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"Compatible only with its X299 motherboards."  (though the comments seem to suggest it works on X399 Threadripper boards as well)
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Oct 5, 2017 02:27
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BIG HEADLINE posted:"Compatible only with its X299 motherboards." If you're gonna pony up for 4 NVME SSDs, you better have an ASUS x299 MB.
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Just got some SSDs in today. For myself, a 1TB WD Blue with the newer 3D flash in m.2 format. For my girlfriend, a 512GB WD Black to replace an ancient 128GB 830 Evo as her boot device. I've still got an open m.2 slot on my board that is keyed for the full x4 unlike the slot that the Blue filled, but I'm probably going to wait until an nvme 1TB comes down closer to the $300 mark, whenever that may be.
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metallicaeg posted:Just got some SSDs in today. For myself, a 1TB WD Blue with the newer 3D flash in m.2 format. For my girlfriend, a 512GB WD Black to replace an ancient 128GB 830 Evo as her boot device. Microcenter had the 960 EVO 1TB for $339 less than a week ago - everyone bought them out in less than 48 hours. They've got it SKUed back up for $469, making me wonder if it was a price mistake.
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anyone have any experience setting up Intel Smart Response Technology to cache a hard drive? I'd like to set up the following storage setup based on me having salvaged an extra SSD (the Samsung):
I have an Asus Maximus VII Gene and will be running Windows 10 and Ubuntu; Ubuntu lives on its own SSD. Will this work? How do I go about doing it? Will I need to reinstall Windows?
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I just got a SSD for my computer. I also realized I have no idea how they work or how to set it up. Like all I thought was to plug it into the slot of my Desktop that it fit into, but I have no idea if that did anything. So felt this was the best place to ask for help.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I just got a SSD for my computer. I also realized I have no idea how they work or how to set it up. Like all I thought was to plug it into the slot of my Desktop that it fit into, but I have no idea if that did anything. Most makers provide a cloning software (if they didn't there's always Macrium Reflect), but if your HDD is larger/fuller than the SSD you'll want to put Windows on, you're usually better off loading Windows fresh onto the SSD.
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Oct 7, 2017 01:43
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Most makers provide a cloning software (if they didn't there's always Macrium Reflect), but if your HDD is larger/fuller than the SSD you'll want to put Windows on, you're usually better off loading Windows fresh onto the SSD. Yeah but I am utterly inept how do I even do this.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah but I am utterly inept how do I even do this. First, which SSD did you buy, which capacity did you buy it in, and how much is on your boot/C: drive now. After that, the way it works is that you plug the drive into a free port and get it its own power lead, initialize it, and then use the maker-sponsored cloning tool or Macrium Reflect to clone over the contents of your boot drive (if they'd fit) to the SSD. Then you just disconnect the HDD and boot as normal, being awed by the speed at which your computer now does so. If your boot drive is too large to clone to the SSD, you download ProduKey to get the CD-Keys of all your Microsoft software, back up all your documents and important stuff to a thumb drive, and load a fresh copy of Windows onto the SSD, then Office, then everything else, and eventually you use your old HDD for bulk storage.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:First, which SSD did you buy, which capacity did you buy it in, and how much is on your boot/C: drive now. Toshiba 1TB 2.5" SATA III Internal Solid State Hybrid Drive it was called, So 1 Terabyte Capacity. 97.3 Gigs in use on /C Anyway not sure how I initialize it. Or make sure it's getting power. Like I plugged it into the area I think it's supposed to be in. And there were plugs comming out of it. Edit:But were those plugs plugged in. I should check. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Toshiba 1TB 2.5" SATA III Internal Solid State Hybrid Drive it was called, So 1 Terabyte Capacity. 97.3 Gigs in use on /C Even most OEM PCs (like a Dell, HP, etc.) have a spare SATA power lead hanging idle in the case - the drive itself might or might not have come with an SATA cable. This is what the end of an SATA power lead looks like:  And this is what an SATA data cable looks like, and what it plugs into on the motherboard:   Both cables only fit into drives one way, so there's no risk of getting them backwards. (yours might be vertical - ports are ports are ports, but you're going to want to make sure you're plugging it into an SATA III port, which means perhaps finding your computer's manual or checking the motherboard diagram somewhere) Typically the cloning software (whether it's the version the maker gave you or Macrium Reflect) has the ability to initialize the drive for you during the cloning process. The way *that* goes is that you select your current HDD as the source disk, and the newly-initialized SSD as the *target* disk, and do a 1:1 clone over. Since you'll only be using ~10% of the drive this should take very little time. Once the process is done, shut down the PC and just disconnect the SATA power lead to your old HDD - the reason you want to do this is so you ensure Windows boots off the new SSD and doesn't get confused when it sees two identical Master Boot Records. Once you know for sure everything is working correctly, you can reconnect the old HDD and format it, giving it a new drive letter and using it as bulk storage. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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It looks like everything is hooked in properly. Just going to get the cloning tool ready. And copy it to the SSD.
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Oct 7, 2017 02:44
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MonsterEnvy posted:It looks like everything is hooked in properly. Toshiba uses a software called NTI to clone: http://www.nticorp.com/en/us/store/...3ToshibaSpecial Macrium Reflect will work as well. The thing to keep in mind here is that there is no way to gently caress this up. Even if the cloning doesn't work, you can always just disconnect the SSD's power lead and boot off the HDD as normal. No data is erased, only cloned/copied. And no, you'll want the cloning tool loaded onto the HDD. The HDD is the source disk, and when the SSD is initialized, it'll delete all the data on that disk to get it ready to receive the data. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Toshiba uses a software called NTI to clone: http://www.nticorp.com/en/us/store/...3ToshibaSpecial Thanks. The fact the SSD was hot when I opened up my computer makes me assume that power was running thorugh it when the computer was on previously. Anyway you have been a big help will report if I need help still.
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K NTI does not appear to be working for me so going to try Reflect. NTi is detecting the SSD so I now know for sure it's plugged in properly. The issue is that NTI refuses to clone stuff there. Asking me to select a path in the folder tree when there is none.
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MonsterEnvy posted:K NTI does not appear to be working for me so going to try Reflect. Well, NTI says it works with Toshiba SSDs, but there's a chance that might be *old* Toshiba SSDs. Macrium is a "one size fits all" app - and remember, you're not doing anything that can't be redone without any damage. Worse comes to worse, you just disconnect the SSD and boot off the HDD you know works perfectly well.
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K it's cloning.
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Macrium Reflect didn't work for me for ?reasons?. It cloned but didn't boot giving me the Bootmgr error because Windows don't like moving disks. If you have a Samsung their utility has like 3 buttons to push and off to the races you go.
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K it all worked. But now my computer feels slow. I did not unplug HDD just changed the boot order in Bios so I think I will do that instead.
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MonsterEnvy posted:K it all worked. But now my computer feels slow. I did not unplug HDD just changed the boot order in Bios so I think I will do that instead. You can "Unplug" the HDD logically, no need to open the case.
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oohhboy posted:You can "Unplug" the HDD logically, no need to open the case. How is that done.
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Also for some reason it says the OS is the same size despite the SSD being much bigger.
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MonsterEnvy posted:How is that done. In the http://smallbusiness.chron.com/bios-setting-disable-sata-70772.html Here you go. Even if you don't set the new startup disk it should search for the next boot disk down the list assuming there isn't another two Windows as that juts confuses windows from my experience because Bootmgr is dumb.
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Is this stuff the way it should be with the cloning. (I have no idea what the Red Area is but it's part of the D Drive which does not matter right now. I think.) I am unsure of how to use the grey 800 gigs.
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When did you buy this? I didn’t know Toshiba still made hybrid disks.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:When did you buy this? I didn’t know Toshiba still made hybrid disks. Monday.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I am unsure of how to use the grey 800 gigs. Probably you can extend the C drive in disk manager (control panel, administrative tools, computer management, disk manager) or just make a new partition to use that gray area.
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Volguus posted:Probably you can extend the C drive in disk manager (control panel, administrative tools, computer management, disk manager) or just make a new partition to use that gray area. Thanks that worked.
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Oh wait, it's a *hybrid* disk? Yeah, that's not an SSD. It's a slow HDD with a big cache.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Oh wait, it's a *hybrid* disk? Yeah, that's not an SSD. It's a slow HDD with a big cache. That would explain why I got it cheap.
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Guess once I get an actual SSD at least I know what to do now.
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What is the recommendation on external drives? I want to get one for travelling to backup photos. Looking at 128 or 250 Gb most likely and will buy a Orico USB3 case or something for it to go in. Unless an off the shelf option is actually better?
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Red_Fred posted:What is the recommendation on external drives? I want to get one for travelling to backup photos. Looking at 128 or 250 Gb most likely and will buy a Orico USB3 case or something for it to go in. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147642 Review of the above: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/samsung-portable-ssd-t5 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-extreme-500-240gb-external-usb-3-0-portable-ssd-black/4290140.p?skuId=4290140 BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Oct 8, 2017 |
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Red_Fred posted:What is the recommendation on external drives? I want to get one for travelling to backup photos. Looking at 128 or 250 Gb most likely and will buy a Orico USB3 case or something for it to go in. I have two 500gb ssd’s In Orico usb 3 cases, they’re great and we’re way cheaper than off the shelf.
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If I do my own enclosure, can I encrypt the drive? That would be handy I guess.
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I remembered I had a spare 40gb SSD 330 lying around. now my computer has four SSDs and three of them are nestled in a snake nest of power cabling underneath the mobo. successfully switched poo poo over from AHCI to RAID, got Windows to boot, may have nuked my Linux install, and set up SRT caching on the 40gb drive for the hard drive. it may be faster but i have no way of really telling edit: quote:Cache sizing is not based on any hard and fast rule but a reasonable first estimate on the size of cache is 4x the amount of memory in the system. I have 32 gigabytes of RAM and a 40GB cache SSD 
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Is anyone still doing writeups on SSD tech like Anand used to when he was still running the site? He was fantastic at explaining the technology used in SSDs, and 90% of what I know about their workings come from these, but I just realized it's been several years now and I don't know how/if the technology has changed since. Most writeups you can find now go oversimplified (each cell is like a bucket of water!) or super technical into the physics behind it all, I miss the intermediary explanations like he was so good at giving: https://www.anandtech.com/show/2829/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/5067/understanding-tlc-nand
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Red_Fred posted:If I do my own enclosure, can I encrypt the drive? That would be handy I guess. Bitlocker (Windows) will allow you to encrypt removable drives with a simple password scheme. It's pretty handy, because if your machine is secure/encrypted, you can save the password so that you don't have to enter it when you insert that drive again.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:Is anyone still doing writeups on SSD tech like Anand used to when he was still running the site? He was fantastic at explaining the technology used in SSDs, and 90% of what I know about their workings come from these, but I just realized it's been several years now and I don't know how/if the technology has changed since. Most writeups you can find now go oversimplified (each cell is like a bucket of water!) or super technical into the physics behind it all, I miss the intermediary explanations like he was so good at giving: Ara Technica has been my go to site for this stuff for years. ymmv of course.
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