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WHY BONER NOW posted:Seth Mcfarland's best moment in the series so far is when that one bortus in episode 3 wanted to take Orville Bortus and Klyden on his ship and Mcfarland told him to gently caress off. That was the kind of captaining you can really get behind What I love about this, and it's a small thing, is that for a lot of newer shows, they would "forget" the in-universe consistency for the sake of drama. He told the Moclan to gently caress off, and said "look, you're part of The Star Trek would absolutely go into legalize about The Federation that way. But I could see a lot of new shows not wanting to get bogged down in politics continuity and just way "yeah, have their planet threaten The Orville militarily, that'd be cool!" And the viewers would be like "huh?" This shows he's really thinking about the world he's building.
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Oct 5, 2017 03:48
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[quote="“Eiba”" post="“477066398”"] Oh, she was Furiosa? Cool. Didn’t recognize her. [/quote] I can sympathise. It's hard to focus on anything else in that movie when you have Nicholas Hoult standing around shirtless the whole time.
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Oct 5, 2017 04:29
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Context please.
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Oct 5, 2017 05:33
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Context please. That was Scarlett Johansson getting groped by some douche at the golden globes in 2006. https://www.today.com/popculture/no-apologies-isaac-mizrahi-wbna11486717 Not sure what that has to do with Charlize Theron. Or maybe it’s something to do with the trailer for the next episode, which I haven’t watched..?
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Oct 5, 2017 06:53
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I finally got around to finishing episode 4-- and drat this show would be 100000% better if Seth McFarlane was switched roles with his ex wife character. Him being the #1 on the ship would be far better than him being captain, especially with the dynamic of his ex wife being his boss. Also, jeez the lighting on this show. There is just something... off about it. It makes the show seem cheap. jeeves fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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Oct 5, 2017 07:11
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jeeves posted:Also, jeez the lighting on this show. There is just something... off about it. It makes the show seem cheap. It's deliberately evoking the flat lighting from TNG. Which looks cheap, but I think that's kind of the point.
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Oct 5, 2017 07:50
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The_Doctor posted:Preview for the next ep: Alara lost her eyebrows again? Probably a production order thing or a shot from an earlier episode. She looks better with them.
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Oct 5, 2017 08:48
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Nestorix posted:Alara lost her eyebrows again? Probably a production order thing or a shot from an earlier episode. She looks better with them. I think she looks better without them but looks crazy hot with them. Seems like her character is human-with-strongness rather than anything really alien so makes sense to stick with the eyebrows.
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Oct 5, 2017 11:28
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What if she just shaves her eyebrows irregularly and if she forgot for a few weeks she'd look like Leonid Brezhnev
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Oct 5, 2017 13:09
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I hope they retcon her ability to suck her eyebrows back into her forehead at will, just to explain the continuity error
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Oct 5, 2017 15:30
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One thing about this show that I'm not sold on is that the plots they're dealing with seem more appropriate to a show in its 3rd or 4th season than the first. TNG could hit the ground running because it had a well established world to play in. I get that Orville is basically piggybacking off its intended audience's familiarity with the Trek universe, that's fine, but I don't think that the characters are established enough that the plots dealing specifically with them are earned enough. We don't know much about Alara when she gets put in command and struggles with it; compare that to the season six TNG episode where Troi gets "put in command" and struggles with it. Since we know about Troi's character, we know why she's struggling with the decisions and the ultimate resolution is interesting because it requires the character to act contrary to her normal patterns. We don't know much about Alara, so the payoff is lessened. Likewise, the Bortas child plot would have had a lot more impact if we knew more about the character, knew more about his culture and knew more about his relationship with his mate. Now, the allegorical "ripped from the headlines" plot could not be more Star Trek so it was still good, but it felt like the show was expecting the audience to meet it more than halfway when it comes to character arcs in individual episodes.
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Oct 5, 2017 15:59
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It's a Fox show, they have to hit the ground running or they'll get cancelled.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:07
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Eh, I think we know enough about Alara(young, inexperienced, fast tracked through academy) we can accept a trouble dealing with command episode, and get having to balance earning the crews respect versus showing them who's in command. Honestly it speaks poorly to Troi we didn't really know anything about her until season six other than: likes ice cream, terrified of dealing with her mother, used to date Riker.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:24
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Kurieg posted:It's a Fox show, they have to hit the ground running or they'll get cancelled. I miss Andy Richter Controls the Universe.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:25
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Eh, I think we know enough about Alara(young, inexperienced, fast tracked through academy) we can accept a trouble dealing with command episode, and get having to balance earning the crews respect versus showing them who's in command. Honestly it speaks poorly to Troi we didn't really know anything about her until season six other than: likes ice cream, terrified of dealing with her mother, used to date Riker. may or may not be telepathetic
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Oct 5, 2017 16:27
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Its going to turn out that shaving eyebrows is Alara's species equivalent of shaving your legs and she is their version of a second wave feminist.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:32
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Ofaloaf posted:What if she just shaves her eyebrows irregularly and if she forgot for a few weeks she'd look like Leonid Brezhnev  ?
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Oct 5, 2017 16:55
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Maybe this is actually the episode that was second in production order, if her eyebrows are gone again.
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Oct 5, 2017 17:14
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Maybe this is actually the episode that was second in production order, if her eyebrows are gone again. I'm hoping Alara with eyebrows is actually Mirror Universe Alara. She's not evil or anything, she teamed up with regular Alara and they sometimes switch places.
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Oct 5, 2017 17:16
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Snak posted:I'm hoping Alara with eyebrows is actually Mirror Universe Alara. She's not evil or anything, she teamed up with regular Alara and they sometimes switch places. Mirror Universe Orville could take a page out of the Seinfeld paybook and make the mirrors do-gooders. Give them all ridiculous sideburns or handlebar mustaches.
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Oct 5, 2017 17:31
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:I miss Andy Richter Controls the Universe. I miss Firefly. There, I said it.  eyebeem posted:Mirror Universe Orville could take a page out of the Seinfeld paybook and make the mirrors do-gooders. Give them all ridiculous sideburns or handlebar mustaches. This is a good idea.
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Oct 5, 2017 17:59
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zoux posted:One thing about this show that I'm not sold on is that the plots they're dealing with seem more appropriate to a show in its 3rd or 4th season than the first. TNG could hit the ground running because it had a well established world to play in. I get that Orville is basically piggybacking off its intended audience's familiarity with the Trek universe, that's fine, but I don't think that the characters are established enough that the plots dealing specifically with them are earned enough. We don't know much about Alara when she gets put in command and struggles with it; compare that to the season six TNG episode where Troi gets "put in command" and struggles with it. Since we know about Troi's character, we know why she's struggling with the decisions and the ultimate resolution is interesting because it requires the character to act contrary to her normal patterns. We don't know much about Alara, so the payoff is lessened. Likewise, the Bortas child plot would have had a lot more impact if we knew more about the character, knew more about his culture and knew more about his relationship with his mate. Now, the allegorical "ripped from the headlines" plot could not be more Star Trek so it was still good, but it felt like the show was expecting the audience to meet it more than halfway when it comes to character arcs in individual episodes. What are you talking about? Nothing in universe needs to be known for these situations. We know as much as the characters do. When Alara takes command, everything is new for her as she just started her career, just as everything there is new for us. When the Bortuses do their thing, we don't know anything about their culture yet, just as most of the crew don't know much yet either. I'd agree with you if they put something new into the show as if we should have already known about it, but they haven't.
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Oct 5, 2017 18:07
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eyebeem posted:Mirror Universe Orville could take a page out of the Seinfeld paybook and make the mirrors do-gooders. Give them all ridiculous sideburns or handlebar mustaches. Mirror Universe Orville should just be the cast of Seinfeld.
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Oct 5, 2017 18:08
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swickles posted:Its going to turn out that shaving eyebrows is Alara's species equivalent of shaving your legs and she is their version of a second wave feminist. Yeah, betting that the eyebrows will be acknowledged in the show somehow.
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Oct 5, 2017 19:35
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Eh, I think we know enough about Alara(young, inexperienced, fast tracked through academy) we can accept a trouble dealing with command episode, and get having to balance earning the crews respect versus showing them who's in command. Honestly it speaks poorly to Troi we didn't really know anything about her until season six other than: likes ice cream, terrified of dealing with her mother, used to date Riker. Gets a seat in the middle of the command bridge despite just being the therapist.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:25
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Jellicoe was right to make her wear a standard uniform imo.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:36
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zoux posted:Jellicoe was right to make her wear a standard uniform imo. Jellicoe was right about a lot of things, TBH.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:40
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Four shifts is just better. Everyone gets more downtime. gently caress you Riker.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:41
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Bruceski posted:Gets a seat in the middle of the command bridge despite just being the therapist. She was originally going to have 4 breasts. I think we know why Gene wanted her front and centre.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:43
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Four shifts is just better. Everyone gets more downtime. gently caress you Riker. Unsurprising that DS9 adopted it without much trouble.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:47
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Four shifts is just better. Everyone gets more downtime. gently caress you Riker. THERE. ARE. FOUR. SHIFTS.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:51
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Pakled posted:Unsurprising that DS9 adopted it without much trouble. The days there were 26 hours long!
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Oct 5, 2017 20:53
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Four shifts is just better. Everyone gets more downtime. gently caress you Riker. I don't even understand why Riker objected to it. "Our people need more sleep, we have a lot of people, so run 4 six hour shifts." "gently caress YOU DAD! WE'RE GONNA RUN 8 HOUR SHIFTS WITH NO BREAKS! I'LL SHOW YOU!" When I first watched that episode, I figured the lines must have been backwards or something and that it should have been Jellicoe demanding 3 shifts and Riker saying people wouldn't be able to handle the extra workload.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:01
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Cojawfee posted:I don't even understand why Riker objected to it. "Our people need more sleep, we have a lot of people, so run 4 six hour shifts." "gently caress YOU DAD! WE'RE GONNA RUN 8 HOUR SHIFTS WITH NO BREAKS! I'LL SHOW YOU!" When I first watched that episode, I figured the lines must have been backwards or something and that it should have been Jellicoe demanding 3 shifts and Riker saying people wouldn't be able to handle the extra workload. 90s TV writers didn't actually know what a shift was, and assumed more was bad.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:03
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I don't actually know very much about scheduling so I could be way wrong but wouldn't a four-shift schedule either mean you have fewer people active per shift, more common double-shifts in people's schedules, or a dreadful-sounding six-on six-off pattern happening sometimes?
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Oct 5, 2017 21:05
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Bruceski posted:Gets a seat in the middle of the command bridge despite just being the therapist. What do you think Yar and Worf's reaction was when they first stepped on the bridge and asked where they sit?
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Oct 5, 2017 21:11
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cheetah7071 posted:I don't actually know very much about scheduling so I could be way wrong but wouldn't a four-shift schedule either mean you have fewer people active per shift, more common double-shifts in people's schedules, or a dreadful-sounding six-on six-off pattern happening sometimes? The enterprise can hold a poo poo ton of people. Plus a lot of the stations seem kind of redundant. If you look at a diagram of the bridge, there are stations for like science officer 3, and tactical station 4. Plus Beverly showed you can fly the ship with just one person apparently. So you might lose one or two people per shift, or maybe people just don't get days off during the war time situation, so people who would normally have a day off or whatever, are now part of the fourth shift.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:11
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That's why you have a dog watch. Nobody has regular double shifts.
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Also made it sound like he was just going to run the engineering department into the ground with exhaustion (didn't he basically order to them to all work around the clock to put in some modifications?) which on the one hand seems like a bad idea for people working on a ship with dangerous machinery, but on the other hand sounds 100% authentic to what the Navy does presently
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