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We all know in Star Trek you can play Gilbert and Suolivan with two button presses. How many button presses in The Orville does it take to send a dick pic to a bridge console? Like around ten button presses?
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People tend to have shortcuts for frequently used computer functions
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Sep 30, 2017 13:29
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FELD1 posted:Also I'm curious about what was so bad about "One Million Ways to Die in the West." I thought it was really funny and entertaining, but I'd love to find out why I'm wrong. You really wanna know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gd0ecZLw_A
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Sep 30, 2017 13:43
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Al Borland Corp. posted:We all know in Star Trek you can play Gilbert and Suolivan with two button presses. How many button presses in The Orville does it take to send a dick pic to a bridge console? Like around ten button presses? You know, I noticed that too. The little keypad on the arm of his chair had like 6 buttons tops, and it took about 5 keypresses, so yeah, the dick pic must have been in a 'frequently used' folder or something.
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Sep 30, 2017 14:49
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Going from a crew member being shot, a mob beating a guy to death, and the beating and torture of another crew member to "lol I'm so awkward in elevators" was way too jarring. And i wish the inquisitor guy had repercussions, last thing we see of him is looking at the stars with a "huh" expression on his face. If this was star trek, what would've been the correct course of action? Towing the bioship away from the star and otherwise leaving them alone?
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Sep 30, 2017 14:50
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WHY BONER NOW posted:If this was star trek, what would've been the correct course of action? Towing the bioship away from the star and otherwise leaving them alone? Kirk totally would have opened that canopy
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Sep 30, 2017 14:54
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WWKDKibayasu posted:It's a better concept for an episode than "alien zoo," I like those because there's always people thinking, "This is retarded, who would do that to obviously sentient beings," when --  -- HUMAN ZOO Accretionist fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 15:09
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Another thing that kind of struck me the wrong way was the helmsman going BOOM. They just killed a ship with presumably a full crew of sentient/sapient beings. Yeah they were justified in doing it but seems like it should've been a little sobering. I don't know if that's more telling of the overall tone of the show, or the conflict between the union and the krills. Interesting that they had a choice between taking out the enemy weapons or blowing them up, and they went with blowing them up. Picard would've gone for the weapons. Epicurius posted:Kirk totally would have opened that canopy Yeah, you're right.
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Sep 30, 2017 15:17
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Sisko once used biological weapons just to prove a point...
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Sep 30, 2017 15:20
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Snak posted:Sisko once used biological weapons just to prove a point... Between this and assasinating a Romulan senator, Sisko is objectively the best captain. With the best starship.
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Sep 30, 2017 15:22
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Another thing that kind of struck me the wrong way was the helmsman going BOOM. They just killed a ship with presumably a full crew of sentient/sapient beings. Yeah they were justified in doing it but seems like it should've been a little sobering. I don't know if that's more telling of the overall tone of the show, or the conflict between the union and the krills. I think the navigator was saying they had already done a lot of damage to the engines and could take them out before they got blown up themselves, but weren't sure about being able to take out their weapons in time. What I wonder about the Krill, is if they are a centralized enemy in a known conflict, or if they are just raiders/pirates. John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 15:37
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AbstractNapper posted:I mean, I half expected most of the society to go bezerk when the starry sky is revealed because it would be scary for someone who has never seen night and at the same time it would shatter their whole belief system. There's an Isaac Asimov short story that takes place on a planet with multiple suns that only experiences night every several millennia. In the story, a group of scientists discover that every previous civilizational collapse in their history was caused by the darkness and starlight literally driving everyone insane when they see it. The story ends with the scientists looking on in horror as the suns all set and their city burns. It's called "Nightfall." Well Manicured Man fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 15:51
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Oh yes, that one and "A Pail of Air" are in a chilling, sad area of my brain
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Sep 30, 2017 15:54
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WampaLord posted:You really wanna know? This was actually very informative and exactly the answers I needed. Thank you. I don't normally watch youtube videos this long (especially when the subject matter is so negative), but this was even-handed and well-presented.
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Sep 30, 2017 16:07
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Between this and assasinating a Romulan senator, Sisko is objectively the best captain. With the best starship. Seriously. The Defiant is a tough little ship.
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Sep 30, 2017 16:16
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CobiWann posted:Seriously. The Defiant is a tough little ship.
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Sep 30, 2017 16:16
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Family Guy is a garbage fire so big you can see it from space. It's horrifying. The Orville: decent pictures doesn't make up for the holocaust
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Sep 30, 2017 16:32
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You think the composers that make the music for this show are huge Jerry Goldsmith admirers? I am continually impressed with it. The music during the docking scene with the colony ship must have been an homage to TMP/V'Ger.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:41
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Frionnel posted:Isaac is kinda grating to me at the moment because he is basically a simpler version of Data. "i'm a robot who doesn't understand idioms" is his whole character at the moment and we haven't seen any of the legendary racism of his species. I hope he becomes better after his own episode. That bit worked for me since I do know people who take being called a dick as a compliment. Kazinsal posted:Man I am just continuously mindblown by the fact that I am a fan of a Seth MacFarlane show this is insaaaane I never would've thought it could happen, but here it is. I love this show.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:42
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Zaphod42 posted:The Orville: decent pictures doesn't make up for the holocaust TV discussion has gotten real
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Sep 30, 2017 18:40
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FELD1 posted:This was actually very informative and exactly the answers I needed. Thank you. I don't normally watch youtube videos this long (especially when the subject matter is so negative), but this was even-handed and well-presented. Yea I thought he did an amazing job explaining the flaws in the film, glad you enjoyed it! 
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Sep 30, 2017 18:45
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Well Manicured Man posted:There's an Isaac Asimov short story that takes place on a planet with multiple suns that only experiences night every several millennia. In the story, a group of scientists discover that every previous civilizational collapse in their history was caused by the darkness and starlight literally driving everyone insane when they see it. The story ends with the scientists looking on in horror as the suns all set and their city burns. Interesting. Thanks for this, I will check it out.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:27
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I like the bits of humor/lightheartedness sprinkled all over it. No one is as professional and diplomatic as in TNG.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:34
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So even though the last episode exceeded my expectations I still think most of the jokes detract from the show with how jarring yet perfunctory they tend to be. Having a lot of humor would be fine if it was all character based and there was at most one wisecracker (and his or her quips were actually clever) but the way it is now is just Whedonesque where it's half-assed and out of place and puts distance between you and what's happening. I'm one of the people with a strong prejudice against Seth MacFarlane so I personally believe it'd be fixed if he just had an executive producer role instead of a direct creative one. Yes he's got the right vision for what the show should be, but it sounds like everyone else involved also totally gets optimistic sci-fi so they could handle it without any more than the broadest of guidance from him.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:42
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Just realised that with the '16-going-on-17' clip, we've technically got our musical AND Nazi episode.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:45
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So even though the last episode exceeded my expectations I still think most of the jokes detract from the show with how jarring yet perfunctory they tend to be. Having a lot of humor would be fine if it was all character based and there was at most one wisecracker (and his or her quips were actually clever) but the way it is now is just Whedonesque where it's half-assed and out of place and puts distance between you and what's happening. I had this same thought about the elevator bit and the moment of awkward dumb small talk. I can see why they did it: they're going from one dramatic, serious scene to another dramatic, serious scene... so they need something to give the audience a brief moment to take a break from it. While I think it would've been better if they hadn't included the comedy attempt... the show is still supposed to be a comedy sci-fi thing at the end of the day anyway afaik so idk I'm conflicted.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:46
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I've only seen like 14 minutes total of DS9 but didn't it do a good job with character-based humor? Couldn't they take cues from it?
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Sep 30, 2017 19:55
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I've only seen like 14 minutes total of DS9 but didn't it do a good job with character-based humor? Couldn't they take cues from it? I don't think the first four episodes of DS9 were very funny at all.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:59
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Mike the TV posted:I don't think the first four episodes of DS9 were very funny at all. Bashir talking about frontier medicine and Kira getting pissed was pretty funny. Bashir trying to hit on Dax and not realizing she was 400 years old, also not bad.
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Sep 30, 2017 20:04
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WampaLord posted:You really wanna know? Oh, Morty.
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I feel like this show being able to label itself technically a "comedy" is an asset, because it lets them get away with a lot. They can be as cheesy as they want to be, have some plot holes, drag out old sci-fi tropes, take problematic swipes at controversial social issues... whatever. A lot of people that would usually have problems with these things will give the show a pass because it's flying under the comedy banner. It's a good thing and if done right can give them license to be subversive much in the same way old sci-fi did before it was mainstream.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:What I wonder about the Krill, is if they are a centralized enemy in a known conflict, or if they are just raiders/pirates. That's a good point, I hadn't considered that. From what we've seen, they look fairly militaristic, so I assumed it was a government. If they're space pirates they definitely have their poo poo together. Now that I think about it, we don't necessarily know if the krill are a species or a faction.
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Sep 30, 2017 20:26
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Well the ones that we saw in the pilot were all the same race.
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I assumed from episode 1 that the Krill have some kind of wider organization, since snatching the time-accelerator thing seems like the kind of thing a big organization would do, not a single pirate captain.
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Sep 30, 2017 20:29
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I've only seen like 14 minutes total of DS9 but didn't it do a good job with character-based humor? Couldn't they take cues from it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N22YyheMW-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9tw2mx_gE yup ds9 every so often hit it out of park with humor. as for the episode itself, I keep getting reminded by an old canadian scifi known as starlost. that is not a bad thing. 
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Eiba posted:It's far from perfect. The humor really often fell flat. Being snarky to the security guards was the most tonally "wait, what" moment for me. And things could have stood to be a bit more fleshed out. The theocratic dictatorship just kind of shrugs and evaporates? They built up a really brutal dystopian society and kind of just handwaved the consequences of it. I am not sure even Star Trek solved a society's problems at the end of every episode. Half the time it was "well good luck, we'll be on our way".The Orville is at least sending Union engineers to educate them so it's not like they're hosed. WHY BONER NOW posted:Another thing that kind of struck me the wrong way was the helmsman going BOOM. They just killed a ship with presumably a full crew of sentient/sapient beings. Yeah they were justified in doing it but seems like it should've been a little sobering. Hell no. Yelling BOOM rules
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Sep 30, 2017 20:39
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Another thing that kind of struck me the wrong way was the helmsman going BOOM. They just killed a ship with presumably a full crew of sentient/sapient beings. Yeah they were justified in doing it but seems like it should've been a little sobering. I don't know if that's more telling of the overall tone of the show, or the conflict between the union and the krills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdhveixpV24
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Sep 30, 2017 20:41
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DS9 had a really good line in crew banter. There's more than a few scenes where they're just sitting around drinking coffee before shift start shooting the breeze.
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Sep 30, 2017 21:10
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Hell no. Yelling BOOM rules Yeah, that was a great moment because it was yet another example of the Orville crew's lack of traditional professionalism. It makes it easier for a rube like me to relate to life on an exploratory spacecraft. These folk are all hopped-up adventurers who like to hang out and drink beers together. If they did an episode where they never left the ship and it was all about crew interactions during space flight, I think I'd be a happy viewer.
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An episode where they all decided to take their time off at the same time so they can have a party. "There really should be a regulation against the entire crew taking their vacations days at the same time, but there doesn't seem to be. What's the worst that could happen?" Only Bortus remains on duty, to avoid his husband and baby. The entire crew gets drunk, and then there's a distress call. They drunk drive ship over there and save the day, but not before causing a major diplomatic incident. The episode ends on a cliffhanger as Ed Mercer is to be court martialed. it's the season finale. edit: Wil Wheaton shows up and tells Seth MacFarlan "You don't deserve to wear that uniform!"
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