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A WaPo article described Donny as "somber" in reading his statement. They've really got to stop doing that. Everything that comes out of his mouth is disingenuous at best, utterly malicious at worst, and will not make any situation better. This is yet another example of a situation that would be bad enough with a level headed person at the helm, but half of America had to vote for a sociopathic retard because spiting people you disagree is more important than anything else.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:01
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Watch people's brains break on the_donald
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Oct 3, 2017 04:03
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psydude posted:Aren't you one of those people who freaks out every time someone brings up skills training as a way to help those people. No? It's not the be-all end-all of solutions but it can definitely help. Unless it's the "skills training and move to the city" thing some people bring up, in which case cool I guess but that's going to run into problems with a) taking people out of these areas, further degrading those that stay/are left into poverty/opioid abuse/meth, b) get a lot of pushback from people that see the "move to the city" part as (arguably) a way of tamping out rural life in America in general, or c) do nothing because it's another program that would be locally funded from a tiny tax base that's already strung thin by the current load. Rural IL, especially downstate IL, has poo poo schools partially in part to the way that IL delegates school funding. Tax incentives to get businesses to locate in rural areas might get the businesses out there but they don't do anything to alleviate the funding issues that lead to sub-par education and even then you're still vying for a smaller pool of workers (many of whom in rural areas will know their labor is worth something because not as many skilled workers exist out there) when these businesses could just as well get a much larger pool of workers in overpopulated city centers/suburbs. It's one of those things where, growing up, I had a searing hatred of the city of Chicago instilled in me, complete with racist dogwhistling about the South Side; now that I'm living around a shitload of city expats trying to better themselves, I end up identifying with those south siders a lot more than "my people" (read: the whites) from the North Side. There is a pervasive problem of racism in rural America; it ain't like we're all some sort of "Deliverance" pig-fuckers but most of my experience in the rural US is incredibly white. My hometown was 99.7% white, for gently caress's sake. I've been denied apartments for being Italian (read: white as gently caress but Italian last name) in southern IL. But exposure to diversity for certain periods of time can temper and eventually eliminate that racism, and not everyone has it. "Those people" (edit: the second "those people") that you talk about are "my people," as much as a younger Bling might have tried to distance himself from them. And back home, guns are fuckin' important. I went to high school with kids that literally had to go out with their dads/uncles and hunt for food so they didn't starve over the winter. And a lot of us that were riding the median income came from families that had been at that point. For reference, median family income in my hometown is $35,339, median household income (including non-families) is $27,177, and per capita income is $15,787. If you're making $60k in southern IL you're considered "rich." Parts of my family do really well, parts of my family are barely scraping by. All of them own guns because with one bad crop or a mining accident they'd be hosed for food otherwise. And a lot of them would vote for more leftist politicians if the neo-libs didn't beat the "gun control/gun ban" drums. And while a lot of us own old guns that are family heirlooms, with the current prices most of my hometown buddies have been picking up AR-15s, because they're good home defense/varmint guns that are fun as hell to plink with and the ammo isn't that expensive. My home and "my people" are those that can, do, and will believe the old adage "God made men, but Samuel Colt made men equal." And every single one of them would have no problem killing people that came for their guns. So, how do we fix these mass shootings without gun bans or otherwise eliminating the 2A while also helping to preserve rural America? Professor Bling fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 04:12
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm a deontologist and most people are consequentialists. "The problems are bad, but their causes...their causes are very good."
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Oct 3, 2017 04:14
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That's loving great. As far as hilarious documents thats right up there with the goon grandad who managed to get a all times / all areas pass to the some supply area in WW2
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Oct 3, 2017 04:16
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Psychopathy is a highly heritable genetic trait so despite the fact that his father didn't raise him, the Vegas shooter had psychopathy in his DNA. I bet if you dig into his past deep enough you'll find domestic violence towards his exes, death threats, enemies with mysteriously slashed tires, embezzled funds, missing neighborhood pets, etc. These guys tend to have a trail of violent anti-social actions behind them. Wouldn't be surprised if this guy had murdered people before.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:23
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Talking to my mom tonight, she effectively opened the conversation with "at least it wasn't terrorism" at which point I tried my best to explain how domestic terrorism is a thing and that international terrorism may be scary but not something to rationally worry about.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:25
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Professor Bling posted:So, how do we fix these mass shootings without gun bans or otherwise eliminating the 2A while also helping to preserve rural America? Create a post scarcity society with excellent social services as well as the ability to cure sociopathy.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:26
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M_Gargantua posted:Talking to my mom tonight, she effectively opened the conversation with "at least it wasn't terrorism" at which point I tried my best to explain how domestic terrorism is a thing and that international terrorism may be scary but not something to rationally worry about. Nothing wrong with that, if most people are surprised (like your mum) by domestic terrorism, that's loving *good*. That really sounds wrong but you all know what I mean.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:28
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KildarX posted:Create a post scarcity society with excellent social services as well as the ability to cure sociopathy. This is literally what I've been working on the last 10 years. Slight problem, natural resources are kind of important. Kind of. Gimme about 20 years.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:30
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KildarX posted:Create a post scarcity society with excellent social services as well as the ability to cure sociopathy. Star Trek Federation-style post scarcity socialism/communism is the goal, but poo poo's gotta start somewhere. The biggest mistake the American left ever made was letting the right win the rural culture war in regards to politics.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:32
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timma85 posted:Watch people's brains break on the_donald Don't post stupid poo poo like this please
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Oct 3, 2017 04:34
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Doc Hawkins posted:"The problems are bad, but their causes...their causes are very good."
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Oct 3, 2017 04:41
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Zeris posted:Don't post stupid poo poo like this please I thought it was funny.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:42
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Professor Bling posted:So, how do we fix these mass shootings without gun bans or otherwise eliminating the 2A while also helping to preserve rural America? Burn the Republican party down and let politics get back to normal is a good start and basically the necessary first step to any other possible solution to the problem. Right now it doesn't matter if Jesus himself came down surrounded by angels and handed the world an absolutely perfect solution with no possible negative consequences, they'll scream bloody murder on Fox and slash it's funding to give their reelection campaign donors another tax cut.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:44
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Smiling Jack posted:That's loving great. Saved it for posterity... 
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Oct 3, 2017 04:50
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Real talk for a second- poo poo like Vegas reaffirms my choice to always carry a TQ and assorted FA stuff.
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Oct 3, 2017 04:53
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Saved it for posterity... just loving amazing o7
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Oct 3, 2017 04:54
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M_Gargantua posted:Talking to my mom tonight, she effectively opened the conversation with "at least it wasn't terrorism" at which point I tried my best to explain how domestic terrorism is a thing and that international terrorism may be scary but not something to rationally worry about. It's not really terrorism if there isn't a political objective. Did they find his anti-music-festival manifesto?
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bird food bathtub posted:Burn the Republican party down and let politics get back to normal is a good start and basically the necessary first step to any other possible solution to the problem. Right now it doesn't matter if Jesus himself came down surrounded by angels and handed the world an absolutely perfect solution with no possible negative consequences, they'll scream bloody murder on Fox and slash it's funding to give their reelection campaign donors another tax cut. Agreed, but how do you do that without alienating the voters you're trying to reach, or making them believe that they're under attack? As far as I know, the most effective way to do this would be to have orgs like Redneck Revolt (and other leftist orgs that can visibly share "controversial" rural values like "guns are good") get the word out much more and try to get people involved within them; RR itself has been somewhat successful at counter-recruiting from III%er militias to the point to where one III%er group, after counter-recruitment efforts by RR, ended up going in (as unarmed support/on-site medic roles) to support a BLM march in North Carolina. I get a little heated when people just dismiss rural Americans out of hand as "ignorant hicks" because that's just going to continue to dig the chasm we call the "urban/rural divide" that's helping drive some/a lot of this poo poo.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:01
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bulletsponge13 posted:Real talk for a second- poo poo like Vegas reaffirms my choice to always carry a TQ and assorted FA stuff. A what
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Oct 3, 2017 05:11
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Tourniquet and First Aid stuff, I'm guessing. Honestly, not a bad idea.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:12
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Mr. Mambold posted:Why is George even getting up in his grill about this? He wants to knock out the fat.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:14
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I've got a waist pack with a small trauma kit (Quikclot, pad, gauze) and a tourniquet that I got off of amazon for $20. Granted i've never had reason to bring it with me out of the house for anything besides dirtbiking and camping.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:20
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Dead Reckoning posted:Eh, more like "if following your principles/the rules isn't getting the results you want, you should either reconsider your principles or reconsider what you want." If your principles are flexible in order to achieve the results you deem good, you don't actually have principles. Seems like principles are definitely getting the desired results to me. (this is a map of gun deaths)
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Oct 3, 2017 05:22
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^What is that?Terrifying Effigies posted:Saved it for posterity... That's his "It fell off the back of a ship" face.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:22
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I'd be afraid of getting incapacitated, having some idiot find the tourniquet and deciding they know how to use it. Of course if they're that dumb you're probably dead anyway.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:23
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Godholio posted:^What is that? Gun deaths per capita at the county level.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:26
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Professor Bling posted:
I live in the sticks and all my neighbors are stupid enough to think that they are the smart ones and everyone else is stupid. I mean these people look down on school.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:27
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bird cooch posted:I live in the sticks and all my neighbors are stupid enough to think that they are the smart ones and everyone else is stupid. What morons. I'm the smart one and they're all dumb.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:30
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Saved it for posterity... the face says "I'm not sure if this is gonna be a fart or a shart, hope noone notices"
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Oct 3, 2017 05:30
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Chichevache posted:What morons. I'm the smart one and they're all dumb. poo poo, same Also my neighbor used to call me dr.science because I would explain things. By looking them up.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:31
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Sergg posted:Gun deaths per capita at the county level. that data is presented in a manner that is a wee bit misleading.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:33
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its all moot since the 2nd is pretty ironclad with our current judiciary. that you cant actually make an argument that guns make us safer or that the tyranny ship long since sailed is just icing on a cake we don't get to eat.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:33
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Proud Christian Mom posted:its all moot since the 2nd is pretty ironclad with our current judiciary. Doesn't stop the NRA from beating that drum though and holding out their hands for cash!
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Oct 3, 2017 05:35
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vains posted:that data is presented in a manner that is a wee bit misleading. Very,. I'm curious about the source. Godholio fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 05:37
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Petty is dead for real now.
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Yeah, really, actually dead. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/entertainment/tom-petty-obit/index.html
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