire brooding and getting more money out of people, or a hulk smash hero that campaigns far away and filling the iron mountains with slaves for apeshit profits. He has access to a cold one mount, a cold one chariot and a black dragon. Be advised that the cold one mounts are really good but comes with primal instinct so be prepared for malekith to rampage and take away your ability to cast. he also gets some crazy equipment, iron circlet makes Power Of Darkness cost basically nothing.

Morathi
Malekith's mum. She runs the cult of Slaanesh so while Malekith hates the cult he's tied down when it comes to dealing with Morathi.

Morathi spreads Chaos corruption until confederated.

Lokhir Fellheart
Free-LC lord that chills down on the edge of the Lustria Thunderdome raiding stuff

Crone Hellebron
The head of the witch elves, the cult of Khaine. She doesn't get to stay young forever because Morathi sabotaged the ritual (it's not as good as mamma's) so she needs to bathe in giant blood baths regularly.

Malus Darkblade
Regular Dark Elf noble but he's possessed by a rather powerful daemon. Malekith makes suppressant drugs for him and carefully metes them out to keep him under control. If Malus stops drinking the potions he can get possessed by the daemon proper on the battlefield and wreck poo poo for days but everyone's a little scared of him.

This guy has a whole set of books written about him, go look them up in the Black Library


Heroes

Sorceress
standard wizard fare really. bonus to public order, can steal tech etc etc

Death Hag
nuns of khaine. very good melee combatant and can get a bowl of Khaine Flakes to turn her into a giant buff wagon.

Khainite Assassin
bonus to slave income. These guys can kill stuff good but you'll just have them parked near Naggaroth for that money.

Master
comes with the Malus DLC. Comes with a halberd, a shield and Guardian to keep your lord alive.


magic lores: Dark | Death | Beasts | Shadows | Fire
All wizard heroes (sorceress) and lords (supreme sorceress) can use all lores

pnutz posted:

this has been externalised, click here

the lizardmans posted:

The Lizardman roster has been externalised, click here

quote:

The Dreaded Thirteenth Spell (20|20) - Lords only
An Explosion Happens and a bunch of Stormvermin crawl out of the ground, and Another Bloody Bell tolls 13 times. Overcast gives sword 'n' board instead of halberds

playygu ga

plague rash (passive)
Imbues a small speed debuff for a short time, and a small vigour debuff. The more you cast, the faster they tire out making an easier fight.

bless with filth (5|8)
Imbues units in a large area with poison attacks. Overcast lasts twice as long (a very long time).

pestilent breath (8|11)
Wide breath attack. great against zombie packs. Overcast imbues poison on all the enemy recipients

vermintide (6) x 6
Summons some clanrats to the chosen spot. Can only be cast 6 times per battle, usually more than enough

Wither (10|16)
aoe -30 armour. Overcast increases this to 60 for when you need to really soften up that dwarf front line.

plague (11|16)
A stationary vortex that lasts for debuff-lengths of time. Overcast increases the AP damage.
this is a vortex that can be cast on walls where the victims can't easily get away

pestilent birth (12) x2 - hero only
if you need tougher units, spawns in plague monks.

unit roster posted:

Lords

Lord Skrolk
Head of clan pestilens, the sickest rat you will see in the game. Comes with Lore of Plague and frenzy.

Queek Headtaker
Surprisingly one of the good melee combatants in the warhammer world. Comes with a trophy-hunter ability to deal with enemy lords/heroes

Tretch Craventail
The embodiment of Bravely Running Away. Gets campaign bonuses for breaking treaties, and bonuses for running away from combat. Surprisingly tough to kill when you finally corner him too thanks to his helmet and anti-large attack

magic lores: plague | ruin | stealth (all racial)
*lords will get better versions of these spells than the hero casters

Units:
Skavenslave whatever
They are there to collect arrows/shot/javelins with their heads, they're even worse in combat than the zombies because those fuckers at least don't break. They can catch missiles from close range as melee units, or a slinger variety if you want to catch arrows from afar and make enemy skirmisher units use up their ammo faster. Fantastic meatshield, use these to free up money for the Big loving Guns

Clanrats/spears/shields
The skeleton-equivalent unit. They're better at combat but a lot more expensive than slaves when their job is being and expendable tarpit. Grey seers and the menace-from-below ability can summon these guys for cheap if you need them for some reason.

Stormvermin sword'n'board/halberd
Those black-furred fuckers from vermintide are back, and are able to put up an actual fight against enemy line infantry, sort of. Sword and Board is useful, Halberds are lacking in mass to stop big units from just smashing them around

Death Runners
Recruited from the same building as the gutter runners (see below), these guys run slightly slower than heavy cavalry, have a reasonable AP attack and a crippling anti-armour debuff (50%!) on their attacks. extremely useful for stabbing annoying enemy line units in the back to soften them up for your slaves.

Night/Gutter Runners
More respectable ranged damage, but short range. all come with fire on the move and parthian shot, and are great at putting on skirmish mode vs enemy infantry. Comes with 30% physical resist and vangard deployment. Gutter Runners also have a passive net ability to slow down anything nearby that could chase after them. Tier 4 opens up poison attack variants.

They also have slinger versions with a more reasonable range but who the hell wants those things they don't have parthian shot.

Plague Monks
Reasonable anti-infantry fighters for the cost. Comes with physical resist and frenzy.

plague monk censor bearers
like the plague monks but an AP unit. Comes with physical resist and frenzy, does magic AP damage with a morale debuff.

Poison Globadiers
they throw acid at people. This has short range, and does splash damage, and adds a Damage over Time effect. The DoT deals out damage based on the unit size, slaverats take heaps (60 dps/tick) but lords take bugger all.

Warpfire Throwers
irondrakes with lovely armour. park them near a fight, watch the green flames go out and laugh at how fast enemy units melt

Death Globe Bombardiers
much better at deleting mosh-pits than the globadiers, these will also be relied upon to kill your units as well. This is why you use slaverats and not clanrats

Plagueclaw Catapult
catapult that launches poison attacks against fools downrange. has an arc attack so you don't have to kill too many of your own dudes. This is where you start to get into the idea of skaven as legions of meat shields that distract from scary siege equipment and weapon teams. their attacks also give the contaminated debuff (-10 morale) which stacks with the normal we're-getting-shot-by-arty penalties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNVEYO4BNKQ&t=23s

Warp Lightning Cannons
luminarks of hysh but good. If they had said Saddam Hussein was building these WMDs the whole planet would have invaded nuked Iraq.

DOOMWHEELS

Mans posted:

I'm the giant wheel that breaks all of da rules

Rat Ogres'
Monsters that move at cavalry speed but smack units around like no one's business. Used like crypt horrors, no armour means spears will give them a fight and shock cav will eat them for breakfast.

Hell Pit Abomination
Evil loving monster that is Too Horrible To Die. has regeneration, and when it's about to die (<10%) hp there is a 50% chance it gets a significant heal or it dies and the crew (1 unit clanrats) bail out to fight.

Gejnor posted:

SirPhoebos posted:

courtesy of 1d4chan posted:

A miniature named Settra found a secret out this year,
that he could avoid death and make his people rule the world,
and now some sorcerer named Nagash tries to get him day and night,
but Settra has four thousand points to protect his very life.

He has the Tomb Kings: from 1525 B.C.
He has the Tomb Kings: protection on a roll of 3!
He has the Tomb Kings: they're hanging out by the Black Gulf.
He has the Tomb Kings: Araby they will soon Engulf.

He has the Tomb Kings: from 1525 B.C.
He has the Tomb Kings: protection on a Roll of 3.
He has the Tomb Kings: they're hanging by the Badland's Gate.
He has the Tomb Kings: they will enslave the world today,
the Nehekharan way.
They're Tooooooomb Kiiiiiings Alive!

"Campaign mechanics posted:

Jean 'TotalBiscuit' le Bain goes down like a champ, 2019


CA provided a video over the tomb king mechanics and how to win the campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7g_sWmmpj4


Books aka I'm here to lead, not to read
The Tomb Kings basically don't give a poo poo about the vortex (that campaign mechanic was loving awful good god) and only care about getting some dusty old books because SuperMegaHitler™'s Black Pyramid of DOOM has restarted. To do this they have to collect 5 of the 9 books lying around the old world. Some of these are near Nehekhara, some are in far away settlements, some are in rogue armies, one is in the tower of hoeth on ulthuan and another is in the possession of one of SomethingAwful's most hated dearly departed former members (see above). Once you have collected 5 of these, the pyramid rises out of its moorings in the desert, and a final massive quest battle will happen at the Black Pyramid of DOOM (which should be easy to win if you've been levelling your LL and brought a doomstack, but it's still great fun).

There is a button on the campaign map (up the top) that lets you see where each book is located on the map what their army/campaign buffs are, and each book comes with a little bit of lore relating to Nagash's story.


money
The tomb kings basically make no money, since their economy is made out of bones. bone shields bone swords bone pyramids bone-loving-everything. however, two things cost non-bone materials - item crafting(see below) and buildings. If you are playing this in coop, feed the tomb kings money. Tomb kings can also be bought out really cheap as a consequence, since they rate gold so much (the money doesn't go the other way though, no 3k peaces here). Late-game, the tomb kings are rolling in stupid amounts of money since their armies don't consume it, so go ham and roll over everyone with 0000s of gold and millions of bones.

recruitment
The tomb kings already have their soldiers - raising them from being dead is otherwise free, and only costs time. However, each building will only support so many and you have to dig up more pyramids to get more dudes. Additionally, Armies are severely limited and you will have to research to be able to recruit more armies (and pharaohs) into your army. The Necrotect hero also has a 'stone carving' line which allows you to get a 1-2 more of a couple units (exclusive choice of small armies) which can be a real boon in-game.

Pharaohs come with their own faction bonuses while they're on the map, and also count as legendary lords (ie they will not just die forever when you lose their army).


crafting
the tomb kings introduced the crafting mechanic into the game, so you can prepare good equipment for your late-game lords when you recruit them ahead of time. This was almost immediately ported into the dwarfs though they use silly rune craft mechanics which doesn't make sense when you can use it as a money sink and gives the tomb kings reason to get hold of trade goods, since you need them for the crafting. You also need canopic jars, which can be acquired in a small trickle from all lords and heroes with a couple skill points, regional pyramids, missions and a set amount (30) from killing captives after battle (this is 30 whether you are killing 30 dudes or 3000 so it gives you a reason to do other options depending on the battle size).

art vs science - magic fountain posted:

While it has some damage spells, Lore of Nehekhara is heavily focussed on buffing units and abuse of their passive ability. Cast early, cast often.

The Restless Dead (passive) - every time you're casting, you provide 7 seconds of regeneration to all your units map-wide. since so many of your spells are cheap buffs, this can be several thousand extra hp the enemy army has to chew through.

Djaf's (3/5) - basic melee damage buff, dirt cheap and just as useful for proccing the passive as actually buffing something

Neru's (6/10) - simple but very powerful physical resistance buff - lasts for a while, remember that physical does not affect anyone with magic or fire attacks so this can be countered (or useless against certain units)

Ptra's (6/10) - more expensive than Djaf's but provides a much bigger boost due to the timer being ran down while units reload. Cast this on bow Ushabti and they will now take down the tier4 horses too

Usurian's (11/15) - damage and a slow. upgrading makes the slow much more powerful.

Sekhmet's Skullstorm (11/17) - fairly average for a vortex spell, but the lore is more about spamming buffs and proccing the passive so this is an acceptable loss.

Usekhp's (15/21) - similar to the enfeebling foe from lore of shadows, but has an area effect and lasts a long, long time. throw this in a mosh pit and clean them up in record time

unit references posted:

somewhat similar to the skaven and vampires, the tomb kings rely on a legion of lovely fodder units backed up with serious magic buffs to pin stuff down forever while scary fuckhueg beasties kill everything for you.

Realm of Souls
Tomb Kings have a battle mechanic that fills up as units are killed, in a similar manner to the Dark Elf blood-bar. This bar has 3 stages, at each stage a mass invocation of nehek will trigger providing healing and resurrecting a couple models here and there. Additionally, when the bar is filled Tomb Kings can summon a unit of Ushabti to enter the battlefield and smash whatever arty or ranged units that's still pissing you off.


Lords

Settra
Settra (full title further down in the big spoiler'd section) is the ancient and bestest king of the tomb kings. He's notable for being a little too full of himself (to the point where he will refuse good advice because SETTRA TAKES ADVICE FROM NO ONE).

Settra comes with the Lore of Nehekhara, and can get hold of a blade that imbues fire damage and blinds people for mean debuffs. His mounts include a skelly-horse, a giant basalt kitty cat or his chariot of the gods. Thematic players will always use the chariot.


Khalida
has a face mask so you can see how sexy she used to be. Her cousin was the first vampire and she hates her. she died battling her cousin but the asp god asaph was watching and replaced her blood with venom. She loves those poison attacks as a consequence.

She gets a snake staff (insert moses reference here) that can shoot magic missiles better than any LARPer. she can also ride a chariot or a giant snake construct.
1)Khalida had a starring role on dark elf tv in the 1990s

Grand Heirophant Khatep
This is the first of the liche priests to avoid dying (not old age though). He also rose Settra from the dead when all the recently-awoken tomb kings were bashing each others' bony heads in and Nehekhara was about to get destroyed in civil war. For his services, Settra exiled him until he was able to restore Khemri to its golden age and make everyone meaty again.

Khatep being a liche priest comes with the Lore of Nehekhara, and an option for a Casket of Souls for a mount. his items include a staff that increases enemy cooldowns every time he casts a spell. given the Lore of Nehekhara is mostly made of cheap buff spells, this can make him a pain to fight against.
1)a quick summary of the relationship between Khatep and Settra

Arkhan the Black, SuperMegaHitler's only friend
This is Nagash's old lieutenant from back when he was causing all kinds of poo poo. He keeps wanting to resurrect his old master so Nagash can resume exterminating all life from microbes up like what the old necrons did in 40k.

If you pick Arkhan, you get some select forces from the vampire counts, but no one likes you and the tomb kings hate your guts hard for siding with SuperMegaHitler. However, you start with one of the books already in your possession, which is nice.

Arkhan doesn't get any really cool mounts, but starts with the Lore of Death and gets a staff that lets him reduce cooldowns, and a sword that lets you summon a bunch of skeletons to tarpit annoying units.
1)Arkhan's relationship with Nagash


magic lores: Death | Light | Nehekhara (racial) | shadows (campaign only)

Skeleton Warriors/spearmen
silver shields, but godawful combat stats otherwise, like "goblin spearmen that aren't upgraded" bad. Their main use is tanking arrows and surviving long enough for the rest of your army to kill poo poo.

nekehara warriors
dual-wielding skellymans that have some reasonable melee stats (around empire swordsman level). Much like swordsmen with honest steel, they can get quite significant boosts from lords and buffs to be quite killy.

tomb guard/halberds
used like medium armoured grave guard, they will put up a much bigger fight than the skellymans and since you're not paying for upkeep this is a good thing.

Halberd versions bring some AP to your army, but have the same combat problems as stormvermin (low attack, low mass) so don't make them your entire line

ranged

skelly archers
they're average at shooting, but they're a ranged unit and that can be useful sometimes. Khalida players also give them serious buffs so they're worth keeping around.


cavalry

skelly cav
a bit like the high-elf light cav, awful stats but they're reasonably fast (not light cav fast but enough to outrun the heavy stuff) and can do basic cav stuff as a result.
these are melee cavalry, not shock cav. throw them in and check back on them after a while, their charge bonus isn't as much a priority for micro as with shock cav.

these units get vangard deployment.

nekehara horsemen
these cav have some actual meat on the bones and are a general upgrade to the skelly cav you get earlier. better melee stats, moderate armour like the tomb guard.
like the skelly cav before them, these are melee cav and are a lower micro priority than normal.

skelly chariots
it wouldn't be Egypt Nehekhara without chariots, and while the stats are middling, they come in blocks of TWELVE instead of the usual 4 that you see SURTHA EK rolling around with.
This helps immensely with smashing enemy lines, and lets you cause the bullshit chaos that the norscans do without having to make them most of your army.

If you're Settra, don't be afraid to make these a large chunk of your army until late-game.

skelly cav archers
awful bow damage like the foot-based ones. However, they get vanguard deployment, fire-on-the-move and can move faster from the skelly horses they're on.
these units do NOT get parthian shot,

skelly chariot archers
these guys get a much better ranged attack to make up for the lower unit sizes. otherwise, they're only shooting between smashing into the next unit.


flyers

carrion vultures
they fly around and have respectable melee damage. like harpies and isabella bats, use them to clean up unsuspecting arty and archer units and nibble on people's achilles tendons.


constructs and other big monsters
though these guys are made of stone and not bone, they follow the normal undead rules of disintegrating instead of breaking.
they do NOT benefit from realm of souls however, and generally if you're taking these you'll be taking a necrotect hero for buffs.

ushabti
these are the dudes you saw in the pyramid in the trailer. good at fulfiling a melee cavalry/medium monster role and smashing packs of infantry into small pieces real fast with AP damage.

ushabti with great bows
the normal dudes but they now have a big fuckin' bow to shoot people. huge range and great damage, they are great at removing cavalry from range (one shot takes out any horse below tier4) and softening up the real big monsters.

sephulcural stalkers (the big cobra-men with spears)
big anti-large units, they also come with vanguard deployment, and a magical javelin or three that also applies poison to people. sneak around and stab cavalry.

necropolis knights (big cobras with spearmen on them/big cobras with halberiers on them)
AP, bronze shields, poison attacks, good charge bonuses, these are fairly good for smashing units held down by all your skellymans
the halberd version now does even moar anti-large, though they hand in the shields

tomb scorpion
a Big Fuckin' Scorpion that has vanguard deployment, great AP, bonus vs infantry and causes terror. It also has an attack that smashes units BEHIND it with its tail, and a burrow attack that makes it invulnerable while it's under the sand.

Basically a big disruption unit like an armoured eagle that can't fly

khemrian warsphinx
a huge black battle-cat with archers on it. No need to flank, it will smash everything on its own.

heirotitan
Like a normal giant, the heirotitan is an arty magnet. Unlike the normal giant, it has really heavy armour so it doesn't get murdered by arrows. Its melee attacks also do magic/fire damage. On top of this, it comes with one bound cast of Spirit Leech and 3 of the light magic beam, Shem's Burning Gaze.

necrosphinx
a giant black battle-cat with Egypt Nehekara-wings and giant blade-arms on it. Tough as nails, it runs at cavalry speeds and does huge amounts of AP, with a massive large targets bonus. This is the real wrecking ball that cleans up unwanted blocks of anything.
it is also fat enough that it can smash fort doors on its own.

tomb giant

tomb giants are added with QatC as free-lc (because sub-dlc is iffy at best). What sets these buggers apart from the other giants is it's a skellyman they get a bow like the bow-shabti, except it's the size of a goddamn giant and hits like a cygor rock. They are also made of rock so they can take a surprising beating with heaps of armour.

skelly arty

screaming skull catapult
skeleton catapults that throw giant blue screaming skulls at people. Like the warpstone-thrower, these cause an extra morale debuff on top of the normal we're-being-shot-by-arty stuff, so they're good for routing units.
the skulls also do magic damage as well.

Ark of the Covenant Casket of Souls
inaccurate shots but they do horrendous damage with magic attacks. Lords/heroes can boost this to horriffic levels.



regiments of renown

scorpion legion (skelly spears)
the main difference is that these guys come with a poison attack, which is very useful in their role of tying things down

khepra guard (tomb guard)
basically a tomb guard version of nekehara warriors, they traded in the shield for another sword, regeneration and also come with magic attacks for cleaning up wraiths and savage orcs.

blessed legion of fuckoff (skelly archers)
all round stat boosts, but their main use (more than the name) is they come with a sunder armour (-30) on their arrows. This doesn't come with their melee attacks, which means they need to keep an arrow and stab people with that instead of their normal weapon.

chosen of the gods (ushabti with bows)
their arrows come with the equivalent of shrapnel shot from the gunpowder-based total wars, they burst near the target and rip up enemy infantry, cavalry, anything really. They also come with shieldbreaker which helps friendly archers

eyes of the desert (big cobra-men with spears)
these come with meaner ranged attack, and more importantly they have vanguard AND stalk to do some sneaky surprise murdering of enemy units

sphinx of usekpth (necrosphinx)
meaner and greener whiter than its normal buddy, it also does magic/fire damage as well as fire resist.

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Extra Powder
All ranged units in the Vampirate army come with an ability which significantly boosts their ranged attack damage for the first few shots (disabled once you’ve used 20% of your ammo), which can be useful for ambushes and thinning numbers before the lines close.

Aquatic
Most units (ex. Arty, collossi, fliers and mournghouls mostly) also have aquatic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjJuZCECRu4

Legendary lords

Luthor Harkon
This is your pirate jack sparrow. He looks like Filch/Walder Frey but he’s got great melee skills and a meaner handgun to shoot people with yarr. He can be mounted on a terrorgheist and can get a legendary item of slann gold

As noted in the blub, Luthor Harkon has no spells of his own.

Aranessa Saltspite
Pirate Elizabeth Turner. Wears a lice bandana like actual jack sparrow (this is about all the armour she wears btw) but unlike everyone is in the realm of the living. As such, she is able to bring some actual human units with her. She can mount a Giant Enemy Friendly crab and her halberd gives her a +35 boost to attack vs large. She used to have some evil wombo combo attack that murdered people but I think that’s been fixed now.

Aranessa has no magic of her own, but has a set of dice to affect her saves (the ability has 2 dice on it and gives her defence/ward save) and a net that can’t target flying.

Count Noctilus
Pirate Captain Barbossa. While his melee isn’t as good as saltspite’s (his halberd bonus isn’t anywhere near as big) he comes with more conventional vampire abilities to make up for it, and is much tankier overall with much more hp and a decent armour level. He can mount the necrofex collossus (a ship-turned-giant that shoots at people) and has a compass that points to your heart’s desire summons more zombies.

Noctilus comes with a mix of vampires/shadows magic, including raising zombie pirates, healing, the pit of shades, the hunger and the wind of death.



Cylostra Direfin
Pirate Madame Castafiore. She was a famous Bretonnian singer whose ship got swallowed up by a storm en-route to Ulthuan (and that’s drat good for those pretentious pricks to want to listen to you). Being a Ghost Lord she has no armour, but comes with the 75% physical resistance afforded to all ghosts, so she’s bad against lords/heroes but great against most other units. She can mount a HUGE Enemy Crab which will trade off her physical resist/magic attacks for more conventional “fuckloads of armour, hp and damage”. She also gets some spells and one of those folding fans to keep her casting cooldowns short

Cylostra Direfin has access to the lore of the deeps

Minor Lords
Minor Vampirate lords come in 2 flavours, halberd and pistol. The pistol ones are much more offensive-oriented but lost the AP melee ability for their handgun so you have to remember to keep them at range. Both Vampires can be recruited for each lore type as well.


Heroes

Gunnery Wight
An unarmoured dwarf engineer, similar to the skaven guy. Comes with ranged boost abilities, and limited-charge abilities to replenish ammo, throw bombs or snare units. They can also mount a Giant Enemy Crab

Mournghoul Haunter
A cheap hero, lots of hp, ok armour, comes with siege attacker and a big infantry bonus. Throw them into trash units to clean them up in a hurry.

Vampire Fleet Captain
Just like Isabella’s sexy vampire but now they’re in pirate outfits. The swash, they buckle, they have less armour but they still work as your casters. They can also mount a Giant Enemy Crab


Magic lores - vampires/death/deep (racial)

Melee infantry

Zombie deckhands/spearmen
The unit name says BRAIIIINS but they have much better combat ability, similar to skellyman warriors. Likewise with the spearmen, they’re a cheap unit to make cav and unarmoured monsters think twice before wiping you out anyway.

There is also a regiment of renown that comes with an ability that makes it tireless if it’s not wavering

SirensSyreens
Hexwraiths but with more salt in their diet yarr

GraveDepth Guard/Polearms
Just like the grave guard, a tankier unit for Vampirate armies. The melee ones look like a watery Slambo which is awesome.

There is a regiment of renown for the polearms that comes with frenzy, the hunger and an enrage ability


Ranged Infantry

Zombie gunnery mob (pistols/bombs/rifles/hand cannons)
Ranged firepower for the zombie army. These guys unlike deckhands all have actual zombie combat skills so don’t let them fight up close. Pistols work like free company zombies. Bombs do splash like really lovely death globes. Rifles have long range but are still relatively weak dps-wise, hand cannons have actual damage but have shotgun range.

There is a regiment of renown of the handgunners which have rifle range called The Black Spot (they need more treasure island references though goddamnit)

Deck Gunners
Small in number, these guys carry a cannon off a ship into battle. They have good range and damage but their real asset is shieldbreaker, to soften up enemy lines to your ranged zombie fire.

There is a regiment of renown of ghost deck gunners (zomg) who traded off shieldbreaking for physical resist, magic attacks and a big leadership debuff like with plagueclaw catapults



Melee Monsters

Bats/Wolves
Same as the vampire ones really, though they did rename the wolves to scurvy dogs yarr

Bloated Corpse
Zombie Augustus Gloop. After emerging from the pipe he thinks of everything as food and will run at it like a fat kid who just saw a free lolly stall.

He also explodes and does ludicrous damage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSORiSaRW8

Animated Hulks
Watery Trolls, small unit count that smashes stuff with AP damage and has no armour.

Mournghouls
Like Crypt Ghouls but there’s only the top half. Low Armour, but good AP and anti-infantry abilities.

There is a regiment of renown with much better melee skills and rampage.

Giant Enemy Crabs(aka “Rotting Promethenas”)
Much like Armoured Trolls with extra armour. Reiksguard-level armour, ok speed, ok AP damage for monster units and awful leadership.

Ranged Monsters

Deck Droppers (pistol/bombs/rifles)

Larger Fellbats holding a zombie pirate. These guys have been seen all across the universe, some were even in the 41st millennium to watch the showdown between the emperor and horus on his throne

There is also a regiment of renown of the bombers, with armour piercing bombs and sunder armour

Giant Enemy Crabs With Guns(rotting promethean gunnery mob)
Now the buggers have ranged units on top to shoot at people like they’re a spiderlord or an elephant archer or something. Good damage but there’s limited amounts of them in a unit so it’s more supplementary, like the archers on a wood elf hawk squad.

There is a regiment of renown best described as “Giant Enemy Crabs With Guns, Better Defence Stats And Regeneration ho ho ho”


Arty

Mortars
Barnacle-encrusted version of the empire piece. Brings much-needed firepower to the Vampirate army.

Carronade
Likewise, slightly poorer barnacle-encrusted version of the empire cannon. IRL the carronade was a shorter gun used for close-range engagements against enemy ships but it has a naval theme and GW could repurpose old cannon moulds for the new gun so here we are.

Queen Bess
A giant mortar with ALL the barnacles and armour piercing damage, flaming attacks and a debuff that kills 75% of movement speed.

This unit is considered a regiment of renown in its own right so you can’t throw this into every SP army.


Real Big Monsters

Necrofex Collossus
A ship that’s been turned into a construct with gun arms. It stomps around like a giant and then blows the everliving gently caress out of people at range.

There is a regiment of renown unit. It has a flamethrower instead of multicannons and does over five thousand dps with its limited ammo, this will delete several units if you let it. It also gives -8 leadership debuff and has melee attack vs infantry but who cares about being brave when you’e dead.

Oh yeah the ror unit also spawns some zombies to help defend itself too if it gets below 50% hp

HUGE Enemy Crab (aka “rotting leviathan”)
Big stompy huge-armoued monster like the Giant ones but even bigger and with more armour.

Death Shriek Terrorgheist
Similar to the Vampire one, not that that’s bad because it’s a flier with poison attacks that can eat annoying ranged units that aren’t defended properly

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

How have I played this game since release and not noticed the icon to the left of the units numbers show if a unit is large or small

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Alright, I have seen a few threads poping up about how some auto-result calculations are completely bonkers or make no sense.

In this thread I'm going to try and explain how and why this happens.

First of all the first thing to understand is that Auto-resolve is a pure number game, the calculation does not take into account any strategy, counters or whatever so don't try to rationalize a completely crazy score by saying "oh yeah but if he uses that cavalry to trigger a mass rout it could work".
This level of calculation is far beyond what was programmed.

Here is how it works :
Missile damage and Ammunition is by far the stats that have the most impact on auto-resolve.

Basically the game always considers that ranged troops and artillery will fire ALL their ammunition. That's why artillery with high missile damage is so powerful on auto-resolve.

This is why the most powerfull unit in Auto-Resolve calculations is the Hellbaster gun.

If you want to play an easy-mode campaign just pick Balthazar Gelt and auto-resolve your way to complete domination while your starting Hellblaster racks up thousands of kills per battle.

Another thing to note is how ranged and melee units work, let me explain.
ranged unit are considered as never engaging the enemy in melee until all allied melee units are dead. that's why right now if you have a high elf army mostly made up of Sea Guards your melee focused units like white lions or swordmasters will get slaughtered in Auto-resolve, they're considered as tanking the entire enemy army for your Sea Guards who are calculated as ranged units.

That's also why a pure Sea Guard army takes so much damage if there is nothing to tank.

Now healthpoints + Charge bonus is also a close second for most powerful stats combo (that's why Kroxigors are absolute beasts in auto-resolve) but unlike artillery the charge+health combo is for melee units and as I explained they risk losing HP as they take damage during the Auto-Resolve.

Given what I just said you'd be right in thinking that missile cavalry is very powerful in Auto-Resolve but due to their low health they'll get slaughtered in the action (while taking hundreds of enemy casualties with them)

Hope this helped

Panfilo posted:

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Margin of Victory or Loss is not at all determined by casualties as people would assume, but the ratio of damage dealt and damage received. There are also other minimum requirements as well; having a full stack of elite vs 1 lord with 1 HP will not give you a Heroic Victory because you only did 1 damage to him, even if the ratio of damage to HP was enormous. This helps balance different armies; smaller armies are not unfairly benefitting from the fact that they will receive comparatively less casualties even in decisive losses. I don't know the exact thresholds for getting Pyrrhic/Close/Decisive/Heroic victories, but I have noted the easiest way to get Heroic victories is to defend in a siege and/or use damage spells effectively. With magic being buffed I find it somewhat easier to get them now. Margin of Victory determines how much experience your Lord and Heroes receive at the end of the battle; while damage dealt determines exp/veterancy of regular units, Lords/Heroes only care about the degree you won; a Lord could theoretically get 1,000 kills on his own but if he gets a Pyrrhic victory then he'll receive less exp than a Lord that got 0 kills but won a Heroic victory.

the OP speaking posted:

Armour will block normal damage to a random percentage between 50-100% of the rated armour value (this will be affected by exhaustion). The total number is clamped to 100% so you can't heal off taking damage
for example, an empire swordsman with 40 armour will block between 20 and 40 percent of all non-AP damage that it didn't dodge.
while resistance is clamped to 100%, increasing your armour rating beyond that improves the chance of blocking all AP damage. For example, an empire knight (100 armour) will have a 2% chance of blocking all the non-AP damage, a reiksguard with 120 armour will have a 33% chance to only take AP damage from a given attack. This also ties in with attack bonuses as detailed below.

charge and damage bonuses are only applied in proportion to the existing unit's damage.
A spearman with poor AP damage will perform poorly against an arachnarok with its 150 armour, but will rip up a giant good with its awful 30 armour because they can make use of most of their damage bonus.

""RBA-Wintrow posted:

Count Chocula Legendairy Lord confirmed!

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

RBA-Wintrow posted:

I’m applying for dual citizenship with the Orangutan Surfing Civilization

Tiler Kiwi posted:

Ze Pollack posted:

rats, who are against the concept on moral grounds

420 Gank Mid posted:

We got a real spawn goin' now welcome to the Great Plan

Kainser posted:

Possibly the greatest mod since the deformed kislev bears:

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

10x unit sizes, huh? Let's try it out.



Wait a minute, what's that?



Zoom!



ENHANCE

Korgan posted:

SteelMentor posted:

My vote's for Ludmilla Loinripper.

SirPhoebos posted:

Hats. We're hats. We're the hats.

Randarkman posted:

Did Sarthorael always have that insane missile resistance?

Because I remember him going down like a chump to a succession of cannonballs.

Davincie posted:

high elf supremacy

Ze Pollack posted:

if you want to imagine the future, imagine a triceratops stomping on an elven face, forever

Davincie posted:

high elf supremacy

Ze Pollack posted:

if you want to imagine the future, imagine a triceratops stomping on an elven face, forever

ChickenWing posted:

ground floooooooooooooooooooooooooor

Holy poo poo I want to stab a rat

Vlex posted:

Elves murdering elves is good and therefore dark elves will be my first playthrough

Taintrunner posted:

What's the human faction or do I just have to play on the big fuckin' map with all the factions

ChickenWing posted:

New skaven ritual video

ChickenWing posted:

New skaven ritual video

William Bear posted:

Still can't decide who I want to play as first. Leaning either Tyrion or Skrolk.

Gonkish posted:

How to figure out if you're the best Warhammer race:

- Are you an elf? You're not the best and also kill yourself.

- Are you a frog person who leads dinosaurs that ride dinosaurs? Ok that's pretty good.

- Are you a loving insane, magic cocaine sniffing ratman that uses crazy contraptions and deliberate friendly fire to achieve your goals? Congrats, you're the best race.

All of this is, of course, only applicable until Chorfs are in the game, because they have the best hats.

Blinks77 posted:

I'm kinda leaning more and more towards Making Ulthuan Great Again.

Ze Pollack posted:

Tyrion is gonna have the problems of the WH1-release Empire start: please enjoy fighting nothing but your own people's tier one infantry for the first 4/5 of the game, then throw a doomstack at the target of opportunity of your choice.

guarantees that anyone playing against the High Elves is gonna have a hard time shutting them down, but playing as that person is going to get real old real fast.

you wanna High Elf, play Teclis, and make war against a delicious assortment of jerks.