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Just put a ring on one of the jump gate brackets so the space haints get confused and think it's a butthole.
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:I'm with whoever suggested vat cloned human rear end hull insulation. That particular plan was one of mine. I'm glad the nuclear strikes on Earth have brought Martian leadership around! 
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Oct 8, 2017 02:07
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Crazycryodude posted:The Earth crews have also been through far more jumps than the Martian crews. Our dudes take longer to recover after each jump, Earth's dudes will only have it worse with their buggier tech and more jumps. This, definitely. I'm betting that Mars putting strict limits on jump rotations right away had an effect in not letting this happen to us.
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Oct 8, 2017 02:44
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Yeah I'm thinking hard upper limit of.... 6 jumps? That's for your entire career. Yeah, it'll mean super high turnover on crews, but it's better than having someone slip through the cracks and snap on us. Until we can figure out what the gently caress jump sickness is and how to prevent/fix it, we've got to play things incredibly careful.
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Oct 8, 2017 02:49
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah I'm thinking hard upper limit of.... 6 jumps? That's for your entire career. Yeah, it'll mean super high turnover on crews, but it's better than having someone slip through the cracks and snap on us. I wouldn't say for the career but i would say 6 jumps and then 6 -18 months no jumping we need to study how fast it goes away (if ever) and what the effects really are
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Oct 8, 2017 02:52
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If it goes away, then you can start jumping again, yeah. But from the limited sample size we have, it doesn't really seem to, or at least it goes away super slow.
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Oct 8, 2017 02:53
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too be fair it's been what less than or just over a month since we started jumping?
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Oct 8, 2017 03:00
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Yeah, and people are already loving nuking each other. I dread to see what's in the pipeline for a year from now.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:02
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Can someone post a new invite link to the Discord? The one on the first page has expired.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:11
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Looks like we should see about those immigration reforms. Im sure theres gonna be bunch of people looking to get out of earth.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:11
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Spoggerific posted:Can someone post a new invite link to the Discord? The one on the first page has expired.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:16
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Still advocating for my previous suggestion about jumping:OwlFancier posted:To be more coherent I would suggest that we establish an interstellar exploration corps, all personnel who will be undergoing jump travel must be incorporated into this organization, all members of the organization will be briefed on our best understanding of the effects of undergoing jump travel and will understand that they can and will be confined indefinitely if they start to exhibit signs of psychological deterioration as a result of the effects of jump travel. It should have a well funded psychology and biology staff whose job is a: under no circumstances undergo jump travel themselves and b: to study the effects of jump travel on those who do. Personnel who have undergone jump travel can not be permitted to rejoin the general population of humanity until further notice, this may change as we learn more about it, or it may be vindicated, but as it stands we have no idea what this technology does to people. For all we know it could be giving us all space ebola. Need desperately to figure out what it does to people because it seems like we now have reason to add "makes you nuke 10 million people to death on your own capital planet" to the list.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:26
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Yeah I thought it was overkill back when it was proposed but whole poo poo that's like the bare minimum now. How good is brain-scanning technology? Would it be practical to take a super-high resolution MRI or something every time jump crews return to track neurological changes? Hell, can we get a brain scan as we jump? I'm super interested in the neurological angle, if we can see what neurons are firing when maybe we can develop a drug to counteract it.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:31
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 Just in case anyone wondered how things had changed since the map in the first post.
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Oct 8, 2017 03:55
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OwlFancier posted:Still advocating for my previous suggestion about jumping: I'm wondering just how automated an UT DDG is, anyway? Could 1 officer (even a captain) load, arm, target, and fire all 6 tubes by himself without anyone stopping him, and could he then do it again, still with no interference? I have to imagine a large portion of the crew was complicit and the others distracted.
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Oct 8, 2017 04:29
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I'm gonna laugh if it turns out to be neither us, the IC or the aliens; but the Titian Free State.
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Oct 8, 2017 04:31
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Good for them, strike the first blow of the revolution with burning proletarian fury.
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Oct 8, 2017 04:32
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Jack2142 posted:We should probably execute the crew of the Tangora to be safe. Ruuuude. It's not like we even have weapons! Sounds like it's an internal matter. Offer humanitarian assistance. Get our spies seeing if anyone in the civilian space shipping sector wants to defect after Putin siezed their trade fleets. Or did y'all miss the nationalisation of the civilian traders before the nukes hit.
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Oct 8, 2017 04:34
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Veloxyll posted:Ruuuude. It's not like we even have weapons! Nah, when governments nationalize industries the rank & file always get a nice raise
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Oct 8, 2017 04:44
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Crazycryodude posted:If it goes away, then you can start jumping again, yeah. But from the limited sample size we have, it doesn't really seem to, or at least it goes away super slow. Well, the captain of the ship we had space high seas dinner with (who we also think is the one who nuked earth after being recalled) claimed that from their observations at least some part of jump sickness is permanent. And I think we also had an update on our original jump crew had some afflicted people caught conspiring to mutiny the ship? We might have just avoided a similar fate to Earth with a combination of Martian paranoia and our path to Raganui requiring fewer jumps.
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Oct 8, 2017 05:07
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First off, can I get my captain's traits and such? Secondly,  Jesus. Call up Earth, offer them aid, and then form a combined mission into research and treatment of jump psychosis. This cannot be allowed to happen again.
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Oct 8, 2017 08:37
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Yeah, Moscow just got Hiroshima'd. That is all kinds of hosed.
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Oct 8, 2017 10:21
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The thing about humanitarian aid is that I sort of doubt there will be many left alive after explosions that big.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:07
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There'll be plenty in the nearby fallout zones though, Kiev for example is going to have to be evacuated. That's going to require unprecedented resources, to put it mildly.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:16
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250 posts? Must have been something with th---Sweet baby Jesus. First off, complete agreement with this: Rorac posted:Call up Earth, offer them aid, and then form a combined mission into research and treatment of jump psychosis. This cannot be allowed to happen again. Second off: Speaking of the possible rogue UT captain, has anyone actually checked what was on that data stick yet? Can't help but think now would be the time if not; even if it's just insane ramblings, it would at least give us a clue as to what in the buggery just happened.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:42
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Last I knew, the data was being looked into by appropriately suspicious minds. I don't think the results were released.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:57
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Dance Officer posted:The thing about humanitarian aid is that I sort of doubt there will be many left alive after explosions that big. Nah, 100 kilotons in nuke terms isn't that big See what that does to Moscow here. Millions in central Moscow will die, but the surrounding area is fine, especially if it was a airburst instead of a groundburst (airbursts produce alot less radiation since there's not soot cloud kicked up to irradiate)
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Last I knew, the data was being looked into by appropriately suspicious minds. I don't think the results were released. Hmph. Fine as long as those appropriately suspicious minds aren't just in SB and keep it to themselves. Speaking of that branch... Third point: Can someone get Senator Harris, by hook or by crook, on the line and just pin him (preferably with something nice and heavy; I would favour a rivet gun myself) down long enough to make sure this wasn't some half-baked alpha strike against the UT that never got cancelled after the Lunar Accords?
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Oct 8, 2017 13:30
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Maybe we should do some testing how severe the space madness from jumping can get. Maybe set up a ship that can be remote controlled and monitored, strap a bunch of convicts into it and just have it jump back and forth for a while to see what happens. Just make sure the thing doesn't have any nukes, or if it has then only one to remotely detonate in case the "crew" starts talking in tongues and freeing themselves with inhuman strength or something like that. How can we know how severe this madness can get without some extremely morally questionable science to find out?
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Oct 8, 2017 14:29
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The datastick the UT commodore gave us was poorly sanitized personnel records and some notes on what the UT knew/thought about jump sickness last we heard. It's how we deduced that they've explored probably around 3 systems, and that their crews are getting hit hard by jump sickness.
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Coincidentally, there were mass demonstrations against Putin going on yesterday as a birthday present to him.
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Nevets posted:I'm wondering just how automated an UT DDG is, anyway? Could 1 officer (even a captain) load, arm, target, and fire all 6 tubes by himself without anyone stopping him, and could he then do it again, still with no interference? I have to imagine a large portion of the crew was complicit and the others distracted. I mean, given the state of the crew, is it that difficult to imagine they were sufficiently hosed up by the jump effects that he could manage to pull enough of a coup to do it?
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 It is midnight on the 25th of June 2052.  Earth remains in shock, the state media is locked down and tightly controlled but news spreads freely across the comnet and the world tries to grapple with the enormity of the disaster they are facing. Not since the Ross ice collapse has Terra faced such a tremendous loss of life and humanitarian disaster. Information is scarce with no immediate cause identified and the State says nothing. What is apparent however is the sheer scale of the attacks, in this modern age with everything networked and camera equipped the world's screens fill with the horror of nuclear war. Video footage emerges of buildings blowing away like leaves in the breeze, whole streets of pedestrians turned to ash and shadows on the ground before the footage cuts off. Even the most hardened of warhawks is given pause and the world holds its breath bracing for more to come. Most of Eastern Europe is dark, the EM pulses having destroyed everything electronic and disabled most advanced technology. Almost all transportation is disabled from the EM pulses of the weapons and eighty million people are without power so in scenes not seen in europe for over a hundred years huge refugee columns stretch to the horizon as people flee west trying vainly to escape the fallout plumes even now rising from the ruins of the targeted cities.  Satellites track the fallout as it disperses. Hundreds of thousands of people are unknowingly already dead as they absorb lethal amounts of radiation in vain attempts to flee and word from first response units landing in Moscow indicates over a hundred thousand people may be entombed alive in the collapsed metro system.  All of Europe braces as the prevailing winds carry the fallout west, nearly four hundred million people will be exposed to some level of fallout and the Terran bureaucracy siezes as it tries to implement doomsday plans nobody ever thought would have to be employed. Up to ten million people are thought to be dead or badly injured in what is quite simply the worst single peacetime humanitarian disaster in recorded history and the whole Solar system grapples with a single question. Why? --------------------------------------------------------------  SENATE HOURLY SITUATION REPORT; 2359hrs 25 June 2052 Latest updates:
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So, uh, what're the odds that Vlad is a rapidly cooling cloud of ashes right now? That could be very bad (for Earth at least, a power struggle would be great for Mars).
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So, it was them nuking their own families then? That's hosed up. Do we think Putin died at least? That would be something. I'd have to imagine if he didn't die he will have to make a public appearance asap lest his rivals try to move into the power vacuum. Also are we sure we should send the Terrans money? Food, blankets, medicine ect, sure. But I'd be pretty leery of transferring liquid currency in the current situation. Odds are we'd just be bankrolling some bastard exploiting the situation in one way or another.
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Pharnakes posted:So, it was them nuking their own families then? That's hosed up. Why would we send them money? There are only four places they could buy stuff from -- us (we're already sending aid), Titan (they'll probably send some too), the IC (gently caress the IC) or themselves (why would they, when they can nationalise the company until the state of emergency ends?)
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Friend Commuter posted:(why would they, when they can nationalise the company until the state of emergency ends?) Putin did 6/25
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Friend Commuter posted:Why would we send them money? There are only four places they could buy stuff from -- us (we're already sending aid), Titan (they'll probably send some too), the IC (gently caress the IC) or themselves (why would they, when they can nationalise the company until the state of emergency ends?) We don't send them the money, we give it to Terran refugees once they arrive on Mars so they can buy food, etc. until they land a job working in the shipyards.
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Nevets posted:We don't send them the money, we give it to Terran refugees once they arrive on Mars so they can buy food, etc. until they land a job working in the shipyards. Well, yes, any polity that would let Crazy "One-Dude Internationale" Cryo command a warship probably has a generous social safety net.
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