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Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

toanoradian posted:

Tidus has a mind? How can a dream have mind?

*i haven't finished ffx

He's more of a summon than just a dream. Summons are born from dreams in FFX which sounds weird, but he's still a living creature...I think.

Ventana fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Sep 24, 2017

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Donald Duck: "Imagine four Xehanorts at the edge of a cliff..."

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Ventana posted:

He's more of a summon than just a dream. Summons are born from dreams in FFX which sounds weird, but he's still a living creature...I think.
Yeah, he's basically just an aeon. That's why you can rename Tidus in FFX but none of the other main party members.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


But mostly because someone on the writing staff thought "star player of the zanarkand abes" was really clever

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
No but like 19 years later what the fuk is an Abe

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
ffx is set in our universe's distant future, they mean like abraham lincoln. we escape earth to another planet and that was the ff10 world, and then hundreds of thousands of years later we return to earth, and then sephiroth casts supernova

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

You ever just think about the zipper on Donald's hat?

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Amppelix posted:

You ever just think about the zipper on Donald's hat?

There are hats that have them. They act as a pocket.

It's dumb

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Burkion posted:

There are hats that have them. They act as a pocket.

It's dumb

Donald Duck Meat Hats.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

Burkion posted:

There are hats that have them. They act as a pocket.

It's dumb

It's functional design. Gotta have as many pockets as you can for optimal easy access and transport of small materials. Nomura is an incredibly forward thinker.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It's where Sora's 2 dozen different keychains are stored

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Donald's hat has a zipper on it because it is the collapsed version of his mage hat he is wearing when he is introduced in Disney Castle in the first game. That's definitely canon. The mage hat has a zipper on it.

Edit: or a belt buckle, whatever, I'm still convinced that it's true.

Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Sep 27, 2017

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
Blackbelt Bobman, why the gently caress would a wizard want to collapse his hat into a beret?

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Gologle posted:

Blackbelt Bobman, why the gently caress would a wizard want to collapse his hat into a beret?

He needed to blend in because of the no meddling rules, that's the explanation for why they change their clothes

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

bizarre deformity posted:

He needed to blend in because of the no meddling rules, that's the explanation for why they change their clothes

*is still a duck*

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Bust Rodd posted:

*is still a duck*

He primarilty visits Disney worlds, the odds of them having talking animals is like 9 in 10.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Amppelix posted:

You ever just think about the zipper on Donald's hat?

Occasionally I wonder what would happen if Square-Enix went completely nuts with their properties and just threw everything in. Have Kain fight against Kefka. Let Lara Croft save the Bubble Bobble dragon from getting killed by Ragnar McRyan. Let Edward Elric get pissed off at Gladiolus for making a short joke. Just make an absolute mess of characters mashed together in a clusterfuck so convoluted it'd make the average fanfiction look like Shakespearean.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

SatansBestBuddy posted:

Occasionally I wonder what would happen if Square-Enix went completely nuts with their properties and just threw everything in. Have Kain fight against Kefka. Let Lara Croft save the Bubble Bobble dragon from getting killed by Ragnar McRyan. Let Edward Elric get pissed off at Gladiolus for making a short joke. Just make an absolute mess of characters mashed together in a clusterfuck so convoluted it'd make the average fanfiction look like Shakespearean.

JC Denton dropkicks Donald Duck.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Funky Valentine posted:

JC Denton dropkicks Donald Duck.

lara croft adopts max, goofy is confused

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
I'm almost proud of Kingdom Hearts for keeping the romance stuff to something as simple as Sora and Riku and Axel/Roxas/Xion


With all the crossover poo poo it'd be way too easy to indulge in fanfiction bullshit.



Speaking of, are we ever going to learn in universe what the deal with Tifa, Cloud and Sephiroth is? Because those three are loving weird even with the other cast off FF characters.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Burkion posted:

Speaking of, are we ever going to learn in universe what the deal with Tifa, Cloud and Sephiroth is? Because those three are loving weird even with the other cast off FF characters.

1) tifa is tifa
2) cloud is vincent except they realized vincent doesn't have star power so they changed his model to have cloud's head. leon is cloud but they also realized that cloud can't be both vincent and himself so they had to choose one or the other and went with making him vincent
3) sephiroth is a bishounen

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

The rest of the FF7 cast lives in Cloud's heart just like half the regular cast lives in Sora's heart.

Burkion posted:

Axel/Roxas/Xion

God drat it is astounding how they fumbled the writing on Axel and Roxas's relationship in 2 and then mostly enforced the fumble throughout Days.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
How was it fumbled? The specific writing on their relationship in KH2 is kinda foggy for me now.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Burkion posted:

Speaking of, are we ever going to learn in universe what the deal with Tifa, Cloud and Sephiroth is? Because those three are loving weird even with the other cast off FF characters.

Sephiroth is the darkness in Cloud's heart or something and Cloud wants to kill him. But he's like too depressed and withdrawn to defeat the darkness so Tifa shows up and is his friend and cares about him so light happens and they teleport away somewhere.


Funky Valentine posted:

The rest of the FF7 cast lives in Cloud's heart just like half the regular cast lives in Sora's heart.


God drat it is astounding how they fumbled the writing on Axel and Roxas's relationship in 2 and then mostly enforced the fumble throughout Days.

Actually i'll think you'll find nothing was fumbled and it all happened exactly as planned in Tetsuya Nomura's great KH vision.


E:

Pureauthor posted:

How was it fumbled? The specific writing on their relationship in KH2 is kinda foggy for me now.

They were written as if they were very close and Axel clearly cared a lot about Roxas and so people went "wow that's gay" and then 358/2 came out and people continued to go "wow that's gay".

SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Sep 28, 2017

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
To be fair, Axel/Roxas is the only pairing that makes sense in Kingdom Hearts when you think about it. Here, let me illustrate my thesis in a 200 thousand word essay about gay pairings in Fanfic-I mean video games.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
They wrote them as lovers in 2 and by God did they double down on that come Days

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I've never gotten that impression from them but alright

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.
Men with feelings = gay, didn't you know?


Then again it does make more sense than most pairings in VGs.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
That's how the internet raised me

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Two people who are at least moderately attractive and interact with each other in any capacity means they're deep in love.

The internet has taught me well.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

They can't out gay Sora and Riku

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Sakurazuka posted:

They can't out gay Sora and Riku

Well of course not


Xion is there too

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Xion doesn't and never existed.

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy
Xion was too gay for this world.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*
Xion is in the realm of not really having a gender, so I don't think that fits under "gay" really. Especially not when Roxas mainly see's Xion as a girl. Though I think Axel saw Xion as Roxas, so that'd be gay?

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Bust Rodd posted:

No but like 19 years later what the fuk is an Abe

you know
like abe lincoln

melodicwaffle
Oct 9, 2012

Call or fold?

Ventana posted:

Xion is in the realm of not really having a gender, so I don't think that fits under "gay" really. Especially not when Roxas mainly see's Xion as a girl. Though I think Axel saw Xion as Roxas, so that'd be gay?

I think Axel sees Xion as Naminé, but I'm not sure, it's been awhile since I read Days' secret reports

speaking of those, I'm just gonna take a moment to appreciate how while every other member of Organization XIII talks about Really Vague Plot Stuff in their reports, Demyx spends his complaining about how he can never get any jam session time in and how his bosses are cramping his style. Demyx is the best

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

melodicwaffle posted:

I think Axel sees Xion as Naminé, but I'm not sure, it's been awhile since I read Days' secret reports


Wiki time:

quote:

Roxas, Axel, and Riku see her as Xion (and later as Sora), Xigbar sees her as Ventus, Xemnas sees her as Sora, while Saïx (and also Axel, initially) sees her only as a hooded doll.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



SatansBestBuddy posted:

Occasionally I wonder what would happen if Square-Enix went completely nuts with their properties and just threw everything in. Have Kain fight against Kefka. Let Lara Croft save the Bubble Bobble dragon from getting killed by Ragnar McRyan. Let Edward Elric get pissed off at Gladiolus for making a short joke. Just make an absolute mess of characters mashed together in a clusterfuck so convoluted it'd make the average fanfiction look like Shakespearean.

So, basically, you want them to expand Dissidia beyond Final Fantasy?

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Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


SatansBestBuddy posted:

Occasionally I wonder what would happen if Square-Enix went completely nuts with their properties and just threw everything in. Have Kain fight against Kefka. Let Lara Croft save the Bubble Bobble dragon from getting killed by Ragnar McRyan. Let Edward Elric get pissed off at Gladiolus for making a short joke. Just make an absolute mess of characters mashed together in a clusterfuck so convoluted it'd make the average fanfiction look like Shakespearean.

Square Enix published the Arkham City games in Japan, and Nomura did that Batman redesign, so put Batman in this game and let him punch Zell in the face.

Also have Kefka and the Joker hang out. They don't even have to do anything, they just hang out n talk about Clown Stuff

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