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COMRADES posted:And what happens the next time China does something? I don't know, I don't have a crystal ball and neither do you. Invest if you want, don't if you don't. Don't act like you know it's a scam and don't tell people they'll lose if they invest. That's the loving point. quote:How? That's still true. It's clearly not true because hedge funds are mining coins now and they weren't previously. And more and more countries and retailers are accepting them as payment. This is just as fake as the claims that the exchanges are inherently a scam and yet you keep repeating it.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:11 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:28 |
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How many bitcoins can I buy with a dollar?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:12 |
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Fantastic Flyer posted:How many bitcoins can I buy with a dollar? Search Results 1 US Dollar equals 0.00023 Bitcoin
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:12 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:I don't know, I don't have a crystall ball and neither do you. YEAH That's my point!!! So why the gently caress would I buy BTC right now which may or may not crater at any moment instead of XAR which has returned 42% in the last year to date with no risk at all of the government deciding one day to outlaw the military industry?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:12 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:This is 10000% incompatible with your past advice warning people to stay the gently caress away at all costs because it's a scam with no inherent value only used for money laundering!!!!! scam... check. pyramid scheme no inherent value... big old check there only used for money laundering... basically yep
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:13 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:And more and more countries ... are accepting them as payment. Citation needed. Nowhere in the world can you pay your taxes with BTC. In fact your BTC plays result in a USD tax obligation (assuming you are in the USA).
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:13 |
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COMRADES posted:YEAH Do whatever you want, don't tell other people that BTC is a scam as if you have some way of loving knowing that. Like, go ahead and bet on XAR. Don't go and talk about how much better it is than BTC as if you have some crystal ball because you don't know, you're just guessing and making your bet like anyone else. And maybe don't go on the internet and be like "AND IF YOU INVEST IN BTC YOU ARE loving DUMB" because it's just other people looking at it differently than you HTH
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:14 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Nice chart, that ends in May and now it's October.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:14 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:10000%!!!!! This guy being wrong and being unable to make useful predictions can't qualify risk or figure out which factors are casual and which are irrelevant empirically yep
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:15 |
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Excellent and now with a bunch of history it becomes clear: Ah so perhaps there was a period of anomalous trading??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? And then something happened that changed the trading activity???????????????????????????????????? And it settled into a new pattern??????????????????????????????????????????? What do you think? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:15 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Do whatever you want, don't tell other people that BTC is a scam as if you have some way of loving knowing that. Some loving way of knowing that........ like it is totally run by Chinese mining conglomerates and every single major exchange has been hacked/shut down/robbed? Ham Sandwiches posted:Like, go ahead and bet on XAR. It's better. hth. The entire point of risk analysis is to hedge against lovely bets like you are making.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:15 |
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Nice chart, that ends in May and now it's October. What do you think happened since then??? Hmm?? *preemptively owns you assuming ill be proven right later because i dont know what im talking about* -ham sandwiches
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:16 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Excellent and now with a bunch of history it becomes clear: I think you're super mad about this for unknown reasons and also it is funny how wrong you are.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:17 |
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COMRADES posted:Some loving way of knowing that........ like it is totally run by Chinese mining conglomerates and every single major exchange has been hacked/shut down/robbed? For those with the appetite for risk to speculate in emerging currencies, acting like warning them off speculative investments and steering them towards traditional ones is more sound is super dumb I keep trying to explain to you that whatever good intentions you have just use them to gently caress up your own investments, don't spread the love
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:17 |
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COMRADES posted:I think you're super mad about this for unknown reasons and also it is funny how wrong you are. What do you see in the chart, bro?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:17 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:For those with the appetite for risk to speculate in emerging currencies, acting like warning them off speculative investments and steering them towards traditional ones is more sound is super dumb Emerging currencies lmao you don't even know what a currency is. Ham Sandwiches posted:What do you see in the chart, bro? The same thing I see in tea leaves.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:17 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:Nice chart, that ends in May and now it's October. I wanted the extra data bro to explain that it wasn't a decline it has stayed that way as the price has gone up and up, you don't even know what point I'm trying to make This is a joke dude how can you post like this
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:18 |
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COMRADES posted:
Why pull this coy bullshit? What does the chart tell you, risk management expert, maybe try two sentences see if you can manage?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:20 |
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Not saying that chart is wrong, but it doesn't match this chart: from https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:21 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:This guy being wrong and being unable to make useful predictions you cried about goons warning against investing in bitcoin in the past and comrades pointed out that since then 70% of volume got stolen in only a single incident. that means you might as well multiply your imaginary profits by 0 right off that bat you dope Uranium 235 posted:Not saying that chart is wrong, but it doesn't match this chart:
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:22 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Why pull this coy bullshit? What does the chart tell you, risk management expert, maybe try two sentences see if you can manage? It means reading charts is for suckers and there is no useful information to be gleaned. Why are you so mad?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:22 |
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Zerilan posted:Trade volume in btc's the lowest it's been in like 4 years and took like a 95% drop the moment Chinese bots stopped trading with each other lol Ham Sandwiches posted:I believe your information may be secondhand and out of date. If it's not I'm real interested to read more details about this exploded mummy posted:
Ham Sandwiches posted:Ah so the resumption of normal trading while bitcoin has been appreciating for the past 6 months once the 4 month period of anomalous trading came to an end, as they tend to do. BENGHAZI 2 posted:normal trading my dude its at its lowest point in two years also people did in fact explain the drop in trading volume ~time passes~ exploded mummy posted:*looks at trade volumes ever since China started it's crackdown back in January* Ham Sandwiches posted:Nice chart, that ends in May and now it's October. Ham Sandwiches posted:Excellent and now with a bunch of history it becomes clear: lol
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:23 |
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I would not buy a bitcoin, Sam I am. Even after listening to the words Of sandwiches made of ham, Whom I suspect are full of turds.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:24 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:every post you make has you getting vaguer and vaguer as anyone who bothers to reply to you turns your sore rear end out because youre defending bitcoin as a longterm investment which is as stupid as it gets "I'm not wrong" repeats guy that claims BTC are a lovely scam as they keep appreciating and gaining in acceptance "I'm not wrong!!! So many people agreed with me!! Made fun of fedora redditors and MT Gox!" Anyway dude I'm sorry that you're so wrong and unable to predict valid investments seeing risks and ghosts and goblins where none exist. It must be a frightful experience.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:24 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Anyway dude I'm sorry that you're so wrong and unable to predict valid investments seeing risks and ghosts and goblins where none exist. It must be a frightful experience.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:24 |
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One reason those charts don't match is that the first one (that shows a rapid decrease in volume) shows volume in BTC, while the one I posted shows volume in USD. As the price of BTC increases and more people hold onto their BTC, the volume of BTC exchanged should decrease even though the volume in USD value exchanged increases.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:24 |
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Lol you're so mad, Jesus christ. Its not even a lol umad, I'm just honestly marvelling what a tizzy youre in over bitcoins.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:26 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:"I'm not wrong" repeats guy that claims BTC are a lovely scam as they keep appreciating and gaining in acceptance
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:26 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:read the y-axis labels it seems to suggest that coinmarketcap didn't recognize all that volume pre-2017
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:27 |
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exploded mummy posted:~time passes~ The chart you are posting takes a period of anomalous trading activity where the # of coins being traded was very high. Then it implies that the trading drop was horrific and is a complete loss of confidence, liquidity and scale. Except, we know that's not what's happening. The amount of money, in bitcoins, being traded is increasing, which is what the other chart shows. I'm literally telling you your chart is false and misleading. I'm curious: 1. Do you agree? Were you aware that while # of coins being traded is down, the amt of money that represents is up since the coins themselves are worth more? 2. Were you aware that Bitcoin trading is pretty healthy at these new volumes and has remained healthy for months, which your chart now shows, meaning that this drop is probably not an indicator of something serious? 3. How do you reconcile that with how you were representing these charts I know you think you owned me so I'd really like you to explain this part, because it's super interesting to me. I hope you put some real effort into your reply. What are you saying with that chart, explicitly?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:27 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Every single person that said that bitcoins were a scam, had no inherent value, that they were going to collapse, that the exchanges were fake, that you'd lose money mining them, and that it's used for drug transactions / money laundering is as wrong as it is possible to be wrong while still alive Why Ham Sandwiches posted:I'm telling you you're loving stupid and probably shouldn't tell other people how to invest or make money given that this thing you keep calling BS on keeps appreciating, have you considered that? do Ham Sandwiches posted:No, people are free to speculate with their money how they wish. You were sitting there doomsaying it months ago when it was $2500. On what basis did you warn people off this thing that has gotten more liquidity, more trading, more funds, more nation state support, and more valuation the whole time? Because it keeps being proven wrong. you Ham Sandwiches posted:Lmao people were saying you can never make a profit off coins you mine because chinese miners will outdo you. Now you're saying you're better off buying from scam exchanges and not wasting electricity l m a o. care Ham Sandwiches posted:That seems like very realistic success criteria... for someone trying at all costs to avoid admitting they were wrong so Ham Sandwiches posted:Your risk analysis is stupid poo poo that was claiming you knew it was a scam, you weren't even willing to call it a commodity (BECAUSE NO INHERENT VALUE) last time, but here it is lmao this suddenly woke nuanced opinion that wasn't there a few months ago at all?? how did it appear?? a bitcoin mystery much Ham Sandwiches posted:There won't be a single person that will admit to being against Bitcoins despite years of posts to the contrary it's amazing, they vanish like a mirage the more the price goes up about Ham Sandwiches posted:Lmao imagine being this loving wrong, spending months going "HOW MANY DO YOU OWN" and now after being proven wrong retreating to "SO HOW MANY DID YOU BUY!!!" this Ham Sandwiches posted:It means that every single goon prediction about its demise, about how its fundamentals were unsound, the exchanges being rigged were wrong, misleading, and useless. And everyone that perpetrated them is clearly not qualified to advise others re: investments yet did so for years anyway, smugly laughing at how dumb anyone that disagreed with them was. That's pretty incredible stuff, imo. ? Ham Sandwiches posted:Yeah and what if like, he got mugged or lost his wallet containing $100, what happens then? ? Ham Sandwiches posted:Hmm, because my concern is the garbage advice people are giving and not on making a buck?? Which is what I've seen saying the ENTIRE TIME? ! Ham Sandwiches posted:I didn't make predictions that it would go up, I claimed that saying it was a scam that was guaranteed to fail was absolutely premature and that people had no way of knowing that. ?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:28 |
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I thought it was loving stupid listening to lazy bitcoin jokes for a few years, I hated the totally fake way that people constructed a narrative of guarnateed loss and fedora redditors, this is the first opportunity to point out how loving wrong they were, and here we are
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:30 |
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Maybe people should discuss their investments with financial professionals instead of taking advice from GBS?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:31 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:I thought it was loving stupid listening to lazy bitcoin jokes for a few years, I hated the totally fake way that people constructed a narrative of guarnateed loss and fedora redditors, this is the first opportunity to point out how loving wrong they were, and here we are It really is just that you could have been a millionaire by now if not for goons is it? I had that feel once or twice but it is a false mistress.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:32 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Maybe people should discuss their investments with financial professionals instead of taking advice from GBS? Sure, I'll even agree that maybe people should do what they feel is best, including discussing stuff if they so choose or just trying stuff if they also choose?
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:33 |
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Rent: $1200 Internet: $110 Phone: $200 Food: $200 Bitcoins: $3600 Please help with my budget, my family is dying.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:33 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:this is the first opportunity to point out how loving wrong they were, and here we are
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:35 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:lol you do this in every single bitcoin thread and you always think maybe this time will be different and you wont get slapped up but it already happened and you didnt even last an hour Don't tell him about the green forum.
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# ? Oct 5, 2017 22:36 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:lol you do this in every single bitcoin thread and you always think maybe this time will be different and you wont get slapped up but it already happened and you didnt even last an hour ??? I guess the same person that sees Bitcoin as a failing asset and helpfully spreads their useless predictions is also declaring me owned because ... ?? I don't know, he's just sure I am just like bitcoins are a scam *ignores last thread we had this discussion they were $2500 now it's $4k* No no keep telling me how I'm getting owned and you're not wrong
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Ham Sandwiches posted:??? I guess the same person that sees Bitcoin as a failing asset and helpfully spreads their useless predictions is also declaring me owned because ... ?? I don't know, he's just sure I am just like bitcoins are a scam didnt you just say this was the first opportunity to complain about goons regarding bitcoin? but now youre citing previous threads? its almost like youre a perennial bitcoin bitchboy
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